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Post by Block 22 on Sept 1, 2018 18:39:19 GMT
Does anybody know the answer to the million dollar question?
Yes, he had a poor start to the season but why on earth is this guy playing in the under 23’s? Does anyone have a good explanation for it? Or some reasoning?
He was one of our better and more consistent performers for the last 6 months of last season.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 1, 2018 18:43:48 GMT
Can only be that he doesn't rate him defensively. He's basically said as much.
No-one had right-back as a priority, but he leapt on it straight away, and used what appeared to be a valuable loan spot (in the end, it wasn't because bafflingly we didn't even bother getting 5 in)
And he's not going to regularly get on the bench because Edwards is the only club-developed player he apparently trusts to sit on the bench, and Souttar won't get on because one of Shawcross/Williams/BMI will always be there if fit.
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Post by neddy on Sept 1, 2018 18:45:24 GMT
Can only be that he doesn't rate him defensively. He's basically said as much. No-one had right-back as a priority, but he leapt on it straight away, and used what appeared to be a valuable loan spot (in the end, it wasn't because bafflingly we didn't even bother getting 5 in) And he's not going to regularly get on the bench because Edwards is the only club-developed player he apparently trusts to sit on the bench, and Souttar won't get on because one of Shawcross/Williams/BMI will always be there if fit. Awful isn’t it!
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Post by smatty88 on Sept 1, 2018 18:46:41 GMT
He should have been on the bench today ahead of Fletcher.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 1, 2018 19:18:51 GMT
Cuco was culpable for both goals to some degree so I'm expecting Bauer to come in and cuco to enjoy a spell with the u23's.
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Post by lee1982 on Sept 1, 2018 19:24:34 GMT
If he doesnt rate him defensively then surely its his job to coach that side of his game. I thought Martina looked good against Hull but was his signing a waste? In the end we didnt use all of our quota of loans but imagine if we’d got a left back in and another winger with pace! That would have improved is no end!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 19:25:09 GMT
Bonkers what’s happened to him in the space of three weeks.....
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Post by wuzza on Sept 1, 2018 19:26:59 GMT
Bonkers what’s happened to him in the space of three weeks..... But indicative of where the club is ...... all over the place.
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Post by smallthorner on Sept 1, 2018 19:32:50 GMT
He really doesn't like him does he.
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Post by cousindupree on Sept 1, 2018 19:39:10 GMT
He did get a mention when talking about wide options he said Moritz can play there, so he has the potential to cover a couple of positions but not going to happen from playing in the under 23's. The fletcher on the bench was baffling as we already had a CDM on the bench in Woods, why have 2? One of the increasingly bizarre decisions the manager is making.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 19:46:15 GMT
Cuco was culpable for both goals to some degree so I'm expecting Bauer to come in and cuco to enjoy a spell with the u23's. Tom Edwards has done no worse out of all three, yet has been banished to god knows where. He is a youth product that is begging to be developed, coached and improved. The very bread and butter of every football club. The one thing you are guaranteed with Edwards is a quality final ball as he is without doubt, the best crosser at the club. Cuco today didn't cross the halfway line!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 21:32:04 GMT
You know what really annoyed me...when Rowett was fawning over McLean for getting back when Allen and Etebo messed up that short corner against Hull....Bauer did the same against Leeds and he did it a lot for us last season.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 1, 2018 22:00:06 GMT
He had one bad game and was dropped. The likes of Ryan, Eric and Allen can play badly every week and keep their place. He should be starting.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 3, 2018 11:35:51 GMT
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Sept 3, 2018 11:51:07 GMT
Rather disgraceful petty politics from Rowett here.
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 3, 2018 11:55:38 GMT
Quite the fall from grace. Better than this Rowett, come on.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 12:14:52 GMT
Another 'strike' for Gary. They're mounting up.
Sort it out, you idiot.
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Post by cousindupree on Sept 3, 2018 12:26:51 GMT
Wow it is some fall from grace. He only joined in January but he hit the ground running and was arguably our best performer and now he is consigned to the U23's with the likes of Charlie Adam. Rowett's man management techniques seem to be as baffling as his tactics. He's openly criticised Bauer's defensive capability, but I have to say I wasn't overly impressed with Martina defensively.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 12:30:43 GMT
He’s our best right back ffs.
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Post by enuntio on Sept 3, 2018 12:33:36 GMT
Just play him
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Post by dirtygary69 on Sept 3, 2018 12:37:03 GMT
Humiliating. Why can't we just have a normal club with a manager who doesn't fall out with or alienate certain players?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 3, 2018 12:47:09 GMT
I don't think Bauer is as good as many make out but he's certainly no worse the rest of them who seem to be getting extended runs in the team.
It is a ludicrous situation but until someone actually comes out to tell it how it is, we'll never truly know what has been going on at our club over the last 12/18 months.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 3, 2018 12:47:28 GMT
He’s our best right back ffs. He hasn't shown it, I'm not trying to defend Rowett on everything but he's seen little of him and so far he's been pretty shit, playing him with the under 23's seems a bit much mind but maybe he thinks he can learn the defensive side while playing actual games, if thats the case it can only be a positive that he's trying to give him a chance to improve rather than just casting him aside completely. I know what I said is complete conjecture but it would make sense to me.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 3, 2018 12:50:41 GMT
He’s our best right back ffs. He hasn't shown it, I'm not trying to defend Rowett on everything but he's seen little of him and so far he's been pretty shit, playing him with the under 23's seems a bit much mind but maybe he thinks he can learn the defensive side while playing actual games, if thats the case it can only be a positive that he's trying to give him a chance to improve rather than just casting him aside completely. I know what I said is complete conjecture but it would make sense to me. Or maybe the player has asked to play in the games? Adam and Muniesa certainly did last season.
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Post by stokeykez on Sept 3, 2018 13:21:51 GMT
Another manager who likes to fall out with players. Will we ever have a harmonious manager who treats players like adults and not children.
Do not like rowett and his ego, as bad as leslie, every single post match interview he has come across as a condescending arrogant tit
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 13:25:51 GMT
Can only be that he doesn't rate him defensively. He's basically said as much. No-one had right-back as a priority, but he leapt on it straight away, and used what appeared to be a valuable loan spot (in the end, it wasn't because bafflingly we didn't even bother getting 5 in) And he's not going to regularly get on the bench because Edwards is the only club-developed player he apparently trusts to sit on the bench, and Souttar won't get on because one of Shawcross/Williams/BMI will always be there if fit. Awful isn’t it! Not really. He definitely needs to work on the defensive aspects of his game, which has to be essentiel to the position he is seen to working in. Although he has remarkable pace for a Stoke player, it's simply not enough for a fullback to be good at running up the pitch and throw a decent length.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 13:33:52 GMT
Not really. He definitely needs to work on the defensive aspects of his game, which has to be essentiel to the position he is seen to working in. Although he has remarkable pace for a Stoke player, it's simply not enough for a fullback to be good at running up the pitch and throw a decent length. No but better to be good at running up the pitch and throwing at a decent length than poor defensively, giving everyone a heart attack when they run up the pitch because we know they won’t get back and unable to find anyone from a throw in other McLean like Pieters...
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 3, 2018 13:36:10 GMT
Another manager who likes to fall out with players. Will we ever have a harmonious manager who treats players like adults and not children. Do not like rowett and his ego, as bad as leslie, every single post match interview he has come across as a condescending arrogant tit Who said hes fallen out with him?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 13:37:37 GMT
You know what really annoyed me...when Rowett was fawning over McLean for getting back when Allen and Etebo messed up that short corner against Hull....Bauer did the same against Leeds and he did it a lot for us last season. Rowett wants his team to play for Stoke and he won't rest until he has 11 Rowetts playing for him. He's wise enough not to tamper with a club legend like Shawcross (although many wish he would!) or with an international star like Butland, but the rest of the team will be replaced within the next two transfer windows. He's seemingly willing to humour Pieters, but I'll very surprised if Pieters won't be on his way at the end of the season, unless Rowett has an eye for the wife... Everytime he says positives about the team - which so far isn't often - it's one of his signings that he singles out for praise. So in other words Bauer wouldn't have a place in Rowett's team, even should he learn to defend at an acceptable level.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 13:39:57 GMT
Not really. He definitely needs to work on the defensive aspects of his game, which has to be essentiel to the position he is seen to working in. Although he has remarkable pace for a Stoke player, it's simply not enough for a fullback to be good at running up the pitch and throw a decent length. No but better to be good at running up the pitch and throwing at a decent length than poor defensively, giving everyone a heart attack when they run up the pitch because we know they won’t get back and unable to find anyone from a throw in other McLean like Pieters... At the moment Pieters is untouchable. There's no direct replacement and he is our current topscorer. Although I would drop him pronto if I was the boss.
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