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Post by Scrotnig on Aug 10, 2018 11:42:46 GMT
I'd argue that happy clapping fools like yourself do more harm than people who are genuinely concerned about the club and the direction it has gone in the last few years. You're Coates and Scholes' dream supporter. This ...
I have no interest in going over old ground about whether Paul Lambert is or is not , a good manager .
But he was definitely a top footballer , he marked zinedine zidane out of the game v juventus in a European cup final , and set up the opening goal, and you don't do that by being a muppet
According to PL when he arrived , the players were unfit , and the attitude of several , was beyond poor and outright unprofessional .
I believe him . I don't think he is liar , I think he spoke the truth .
Clearly that is a poor state of affairs , and those responsible deserve criticism
Good luck to GR , in sorting out the mess .
I agree. Although Lambert clearly did fail in the task he took on, he can't be blamed for the most part, just as Rowett can't be blamed for the fact that we're still just as bad. There is a serious malaise at the club. I don't even have any idea how you fix it now, given that we cannot shift our 'deadwood' and the club still thinks Scholes and Cartwright are the answer. If those two are the answer, I don't want to know the question.
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Post by Do it for dobing on Aug 10, 2018 11:48:39 GMT
We have played one game only give it 10games
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Post by Scrotnig on Aug 10, 2018 12:03:54 GMT
We have played one game only give it 10games What about the 38 games last season which were as bad or worse?
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 10, 2018 12:24:54 GMT
The Oatcake isn’t going to be published anymore? How come? All good things come to an end! That’s very sad to hear. I’d actually find that just about as bad as relegation. Fingers crossed it won’t happen.
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Post by soulsurvivor on Aug 10, 2018 12:33:02 GMT
If you take on a role in a management situation, the wise men make some easy fixes but watch listen and make slow changes and build a strategy.
Very few get it right straight away such as Sunday but eventually given time and a few hiccups it will be ok. Have some faith and get positive and real!
Come on Stoke!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 10, 2018 13:37:25 GMT
If you take on a role in a management situation, the wise men make some easy fixes but watch listen and make slow changes and build a strategy. Very few get it right straight away such as Sunday but eventually given time and a few hiccups it will be ok. Have some faith and get positive and real! Come on Stoke! Not many are actually questioning the manager though are they? It's questioning the same players that got us in this mess on the whole.
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Post by madmickthe3rd on Aug 10, 2018 13:49:08 GMT
Hey we surrendered to a very average Coventry team last season.
We can easily lose to any of the teams in this division!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 10, 2018 13:50:47 GMT
Hey we surrendered to a very average Coventry team last season. We can easily lose to any of the teams in this division! We can but that's not a defence of anything is it? Apologies if you didn't mean it like that but for me that's why it's so frustrating.
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Post by 1977delta on Aug 10, 2018 15:37:00 GMT
A problem with discussions on here is that it gets so polarised. If you challenge the negativity some then brand you a 'happy clapper', which is an attempt to dismiss your position completely. It is possible to criticise the extent of some of the negativity on here ,while at the same time having some disappointment and frustration yourself in how things are going but ALSO seeing some positive. You've created a thread called "cessplt". Good way of trying to change that! Hmmmm.........thats a fair point !
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Post by colnepotter on Aug 10, 2018 17:54:11 GMT
Perhaps you should come into Stoke town on Saturday and meet some of us ‘hilarious’ fans. We would all be very pleased to see you in the Staff, Wheatsheaf, B & B etc. Run your theories past us. You will be carried shoulder high through the streets...... In reality of course you would just get your head stuffed down the bog where shit belongs! Have a nice day and don’t forget your appointment at the Job Centre. Ooh good, threats and intimidation, that'll sort it. Silence all criticism and pretend everything's sweetness and light. For the record I've been watching Stoke since 1982 and I don't need lecturing on how I have to feel about the team. Job Centre busy was it. Come on down tomorrow.....or don’t you go
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Post by Do it for dobing on Aug 10, 2018 22:40:39 GMT
We have played one game only give it 10games What about the 38 games last season which were as bad or worse? New manager and 7 new players give him a chance like a minimum of 10 games to organize things
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Post by Parkhall Wanderer on Aug 10, 2018 23:50:42 GMT
Perhaps you should come into Stoke town on Saturday and meet some of us ‘hilarious’ fans. We would all be very pleased to see you in the Staff, Wheatsheaf, B & B etc. Run your theories past us. You will be carried shoulder high through the streets...... In reality of course you would just get your head stuffed down the bog where shit belongs! Have a nice day and don’t forget your appointment at the Job Centre. Ooh good, threats and intimidation, that'll sort it. Silence all criticism and pretend everything's sweetness and light. For the record I've been watching Stoke since 1982 and I don't need lecturing on how I have to feel about the team. Were you a moaning tosser then as well. 🚾
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Post by Scrotnig on Aug 11, 2018 0:42:56 GMT
Ooh good, threats and intimidation, that'll sort it. Silence all criticism and pretend everything's sweetness and light. For the record I've been watching Stoke since 1982 and I don't need lecturing on how I have to feel about the team. Job Centre busy was it. Come on down tomorrow.....or don’t you go As I've stated before, I've made a personal decision that I will not continue to to fund the shambolic mismanagement of the club so I'm not going to any games or giving any money of any sort to the club these season. Relegation I can handle, unnecessary relegation through utter arrogance and incompetence I cannot. My money would be also be used to fund the arrogant lazy wastrels we have within the squad who won't do the honourable thing and f*ck off, and I cannot in good conscience provide any support to the current shambles. It shouldn't matter. after all, what's all the fuss about?
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Post by Scrotnig on Aug 11, 2018 0:44:00 GMT
What about the 38 games last season which were as bad or worse? New manager and 7 new players give him a chance like a minimum of 10 games to organize things Give who a chance? I have no issue with the manager. It's not his fault our club couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.
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Post by Scrotnig on Aug 11, 2018 0:45:08 GMT
Ooh good, threats and intimidation, that'll sort it. Silence all criticism and pretend everything's sweetness and light. For the record I've been watching Stoke since 1982 and I don't need lecturing on how I have to feel about the team. Were you a moaning tosser then as well. 🚾 Really don't understand this mentality. Are fans not supposed to complain when their club is being run like a bag of shyte?
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Post by miltonstokienew on Aug 11, 2018 1:32:56 GMT
Were you a moaning tosser then as well. 🚾 Really don't understand this mentality. Are fans not supposed to complain when their club is being run like a bag of shyte? It's because your a bellend
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Post by miltonstokienew on Aug 11, 2018 1:35:59 GMT
It's all the negative fans' fault! Hilarious.... Who do you support ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 2:20:38 GMT
Job Centre busy was it. Come on down tomorrow.....or don’t you go As I've stated before, I've made a personal decision that I will not continue to to fund the shambolic mismanagement of the club so I'm not going to any games or giving any money of any sort to the club these season. Relegation I can handle, unnecessary relegation through utter arrogance and incompetence I cannot. My money would be also be used to fund the arrogant lazy wastrels we have within the squad who won't do the honourable thing and f*ck off, and I cannot in good conscience provide any support to the current shambles. It shouldn't matter. after all, what's all the fuss about? Your financial contribution isn't a pebble in the ocean of our club's finances. That's not what you support the club for (at our level, anyway). So staying away only really hurts yourself, and you end up looking a dick when we are top in January, 20 games unbeaten, and all is looking good again* Three things I do believe, in the context of this post; 1. Mark Hughes is responsible for our relegation, first and foremost. 2. Peter paid the price for loyalty and should have really known that the writing was on the wall. 3. In any other business environment, our failings on a recruitment level would have bought to account, those making the calls. I refuse to believe that in a parallel universe, people would have kept their equivalent job/s at Bet365. None of this, by the way, is an excuse to boo a player of Stoke City - especially one who has just got on with things. Pathetic. * this won't happen btw, it's hypothetical.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Aug 11, 2018 4:51:49 GMT
Job Centre busy was it. Come on down tomorrow.....or don’t you go As I've stated before, I've made a personal decision that I will not continue to to fund the shambolic mismanagement of the club so I'm not going to any games or giving any money of any sort to the club these season. Relegation I can handle, unnecessary relegation through utter arrogance and incompetence I cannot. My money would be also be used to fund the arrogant lazy wastrels we have within the squad who won't do the honourable thing and f*ck off, and I cannot in good conscience provide any support to the current shambles. It shouldn't matter. after all, what's all the fuss about? That's fantastic news. Let's hope others of your ilk do the same. Hope you have a nice day shopping with the missus today 😂
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Post by colnepotter on Aug 11, 2018 5:25:19 GMT
As I've stated before, I've made a personal decision that I will not continue to to fund the shambolic mismanagement of the club so I'm not going to any games or giving any money of any sort to the club these season. Relegation I can handle, unnecessary relegation through utter arrogance and incompetence I cannot. My money would be also be used to fund the arrogant lazy wastrels we have within the squad who won't do the honourable thing and f*ck off, and I cannot in good conscience provide any support to the current shambles. It shouldn't matter. after all, what's all the fuss about? That's fantastic news. Let's hope others of your ilk do the same. Hope you have a nice day shopping with the missus today 😂 He’s got a wife? Fuck me. It’s supposed to be women that do all the moaning....
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Post by madmickthe3rd on Aug 11, 2018 7:43:18 GMT
Hey we surrendered to a very average Coventry team last season. We can easily lose to any of the teams in this division! We can but that's not a defence of anything is it? Apologies if you didn't mean it like that but for me that's why it's so frustrating. No it was more a reality check Bayern. All this spouting ( not you, just in general ) that we are too good for this league and that we are going to walk it ( not on this thread granted) I was just making the point that we lost to a much lower league club last season and that unless we roll our sleeves up and man up for the job in hand, there are a lot of hungry teams in this league who will not be scared of us at all ! Last weekend we were outdone in every department. Skill, Energy and Desire to name but 3. Early days of course, but for me that was enough evidence to say we need to up the ante very quickly!
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Post by shipshape on Aug 11, 2018 7:44:32 GMT
Job Centre busy was it. Come on down tomorrow.....or don’t you go As I've stated before, I've made a personal decision that I will not continue to to fund the shambolic mismanagement of the club so I'm not going to any games or giving any money of any sort to the club these season. Relegation I can handle, unnecessary relegation through utter arrogance and incompetence I cannot. My money would be also be used to fund the arrogant lazy wastrels we have within the squad who won't do the honourable thing and f*ck off, and I cannot in good conscience provide any support to the current shambles. It shouldn't matter. after all, what's all the fuss about? Go the whole hog mate and stop posting on here too. Don't worry you won't be missed!
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 11, 2018 7:51:43 GMT
If you can't deal with negativity there is not much point coming on a stoke supporters forum right now.
For over two years we have been wank and we have pissed away years of hard work establishing ourselves as a premier league club.
Last week we were humiliated by a far better prepared team, a team that change their manager every two weeks and are regarded as a laughing stock.
If we lose today, the atmosphere will be poisonous, and so it fucking should until we see someone at the club do something I.e the players to actually put in a performance, the manager to get his selections and substitutions right, the board and fucking transfer team to start signing players as part of a coherent strategy.
The club is a total shambles. We were in a position to be challenging for trophies and europe and fucked it up.
The only way to turn it around is to win some games. Everything changes if we could please please please show some urgency on the pitch, some idea of what it takes to win a football match, then win a football match. Fuck that would feel great
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Post by lordb on Aug 11, 2018 8:05:11 GMT
We have played one game only give it 10games What about the 38 games last season which were as bad or worse? What about then? The side has changed, the manager and coaches has changed The opposition has changed Comparing to last season is as useful as comparing to 1982-93 season.
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Post by colnepotter on Aug 11, 2018 8:14:58 GMT
If you can't deal with negativity there is not much point coming on a stoke supporters forum right now. For over two years we have been wank and we have pissed away years of hard work establishing ourselves as a premier league club. Last week we were humiliated by a far better prepared team, a team that change their manager every two weeks and are regarded as a laughing stock. If we lose today, the atmosphere will be poisonous, and so it fucking should until we see someone at the club do something I.e the players to actually put in a performance, the manager to get his selections and substitutions right, the board and fucking transfer team to start signing players as part of a coherent strategy. The club is a total shambles. We were in a position to be challenging for trophies and europe and fucked it up. The only way to turn it around is to win some games. Everything changes if we could please please please show some urgency on the pitch, some idea of what it takes to win a football match, then win a football match. Fuck that would feel great Winning games would help would it? Searing insight like that even I agree with! When it happens just watch the two faced cunts turn............and turn again when we lose.......and again when we win....... This is the problem with negative wankers the world over
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 11, 2018 8:19:51 GMT
What about the 38 games last season which were as bad or worse? What about then? The side has changed, the manager and coaches has changed The opposition has changed Comparing to last season is as useful as comparing to 1982-93 season. And the squad is still massively unbalanced.
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Post by Scrotnig on Aug 11, 2018 9:38:07 GMT
As I've stated before, I've made a personal decision that I will not continue to to fund the shambolic mismanagement of the club so I'm not going to any games or giving any money of any sort to the club these season. Relegation I can handle, unnecessary relegation through utter arrogance and incompetence I cannot. My money would be also be used to fund the arrogant lazy wastrels we have within the squad who won't do the honourable thing and f*ck off, and I cannot in good conscience provide any support to the current shambles. It shouldn't matter. after all, what's all the fuss about? Your financial contribution isn't a pebble in the ocean of our club's finances. That's not what you support the club for (at our level, anyway). So staying away only really hurts yourself, and you end up looking a dick when we are top in January, 20 games unbeaten, and all is looking good again* Three things I do believe, in the context of this post; 1. Mark Hughes is responsible for our relegation, first and foremost. 2. Peter paid the price for loyalty and should have really known that the writing was on the wall. 3. In any other business environment, our failings on a recruitment level would have bought to account, those making the calls. I refuse to believe that in a parallel universe, people would have kept their equivalent job/s at Bet365. None of this, by the way, is an excuse to boo a player of Stoke City - especially one who has just got on with things. Pathetic. * this won't happen btw, it's hypothetical. I should reiterate, though I've said it many times before. I do not support booing of our players. My protest is a stay away protest, anyone who is actually going to games should support the players on the pitch, as I always did, or not go. That's part of my problem...I find it difficult to support some of our squad because of their attitude. It is better I don't go.
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Post by Scrotnig on Aug 11, 2018 9:41:17 GMT
If you can't deal with negativity there is not much point coming on a stoke supporters forum right now. For over two years we have been wank and we have pissed away years of hard work establishing ourselves as a premier league club. Last week we were humiliated by a far better prepared team, a team that change their manager every two weeks and are regarded as a laughing stock. If we lose today, the atmosphere will be poisonous, and so it fucking should until we see someone at the club do something I.e the players to actually put in a performance, the manager to get his selections and substitutions right, the board and fucking transfer team to start signing players as part of a coherent strategy. The club is a total shambles. We were in a position to be challenging for trophies and europe and fucked it up. The only way to turn it around is to win some games. Everything changes if we could please please please show some urgency on the pitch, some idea of what it takes to win a football match, then win a football match. Fuck that would feel great Winning games would help would it? Searing insight like that even I agree with! When it happens just watch the two faced cunts turn............and turn again when we lose.......and again when we win....... This is the problem with negative wankers the world over I'm staying away this season and next. That much I decided from the start. That applies even if we get promoted. An element of it is also football in general, but that's for another thread. The only thing that would make me change my mind would be the shipping out AND cessation of payment of wages to a specific list of players. That is unfortunately impossible (even if we loan them out we will still be paying most of their wages) and it's not being done with my money.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 9:42:35 GMT
Your financial contribution isn't a pebble in the ocean of our club's finances. That's not what you support the club for (at our level, anyway). So staying away only really hurts yourself, and you end up looking a dick when we are top in January, 20 games unbeaten, and all is looking good again* Three things I do believe, in the context of this post; 1. Mark Hughes is responsible for our relegation, first and foremost. 2. Peter paid the price for loyalty and should have really known that the writing was on the wall. 3. In any other business environment, our failings on a recruitment level would have bought to account, those making the calls. I refuse to believe that in a parallel universe, people would have kept their equivalent job/s at Bet365. None of this, by the way, is an excuse to boo a player of Stoke City - especially one who has just got on with things. Pathetic. * this won't happen btw, it's hypothetical. I should reiterate, though I've said it many times before. I do not support booing of our players. My protest is a stay away protest, anyone who is actually going to games should support the players on the pitch, as I always did, or not go. That's part of my problem...I find it difficult to support some of our squad because of their attitude. It is better I don't go. That's fair enough. I just think that if 4,000 of you do it, it sends a message. If 10 of you do it, the only people impacted are yourselves. You and this Club will still be here long after Choupo Moting has driven off into the sunset in his Ferrari.
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Post by Scrotnig on Aug 11, 2018 9:43:13 GMT
What about the 38 games last season which were as bad or worse? What about then? The side has changed, the manager and coaches has changed The opposition has changed And the performances haven't changed. And the results haven't changed. And the group of players not wanting to play for the club while continuing to draw massive wages hasn't changed.
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