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Post by redwhite on Aug 31, 2018 11:32:34 GMT
He had to go but I reckon he would’ve done a better job than Lambert.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 31, 2018 11:50:17 GMT
Just about to post this mate What a deluded fool He's one million percent correct.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Aug 31, 2018 11:58:05 GMT
To be honest i think it's all irrelevant anyway. If he had kept us up, chances are he'd have been kept on, given sod all in the transfer window and we'd be down the bottom of the Prem for the season again.
It would have just papered over the very serious cracks we had and Peter would be banging on with his "What's all the fuss about? We're in the Prem and all you fans should just be content with that and forget about aspiring to anything else". At least having someone new now means we can actually start to re-build.
For those reasons alone i'm glad he went.
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Post by 3putts on Aug 31, 2018 12:05:51 GMT
Come and show your face at the next home game and have a chat if you actually attend games🤔 Omg in scared now stokes number 1 fan is offering me out
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 31, 2018 12:06:50 GMT
To be honest i think it's all irrelevant anyway. If he had kept us up, chances are he'd have been kept on, given sod all in the transfer window and we'd be down the bottom of the Prem for the season again. It would have just papered over the very serious cracks we had and Peter would be banging on with his "What's all the fuss about? We're in the Prem and all you fans should just be content with that and forget about aspiring to anything else". At least having someone new now means we can actually start to re-build. For those reasons alone i'm glad he went. Spot on.
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Post by kjpt140v on Aug 31, 2018 12:07:06 GMT
I believe we would have stayed up. The end of the season should have been the time to sort things out.
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Post by nonameface on Aug 31, 2018 12:10:15 GMT
He would definitely have kept us up if he could have got the crowd back onside, without them he was likely to keep us up, but it would have been tough.
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Post by 3putts on Aug 31, 2018 12:15:38 GMT
we were not in the relegation zone when he left We absolutely were. We weren't in the bottom three after his last league match against Newcastle on New Year's Day, but dropped into it after West Ham drew at Tottenham a couple of days before the Coventry match. Cannot be arsed to do the research so will go with your version
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 31, 2018 12:17:53 GMT
We absolutely were. We weren't in the bottom three after his last league match against Newcastle on New Year's Day, but dropped into it after West Ham drew at Tottenham a couple of days before the Coventry match. Cannot be arsed to do the research so will go with your version Here you go boss. Took 10 seconds. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42332958
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Post by kjpt140v on Aug 31, 2018 12:18:38 GMT
How can anyone seriously tell me that Hughes would have kept us up🙄🤔The players had thrown the towel in under his management as results showed us in the weeks leading up to his sacking.Yes we beat WBA and got a point at Huddersfield but the West Ham,Tottenham,Chelsea,Newcastle and Coventry games told us all that under the charlatan we were going down. The man ruined QPR(despite what certain posters say on here),ourselves and he’ll do the same to Southampton if they let him imo.I just hope we get to play one of his teams at the Bet365 in the future so the majority of our fans can let him know how they feel about him. You can't just casually scrub the only 3 consecutive top half, top division finishes in the history of the football club from the annals of history. 4 more points would have kept us up. That's 2 of the draws we got since January converted to wins. Say Charlie's penalty miss at the death v Brighton and Andy Carol's injury time leveler at WHU. It's fine margins. We'll never know, but it was certainly possible, all we do know for sure is that his replacement was not quite able to do it. Ye God’s man how old are you? Don’t you know about the 70s or the near league win in the ‘47 season?
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Post by SCFC92 on Aug 31, 2018 12:21:02 GMT
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Aug 31, 2018 12:21:55 GMT
I think those of you who are saying he would have "definitely" kept us up are forgetting just how fucking shite it was under him. There was no sign at all that he was capable or willing to do anything about our absolute dire straits.
We "might" have scored enough to turn the odd draw into a win, which, looking retrospectively at the table would have saved us; but the odds are just as likely that the odd draw could have turned into us being thumped.
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Post by SCFC92 on Aug 31, 2018 12:25:26 GMT
He is a Class A Bellend.
Thanks for the "consecutive top half finishes" but your decisions in the final 18 months of your tenure here have hamstrung the club into relegation and a poor start to the season so far. Your idiotic, brainless signings, you know, the ones who took selfies on our relegation day have poisoned my club.
Fuck off with your opinions, I'm glad you pissed off, if it took us to go down for you to be gone from my club I will take it on the chin!
You incompetent arrogant rat!
He comes to the Bet365 any day soon he will get it both barrels with brass knobs on from me!
Prick!
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 31, 2018 12:30:01 GMT
A pensioners erection would have stayed up longer than us if we kept this utter cretin in charge.
Arrogant, dour, moon faced cunt.
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Post by musik on Aug 31, 2018 12:39:56 GMT
Hypotetically, if he had kept us up - should he have been our manager this season?
I think not. MH hadn't made a LOT of changes as we have seen now; players IN, players OUT ...
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Post by kustokie on Aug 31, 2018 12:41:32 GMT
The most likely explanation is Coates is a big part of the problem (see below). Maybe he’s the proverbial Emperor with no clothes.
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Post by musik on Aug 31, 2018 12:42:50 GMT
A pensioners erection would have stayed up longer than us if we kept this utter cretin in charge Medical fact: a pensioners erection usually stays up longer than it's younger counterpart, but has more problems to become erected.
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Post by kustokie on Aug 31, 2018 12:44:10 GMT
He may have kept us up, he may not have. Nobody knows and not even Hughes himself What nobody can deny though was the complete Trainwreck that he created, poor incoming transfers such as Wimmer, Imbula, Berahino, Choupo-Moting and Jese with only a spattering of good signings such as Allen and Arnie. ill discipline was ride and training methods questioned Whether he likes it or not, he put himself into a position where the board had no choice and for that Hughes was to blame I am not a big Hughes fan. However, that’s a bit over the top. He also brought in Shaq and Bojan and pre-Rochdale we were playing some of the best football in a couple of decades.
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Post by kustokie on Aug 31, 2018 12:50:14 GMT
That’s for reminding me (shudder, shudder), It took three straws to break the camel’s back. Losses to Chelsea, Newcastle and Coventry. He was deadman walking after the Newcastle match.
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Post by Gods on Aug 31, 2018 12:53:44 GMT
And I should add full marks to the OP for not calling this thread Hughes ‘I would of kept Stoke up'
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Post by 3putts on Aug 31, 2018 13:01:17 GMT
the thing is I agree that we had become a very poor team and mh was probably on the verge of the sack after he played a game to lose[Chelsea] and that backfired with Newcastle beating us. but for all his faults I witnessed some of the best football I have ever seen stoke city play most notably the home victories over man utd and man city some of the football we played in those games was sublime.but that is all history now. I said it at the time and will repeat it now "sacking managers mid term just does not work for us" and only leads to relegation other clubs get a bounce and suddenly start playing like real madrid but not us we go backwards.
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Post by stokiegav on Aug 31, 2018 13:20:59 GMT
I think those of you who are saying he would have "definitely" kept us up are forgetting just how fucking shite it was under him. There was no sign at all that he was capable or willing to do anything about our absolute dire straits. We "might" have scored enough to turn the odd draw into a win, which, looking retrospectively at the table would have saved us; but the odds are just as likely that the odd draw could have turned into us being thumped. The problem with this is that Mark Hughes has as always started badly and got better as the season progressed - so really it's more than likely he would have got this extra wins. Indeed I remember a respected poster ( possibly Paul spwncer) continually banging that drum when Hughes didn't get sacked in the summer (absolutely when he should have gone for me). Was a terrible decision by the board and the fact that it was almost in the same week we got wing backs - which Hughes had clearly being crying out for beggars belief. And almost as bad as then employing a manager who had no intention of using wing backs
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Post by shimmer on Aug 31, 2018 13:24:31 GMT
I think the fact he is even stipulating this states a lack of thought.
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Aug 31, 2018 13:38:25 GMT
As a club, we couldn't have handled it any worse.
Sacked him at the most ridiculous point in the season, wasted a transfer window, couldn't hire anyone good and ended up with an absolute baboon of a football manager.
It's all hindsight though. Maybe he would have kept us up, maybe he wouldn't.
If you put a gun to my head though, I reckon he would have done it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2018 13:44:58 GMT
Fuck off and die Hughes, you massive c%$t
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Post by lloydcolesguitar on Aug 31, 2018 13:54:35 GMT
Piss off Hughes and dont even talk about OUR club you sheep SxxxxxG deluded cock wipe. I suggest, without any respect, you concentrate on your latest clusterfxxk managerial role.
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 31, 2018 14:07:42 GMT
Hughes Schmooz
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Post by pottersrule on Aug 31, 2018 14:11:12 GMT
How can anyone seriously tell me that Hughes would have kept us up🙄🤔The players had thrown the towel in under his management as results showed us in the weeks leading up to his sacking.Yes we beat WBA and got a point at Huddersfield but the West Ham,Tottenham,Chelsea,Newcastle and Coventry games told us all that under the charlatan we were going down. The man ruined QPR(despite what certain posters say on here),ourselves and he’ll do the same to Southampton if they let him imo.I just hope we get to play one of his teams at the Bet365 in the future so the majority of our fans can let him know how they feel about him. Spot on mate,the fact that the team was so unfit that they were red lining by half time tells you all you need to know about this frauds tenure.
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Post by tony1234 on Aug 31, 2018 14:14:37 GMT
As a club, we couldn't have handled it any worse. Sacked him at the most ridiculous point in the season, wasted a transfer window, couldn't hire anyone good and ended up with an absolute baboon of a football manager. It's all hindsight though. Maybe he would have kept us up, maybe he wouldn't. If you put a gun to my head though, I reckon he would have done it. I wondered at the time whether the timing was a deliberate ploy to avoid spending as much as we needed to in the TW. Any wombat saw we indeed needed an 'N'Diaye", but also needed a striker (and probably some pace in the forward line too) - we were at least 30m light of investment. Thankfully, after that nasty Mr O'Neill told them of the fact, the board found Paul, who was far more helpful and positive, by agreeing with Coates (&Cartwright?) that our players were good enough. Unfortunately, we run out of time.... shucks..... never mind.... we'll spend 40m in the Championship instead.
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Post by pottersrule on Aug 31, 2018 14:16:35 GMT
I believe we would have stayed up. The end of the season should have been the time to sort things out. What I witnessed at the Ricoh arena took away any belief that he was capable of keeping us up.Pathetic doesn't begin to describe our performance there, and for that he was rightly nailed to the cross imo.
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