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Post by Scrotnig on Aug 9, 2018 23:25:51 GMT
What nonsense. How am I causing harm? I wanted a protest last season against Lambert and there was nothing. People sung his name. Look what good that did. The only people that are causing harm to this club are it’s board. They’re not doing it on purpose but they’re just not making good decisions. We didn’t get relegated because of me or anyone else moaning. That’s just hilarious. So you can’t spot the correlation between a poisonous atmosphere and reduced confidence? Really? When Fletcher came on on Sunday he just loved the booing. He felt 10 feet tall no doubt playing for such great fans. The support really boosted his confidence..... Booing is a different kettle of fish. I would never support the booing of any of our own players, ever.
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Post by GoBoks on Aug 10, 2018 1:06:23 GMT
Morecambe lost 6-0 to Crewe. Happy for you to advance your theory that we’re worse than them. That is pretty bad, I'll grant you that, but in context I couldn't say, you can be an overall good team and yet have an off day playing decent opposition. That could be what happened to Morecambe, though they were playing Crewe so I'll grant you that theory may not hold water. As a better example, Liverpool weren't really shit just because we beat them 6-1. It's how consistently shit we are that is the problem. We are ALWAYS shit and it's been like this for at least 18 months. About 150 years mate. It shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone who knows the club’s history!
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Post by oslostokie1 on Aug 10, 2018 1:52:54 GMT
Completely agree with the OP. It's the usual suspects spouting the same negativity again and again and again. None of them could manage a piss-up in a brewery yet they feel so cock-sure with the safety of the internet to spout their crap.
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Post by colnepotter on Aug 10, 2018 4:58:10 GMT
Completely agree with the OP. It's the usual suspects spouting the same negativity again and again and again. None of them could manage a piss-up in a brewery yet they feel so cock-sure with the safety of the internet to spout their crap. Spot on. Perhaps we should do something about it. Get rid of this scum and reclaim OUR club before they do anymore damage....
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Post by Scrotnig on Aug 10, 2018 5:08:09 GMT
It's all the negative fans' fault! Hilarious....
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Post by colnepotter on Aug 10, 2018 5:23:30 GMT
Perhaps you should come into Stoke town on Saturday and meet some of us ‘hilarious’ fans. We would all be very pleased to see you in the Staff, Wheatsheaf, B & B etc. Run your theories past us. You will be carried shoulder high through the streets...... In reality of course you would just get your head stuffed down the bog where shit belongs! Have a nice day and don’t forget your appointment at the Job Centre.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Aug 10, 2018 5:58:35 GMT
It's all the negative fans' fault! Hilarious.... I certainly don't believe that but they have not helped. I've witnessed players being booed at the ground and some of the fan's expectation levels have been staggering at times. This has generally been spouted by the new faces that have sat around us, since promotion. I've said it many times...I would rather be sat next to an empty seat, than be sat next to this type of supporter. Support your team or fuck off. When we lose, kick the dog when you get back home, or go for a beer and slag the players off in the pub. That is what we still and will always do. Paying your entrance fee doesn't give you the right to drag our team down. Unfortunately, we've started to turn into one of the club's that we have always despised and this is all down to expectation and our god given right to remain in the premier league. This is something that I've rarely witnessed in the 40 years that I have been going to watch Stoke. We've witnessed far far worse over the years and I've read on here that this is the worst team for years. What absolute bollocks! 'We'll be with you' is sang with passion by the genuine supporters. It would seem that it's just 'another song' for others. Rant over. Fish. P.S. I was only joking about the dog 😉
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Post by justastokefan17 on Aug 10, 2018 6:10:04 GMT
We all get frustrated about our club weve all had good times bad times etc etc etc ..but for gods sake will some on here stop pretending they know everything that goes on and that they could do a better job ..stop slagging the club the players to the extent where someone posted yesterday that if we signed Johnson from Derby he wouldn't support Stoke anymore ..lol...fucking joke ..i dont post much ..i read lots of the stuff written some makes me laugh some makes sense ..some is depressing..
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Post by Parkhall Wanderer on Aug 10, 2018 6:12:11 GMT
It's all the negative fans' fault! Hilarious.... Yes it’s funny you can’t help being a negative w****r. Pity your Dad wasn’t 😜
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Post by skemstokie on Aug 10, 2018 6:38:24 GMT
We must of got on board H.M.S.Stoke City at the same time,been through many storms and many years in the doldrums but what a lot of younger fans don`t realize is that these last ten years have been pretty much plain sailing.more like being on a cruise compared to some of the more turbulent years , Same here I too have been on the ups, downs and plummets of the Stoke City rollercoaster for the last 50 something years. The last 10 years have been ok but nothing like the early to mid 70s when we almost pulled off the impossible dream where most teams in the top division could compete as there was not a monopoly by the big 6 as there is now. We may get back into the PL and hope we do for the good it does for the city. But there is a massive caveat in that we can never hope to compete with the big boys and therefore it would be "rinse and repeat" of the last ten years. However with a bit more investment with PL money we could hope for another cup run and European tour but that would be it. I find the early to mid 70s period the most disappointing period as we"HAD" a chance to win the league ,more-so than last seasons relegation gloom,in fact last season i feel we played so poorly we deserved to go down,in the early seventies as a team we deserved to go down in history.
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Post by gibby1409 on Aug 10, 2018 6:52:44 GMT
The op has a great point.
I'm all for opinions, it makes the world go round. But the unfounded negativity on here from a small number of posters who flood many subjects is getting a bit out of hand.
All it makes you do is not bother logging on, because the Oatcake has possible 1500 members, I'm not sure. And out of the 1500 possibly 150 are really negative and can take over threads. So my view is I'm not going to get too excited over what in effect is approx 0.5% of what has been a typical home attendance moaning and groaning, so I pick up all my Stoke info from elsewhere and don't bother logging on.
Admin need be a bit careful because if this gets too out of hand, the oatcake will just fizzle out, which would be a crying shame.
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Post by foster on Aug 10, 2018 7:44:55 GMT
We don't post anymore...
We don't post anymore...
We don't post anymore like we ussssed too dooo.
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Aug 10, 2018 7:45:34 GMT
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Post by Davef on Aug 10, 2018 7:45:34 GMT
The op has a great point. I'm all for opinions, it makes the world go round. But the unfounded negativity on here from a small number of posters who flood many subjects is getting a bit out of hand. All it makes you do is not bother logging on, because the Oatcake has possible 1500 members, I'm not sure. And out of the 1500 possibly 150 are really negative and can take over threads. So my view is I'm not going to get too excited over what in effect is approx 0.5% of what has been a typical home attendance moaning and groaning, so I pick up all my Stoke info from elsewhere and don't bother logging on. Admin need be a bit careful because if this gets too out of hand, the oatcake will just fizzle out, which would be a crying shame. The paper fanzine itself is probably going to no more this time next year, so we won't be losing any sleep should that happen.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 10, 2018 7:48:05 GMT
The op has a great point. I'm all for opinions, it makes the world go round. But the unfounded negativity on here from a small number of posters who flood many subjects is getting a bit out of hand. All it makes you do is not bother logging on, because the Oatcake has possible 1500 members, I'm not sure. And out of the 1500 possibly 150 are really negative and can take over threads. So my view is I'm not going to get too excited over what in effect is approx 0.5% of what has been a typical home attendance moaning and groaning, so I pick up all my Stoke info from elsewhere and don't bother logging on. Admin need be a bit careful because if this gets too out of hand, the oatcake will just fizzle out, which would be a crying shame. Unfounded? WE GOT RELEGATED!!!!
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Post by justastokefan17 on Aug 10, 2018 8:00:30 GMT
The op has a great point. I'm all for opinions, it makes the world go round. But the unfounded negativity on here from a small number of posters who flood many subjects is getting a bit out of hand. All it makes you do is not bother logging on, because the Oatcake has possible 1500 members, I'm not sure. And out of the 1500 possibly 150 are really negative and can take over threads. So my view is I'm not going to get too excited over what in effect is approx 0.5% of what has been a typical home attendance moaning and groaning, so I pick up all my Stoke info from elsewhere and don't bother logging on. Admin need be a bit careful because if this gets too out of hand, the oatcake will just fizzle out, which would be a crying shame. Unfounded? WE GOT RELEGATED!!!!
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Post by justastokefan17 on Aug 10, 2018 8:06:35 GMT
I think it was meant as a general observation .we got RELEGATED ..yes i think we noticed that ..but weve lost one game ..obviously we were poor and Leeds were excellent. But its a new season..new manager .new backroom team..some are being over negative..some me included are probably being over optimistic..but slagging the players off so much is very poor ..i know bayern is a massive stoke fan his knowledge of the u23s etc etc is fantastic but fuck me you are a miserable fucker 😋
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 10, 2018 8:10:02 GMT
Completely agree with the OP. It's the usual suspects spouting the same negativity again and again and again. None of them could manage a piss-up in a brewery yet they feel so cock-sure with the safety of the internet to spout their crap. Spot on. Perhaps we should do something about it. Get rid of this scum and reclaim OUR club before they do anymore damage.... I'd argue that happy clapping fools like yourself do more harm than people who are genuinely concerned about the club and the direction it has gone in the last few years. You're Coates and Scholes' dream supporter.
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 10, 2018 8:26:11 GMT
The op has a great point. I'm all for opinions, it makes the world go round. But the unfounded negativity on here from a small number of posters who flood many subjects is getting a bit out of hand. All it makes you do is not bother logging on, because the Oatcake has possible 1500 members, I'm not sure. And out of the 1500 possibly 150 are really negative and can take over threads. So my view is I'm not going to get too excited over what in effect is approx 0.5% of what has been a typical home attendance moaning and groaning, so I pick up all my Stoke info from elsewhere and don't bother logging on. Admin need be a bit careful because if this gets too out of hand, the oatcake will just fizzle out, which would be a crying shame. The paper fanzine itself is probably going to no more this time next year, so we won't be losing any sleep should that happen. The Oatcake isn’t going to be published anymore? How come?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 10, 2018 8:27:57 GMT
I think it was meant as a general observation .we got RELEGATED ..yes i think we noticed that ..but weve lost one game ..obviously we were poor and Leeds were excellent. But its a new season..new manager .new backroom team..some are being over negative..some me included are probably being over optimistic..but slagging the players off so much is very poor ..i know bayern is a massive stoke fan his knowledge of the u23s etc etc is fantastic but fuck me you are a miserable fucker 😋 It's not about one game. It's about 3 years of playing how we did in that one game. The new manager on the whole has got the fans backing. It's the shower of shit under him and above that it's lacking for. The players on the whole are the same ones that haven't shown they give a fuck for the last 18 months, why shouldn't we slag them off? What have they done to be granted this immunity from criticism? Because we're shit and there's no real good reason for it.
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Post by Squeekster on Aug 10, 2018 8:33:22 GMT
It seems an argument starts on every thread these days.
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Post by claytonscrubs on Aug 10, 2018 8:34:00 GMT
The op has a great point. I'm all for opinions, it makes the world go round. But the unfounded negativity on here from a small number of posters who flood many subjects is getting a bit out of hand. All it makes you do is not bother logging on, because the Oatcake has possible 1500 members, I'm not sure. And out of the 1500 possibly 150 are really negative and can take over threads. So my view is I'm not going to get too excited over what in effect is approx 0.5% of what has been a typical home attendance moaning and groaning, so I pick up all my Stoke info from elsewhere and don't bother logging on. Admin need be a bit careful because if this gets too out of hand, the oatcake will just fizzle out, which would be a crying shame. 150? Nah! There’s 4 or 5 negative trolls on here that should be done away with imo, the other 145/6 are just clinically depressed and shouldn’t be stigmatised 😉😀
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Post by Davef on Aug 10, 2018 8:41:00 GMT
The paper fanzine itself is probably going to no more this time next year, so we won't be losing any sleep should that happen. The Oatcake isn’t going to be published anymore? How come? All good things come to an end!
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 10, 2018 8:56:55 GMT
It seems an argument starts on every thread these days. No it doesn't ...
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Post by gibby1409 on Aug 10, 2018 8:57:40 GMT
The Oatcake isn’t going to be published anymore? How come? All good things come to an end! This is my fear with the message board too. People will slowly but surely ignore negativity, it's what people do when there's no change The Oatcake will be left with a few people commenting, admittedly they will have tens of thousands of posts to their names tho..... Or are we already at that stage? 😉
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Post by ParaPsych on Aug 10, 2018 9:10:13 GMT
At the stadium our fans are incredibly supportive. Last season there was some booing where as other clubs would have had the placards out.
The problem with the message board is not so much the negativity, more the inability of a great many to properly articulate themselves. You also have the look at me look at me weapons on each side of a debate. The sort of people who quite frankly would get a kicking in any normal environment with their behaviour.
If we have more stringent rules and a whole boatload of admins to enforce them we might be able to get people to debate the points, not the posters a bit more. And make people stop constantly repeating themselves with what is essentially spam. But then people might find that boring and stay away. I do know an awful lot of people who stay away because of the current way it works too though so who knows what would be best?
But this is a free service and there doesn't seem to be many people jumping up to help out with things. As a whole though, our support are incredibly accepting of failure and far less negative than they probably have a right to be at times.
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Post by 1977delta on Aug 10, 2018 9:26:20 GMT
A problem with discussions on here is that it gets so polarised. If you challenge the negativity some then brand you a 'happy clapper', which is an attempt to dismiss your position completely. It is possible to criticise the extent of some of the negativity on here ,while at the same time having some disappointment and frustration yourself in how things are going but ALSO seeing some positive.
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Post by greenstokie on Aug 10, 2018 10:44:09 GMT
It's an internet forum. You don't have to read it all. Debate is good, sometimes even from the negative fuckers who are occasionally right. Last season must have been a wet dream for some of the miserable gits. I just simply ignore the same posters that spout the same repetitive shoite and look for the ones who regularly post common sense. However, I've learnt to avoid this forum for a day or two after a defeat. When we beat the mighty bees on Saturday, sure wont we be only just great...again. ;-
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Post by superheroantonius on Aug 10, 2018 10:55:14 GMT
Spot on. Perhaps we should do something about it. Get rid of this scum and reclaim OUR club before they do anymore damage.... I'd argue that happy clapping fools like yourself do more harm than people who are genuinely concerned about the club and the direction it has gone in the last few years. You're Coates and Scholes' dream supporter. This ...
I have no interest in going over old ground about whether Paul Lambert is or is not , a good manager .
But he was definitely a top footballer , he marked zinedine zidane out of the game v juventus in a European cup final , and set up the opening goal, and you don't do that by being a muppet
According to PL when he arrived , the players were unfit , and the attitude of several , was beyond poor and outright unprofessional .
I believe him . I don't think he is liar , I think he spoke the truth .
Clearly that is a poor state of affairs , and those responsible deserve criticism
Good luck to GR , in sorting out the mess .
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 10, 2018 11:20:43 GMT
A problem with discussions on here is that it gets so polarised. If you challenge the negativity some then brand you a 'happy clapper', which is an attempt to dismiss your position completely. It is possible to criticise the extent of some of the negativity on here ,while at the same time having some disappointment and frustration yourself in how things are going but ALSO seeing some positive. You've created a thread called "cessplt". Good way of trying to change that!
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Post by Scrotnig on Aug 10, 2018 11:40:24 GMT
Perhaps you should come into Stoke town on Saturday and meet some of us ‘hilarious’ fans. We would all be very pleased to see you in the Staff, Wheatsheaf, B & B etc. Run your theories past us. You will be carried shoulder high through the streets...... In reality of course you would just get your head stuffed down the bog where shit belongs! Have a nice day and don’t forget your appointment at the Job Centre. Ooh good, threats and intimidation, that'll sort it. Silence all criticism and pretend everything's sweetness and light. For the record I've been watching Stoke since 1982 and I don't need lecturing on how I have to feel about the team.
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