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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 13:44:04 GMT
No but better to be good at running up the pitch and throwing at a decent length than poor defensively, giving everyone a heart attack when they run up the pitch because we know they won’t get back and unable to find anyone from a throw in other McLean like Pieters... At the moment Pieters is untouchable. There's no direct replacement and he is our current topscorer. Although I would drop him pronto if I was the boss. Yes at least there are some benefits to him always being out position 😂🤣
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Sept 3, 2018 13:58:01 GMT
The weird thing is about Bauer is that he RUNS ABOUT A LOT.
That seems to be the main criteria for Rowett when picking players - McClean, Ince, Allen, Afobe do a lot of running.
Dropping his for defensive abilities is just a cute excuse, when it is clearly about politics between him and Scholes.
Bauer is one player that has the physical abilities required for the Championship. Now he is dumped with the U23's - Rowett is just making too many mistakes
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 3, 2018 14:01:55 GMT
The weird thing is about Bauer is that he RUNS ABOUT A LOT. That seems to be the main criteria for Rowett when picking players - McClean, Ince, Allen, Afobe do a lot of running. Dropping his for defensive abilities is just a cute excuse, when it is clearly about politics between him and Scholes. Bauer is one player that has the physical abilities required for the Championship. Now he is dumped with the U23's - Rowett is just making too many mistakes I don't think it is a cute excuse. I think it may really be as simple as he's not Rowett's kind of full back.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Sept 3, 2018 14:15:28 GMT
It makes a complete mockery of the Pizza boys decision to give him a new contract.
Even so I don’t think he’s as good as other suggest he is. I know we didn’t have the best squad last season but Lambert couldn’t have really trusted him defensively because he barely played him there and instead preferred the past it Johnson.
Bauer can run but that’s about it, his defensive positioning is very suspect and his attacking ability isn’t up to much either.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 3, 2018 15:07:55 GMT
A choice between Martina, Bauer and Pieters should be very simple as only one of them can deliver a decent cross, got most pace and has most potential. Bauer is miles ahead compared to the other two, must be picked soon!
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Post by smatty88 on Sept 3, 2018 15:32:56 GMT
It makes a complete mockery of the Pizza boys decision to give him a new contract. Even so I don’t think he’s as good as other suggest he is. I know we didn’t have the best squad last season but Lambert couldn’t have really trusted him defensively because he barely played him there and instead preferred the past it Johnson. Bauer can run but that’s about it, his defensive positioning is very suspect and his attacking ability isn’t up to much either. Bauer was played on the wing because of his pace, a shortage of wide options and the fact we had other right backs available. v Palace, Liverpool & Burnley (he played wide left with Sobhi on the bench) v West Ham, Spurs & Arsenal (he played wide right with Shaq as a 10 and no wingers on the bench) In the 8 games he played as right back we only lost 3 of them and those were against Man City (expected), Man Utd (expected) and Bournemouth.
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Post by TexasPotter on Sept 3, 2018 15:36:31 GMT
Rowetts crazy selection and politics freezing out players will be the end of him here.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 3, 2018 15:40:42 GMT
Can only be that he doesn't rate him defensively. He's basically said as much. No-one had right-back as a priority, but he leapt on it straight away, and used what appeared to be a valuable loan spot (in the end, it wasn't because bafflingly we didn't even bother getting 5 in) And he's not going to regularly get on the bench because Edwards is the only club-developed player he apparently trusts to sit on the bench, and Souttar won't get on because one of Shawcross/Williams/BMI will always be there if fit. Its only a matter of time until he plays right wing or we try 532 with wingbacks
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Post by shimmer on Sept 3, 2018 15:52:29 GMT
Another one we will give away at this rate.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 16:29:44 GMT
Rowetts crazy selection and politics freezing out players will be the end of him here. In time it might. But if it's down to the above, it could take a long, long time. Hughes was also at odds with decisions made, but he stayed a long time. But the Stoke upper hierachy don't have a habit of interfering with the manager's selections, let alone sack him because of that. I'm hoping it will be his poor results that will be his undoing, but it's going to take a lot more than just a few losses, before we will see action from the top.
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Post by jarhead on Sept 3, 2018 18:59:15 GMT
This is Carl Hoefkens part two this is.
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Post by metalhead on Sept 3, 2018 23:19:29 GMT
This is Carl Hoefkens part two this is. Sorry, but no it isn't. Not even comparable in fact.... unless I'm missing your point?
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Post by jarhead on Sept 4, 2018 9:09:55 GMT
This is Carl Hoefkens part two this is. Sorry, but no it isn't. Not even comparable in fact.... unless I'm missing your point? It’s the same case of ‘play anyone’ instead of the best option at the club. I mean Tom Edwards before Bauer! Give me strength, Martina not to sure but is he right back ? Rowett is putting himself in pickles that he doesn’t need to. It’s only going end up one way.
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Post by thebet365 on Sept 4, 2018 9:19:41 GMT
Sorry, but no it isn't. Not even comparable in fact.... unless I'm missing your point? It’s the same case of ‘play anyone’ instead of the best option at the club. I mean Tom Edwards before Bauer! Give me strength, Martina not to sure but is he right back ? Rowett is putting himself in pickles that he doesn’t need to. It’s only going end up one way. Martina is a right back and was loaned in to replace Bauer. For whatever reason Rowett obviously just doesn't rate Bauer. I'm hoping at the very least he's considering using Bauer at home against the lesser teams to give us a more attacking game, then bring Martina in for the more defensive minded games. I'd have Bauer over Martina by the way but it's blatantly obvious Rowett see's it the other way around.
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Post by sharonbeech21 on Sept 4, 2018 9:23:27 GMT
How Rowett can treat Bauer like this is beyond belief. He is the best right back at the club and should be in the squad. Rowett hasnt got a clue. He simply doesnt like Bauer but you would think he would play our best players for the sake of the team and the fans who want to watch our best players
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Post by metalhead on Sept 4, 2018 9:46:44 GMT
Sorry, but no it isn't. Not even comparable in fact.... unless I'm missing your point? It’s the same case of ‘play anyone’ instead of the best option at the club. I mean Tom Edwards before Bauer! Give me strength, Martina not to sure but is he right back ? Rowett is putting himself in pickles that he doesn’t need to. It’s only going end up one way. Well, slightly comparable then but hardly clear cut with Hoefkens whereas in this case, Bauer should/must be playing. He's miles ahead of Edwards and while Martina has started well, it doesn't explain Bauers absence. Ah well, enjoy the circus.
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Post by jarhead on Sept 4, 2018 10:10:16 GMT
Thanks
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Post by trotter1980 on Sept 4, 2018 11:19:46 GMT
Cuco was culpable for both goals to some degree so I'm expecting Bauer to come in and cuco to enjoy a spell with the u23's. i was at the game Saturday. how was cuco culpable for the 2nd goal? surely Butland being beat at the near post is culpable? cuco looks far more solid than Bauer in defence. I do like Bauer going forward and would use him if we go 3-5-2
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Post by trotter1980 on Sept 4, 2018 11:33:13 GMT
A choice between Martina, Bauer and Pieters should be very simple as only one of them can deliver a decent cross, got most pace and has most potential. Bauer is miles ahead compared to the other two, must be picked soon! think I would look at totally different, as a defender the first question would be can he defend and Bauer is suspect at best. going forward he shows promise so I would look at right mid instead.
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Post by unknown182 on Sept 4, 2018 12:09:43 GMT
Even if he doesn't rate him defensively for RB he's still a better option for RW than Diouf. The fact he's not even making the bench says there is more to it than that.
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Post by thebet365 on Sept 4, 2018 12:17:30 GMT
Even if he doesn't rate him defensively for RB he's still a better option for RW than Diouf. The fact he's not even making the bench says there is more to it than that. He hasn't scored a goal in his career, that's not someone you want playing RW reguarly.
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Post by Godo on Sept 4, 2018 12:50:20 GMT
What you are expecting a rational explanation from the manager who picked that team, played those tactics and made those substitutions on Saturday??
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 4, 2018 13:54:26 GMT
Cuco was culpable for both goals to some degree so I'm expecting Bauer to come in and cuco to enjoy a spell with the u23's. i was at the game Saturday. how was cuco culpable for the 2nd goal? surely Butland being beat at the near post is culpable? cuco looks far more solid than Bauer in defence. I do like Bauer going forward and would use him if we go 3-5-2 I was at the game also. Jack should have saved the 2nd goal without question. Had cuco done his job properly in the 1st place Jack wouldn't have had a save to make at all...hence I wrote that cuco was culpable or partly culpable for both goals...obviously because Jack was also culpable for the 2nd goal.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 14:03:11 GMT
Cuco's Rowett's signing, Bauer is not. Rowett wants players he signed in the team, so Cuco plays, Bauer does not-
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Post by cousindupree on Sept 4, 2018 14:34:33 GMT
If he is playing with the kiddies tonight I guess that means he isn't in the Austrian squad for their upcoming friendly? If so that's a bit of a surprise given that he has been in the squad for the last half dozen games.
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Post by VolvicStokie on Sept 4, 2018 15:28:48 GMT
It's wank as Bauer is Premier league quality, he's probably in the top bracket of earners at the club as he signed his new deal to get him off the relegation clause, but this is solely down to politics.
Scholes told Rowett to play Bauer. Bauer was then totally dropped.
I'd hazard an educated guess that Rowett is simply proving a point that HE IS THE Manager and nobody else picks the team regardless of how much you earn or who gave who a new contract.
My take on it is, Scholes has so much power and has his feet under Coates table, that he can get away with shit like that.
Rowett won't have it, and hopefully continues his clear dislike for Scholes and Co.
Yes we've had a bad start but I'm convinced we'll get going. With or without Bauer!
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Post by sutekh on Sept 4, 2018 15:44:46 GMT
The way that Bauer and Bojan have been treated is nothing short of criminal. Rowett needs fucking off now or league 1 beckons with this clown in charge.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 4, 2018 16:49:33 GMT
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 4, 2018 16:52:42 GMT
It's wank as Bauer is Premier league quality, he's probably in the top bracket of earners at the club as he signed his new deal to get him off the relegation clause, but this is solely down to politics. Scholes told Rowett to play Bauer. Bauer was then totally dropped. I'd hazard an educated guess that Rowett is simply proving a point that HE IS THE Manager and nobody else picks the team regardless of how much you earn or who gave who a new contract. My take on it is, Scholes has so much power and has his feet under Coates table, that he can get away with shit like that. Rowett won't have it, and hopefully continues his clear dislike for Scholes and Co. Yes we've had a bad start but I'm convinced we'll get going. With or without Bauer! Alternatively... Rowett is a conservative, defensive minded manager. Bauer is a very attacking full back. Rowett doesn't trust very attacking full backs. Bauer is therefore considered surplus to his plans...
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 4, 2018 16:52:59 GMT
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