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Post by werrington on Jul 17, 2018 17:00:58 GMT
Proof Lampard has more pulling power than Rowett has. If I was Manchester City I’d be worried about Guardiola then given that Chelsea have just beaten them to that Brazilian bloke It happens ffs ....it means he just fancied the derby challenge over ours, no lore no less
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 17, 2018 17:03:26 GMT
Proof Lampard has more pulling power than Rowett has. But not proof that the players will do the job and he is a good manager as yet...... I agree to a degree but Rowett hasn't actually achieved anything yet either. The point I made when Lampard got the Derby job was that he'd attract better players than Rowett and it looks to be the case. Personally I think in the long run Lampard will be much more successful than Rowett.
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Post by baystokie on Jul 17, 2018 17:04:35 GMT
Proof Lampard has more pulling power than Rowett has. ......... or proof that Lampard has fewer players to stop Wilson getting game time?
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 17, 2018 17:05:37 GMT
Proof Lampard has more pulling power than Rowett has. ......... or proof that Lampard has fewer players to stop Wilson getting game time? Isn't this lad a winger and errrmmm we haven't got any?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 17:07:02 GMT
But not proof that the players will do the job and he is a good manager as yet...... I agree to a degree but Rowett hasn't actually achieved anything yet either. The point I made when Lampard got the Derby job was that he'd attract better players than Rowett and it looks to be the case. Personally I think in the long run Lampard will be much more successful than Rowett. Two youngsters albeit highly rated doesn't prove that much, Derby may have promised them game time, paid a higher loan fee etc etc. Time will tell as you say but to say he's attracted "better players than Rowett" isn't actually true at the moment....
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 17, 2018 17:07:40 GMT
Proof Lampard has more pulling power than Rowett has. ......... or proof that Lampard has fewer players to stop Wilson getting game time? Yeah we've got wingers coming out of our arses haven't we
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Post by Absolution on Jul 17, 2018 17:08:18 GMT
We can't squeal too loudly about Frankie beating us to players signatures because of his name and reputation. There was a time when we used Hughes' name and reputation at United, Barcelona and Bayern to sign some decent players.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 17, 2018 17:09:46 GMT
I agree to a degree but Rowett hasn't actually achieved anything yet either. The point I made when Lampard got the Derby job was that he'd attract better players than Rowett and it looks to be the case. Personally I think in the long run Lampard will be much more successful than Rowett. Two youngsters albeit highly rated doesn't prove that much, Derby may have promised them game time, paid a higher loan fee etc etc. Time will tell as you say but to say he's attracted "better players than Rowett" isn't actually true at the moment.... Well I'd rather they signed for us instead of them. It strengthens one of our promotion rivals for sure.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 17, 2018 17:10:40 GMT
We can't squeal too loudly about Frankie beating us to players signatures because of his name and reputation. There was a time when we used Hughes' name and reputation at United, Barcelona and Bayern to sign some decent players. No complaints. Some people said it wouldn't be the case. First time we go up against him the lad plumps for Derby. Case closed m'lud. Hopefully we sign Ritchie soon.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 17, 2018 17:13:50 GMT
With his output last season he'd surely walk into our side? If we sign Ritchie and McClean who do you think is more likely of the three to be on the bench? McClean you'd hope?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 17, 2018 17:17:54 GMT
If we end up with McLean playing on the left whilst they're playing Wilson on the left I'll be seriously pissed off.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 17, 2018 17:19:44 GMT
If we end up with McLean playing on the left whilst they're playing Wilson on the left I'll be seriously pissed off. Yeah that'd be pretty wank.
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Post by Absolution on Jul 17, 2018 17:21:29 GMT
We can't squeal too loudly about Frankie beating us to players signatures because of his name and reputation. There was a time when we used Hughes' name and reputation at United, Barcelona and Bayern to sign some decent players. No complaints. Some people said it wouldn't be the case. First time we go up against him the lad plumps for Derby. Case closed m'lud. Hopefully we sign Ritchie soon. Lots of people say lots of things. He's got the job because he's a name. He'll get a few players in initially because of his name (unless Derby were more willing to guarantee Wilson game time). At some point though he'll start to stand and fall on his merits as a manager. Having better players will help, but as we've found, if the coaching, organisation, discipline etc aren't right, it just won't work in the long term. We'll find out about that in time. That's when we can judge Lampard the manager rather than the name.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 17, 2018 17:21:51 GMT
Derby have done well to get these lads but when Lampard came in he was told that they couldn’t afford top dollar so the route they were going to go down was young up and coming players which they’ve done with these 2 signings.They want Marriott from Peterborough also but cannot buy him until they sell Vydra from what I gather
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 17, 2018 17:22:58 GMT
If we end up with McLean playing on the left whilst they're playing Wilson on the left I'll be seriously pissed off. Yeah that'd be pretty wank. You know it's going to happen.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 17, 2018 17:30:49 GMT
If we sign Ritchie and McClean who do you think is more likely of the three to be on the bench? McClean you'd hope? Do you see Rowett doing that, given his style of play and the fact that he's a longtime admirer of McClean with a (possibly fair, possibly not) reputed distrust of flair players?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 17:32:48 GMT
The Lampard wank fest from some on here is funny, let’s see how he does as a manager first.
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Post by gonk on Jul 17, 2018 17:38:42 GMT
Derby have done well to get these lads but when Lampard came in he was told that they couldn’t afford top dollar so the route they were going to go down was young up and coming players which they’ve done with these 2 signings.They want Marriott from Peterborough also but cannot buy him until they sell Vydra from what I gather That’s what Nixon has said. No money for Marriott. Unless Vydra goes. Looking at a lot of these clubs they seem to be talking about transfer ‘s but have no money to do them.Sounds like Vydra is hoping a prem club come in for him.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Jul 17, 2018 17:38:55 GMT
The Lampard wank fest from some on here is funny, let’s see how he does as a manager first. He may have connections and reputation as a player - but can he coach? I've not seen any evidence that he can!
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 17, 2018 17:39:09 GMT
The Lampard wank fest from some on here is funny, let’s see how he does as a manager first. Well he doesn't need to achieve much to better what Rowett has done in his managerial career so far.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 17, 2018 17:39:29 GMT
The Lampard wank fest from some on here is funny, let’s see how he does as a manager first. That's true, lets see how he does. Fact is he's got a lot harder job.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 17:40:17 GMT
The Lampard wank fest from some on here is funny, let’s see how he does as a manager first. Well he doesn't need to achieve much to better what Rowett has done in his managerial career so far. Couple on here are desperate to see Rowett fail, it’s a sad state of affairs.
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Post by WhyDelilah on Jul 17, 2018 17:40:44 GMT
The Lampard wank fest from some on here is funny, let’s see how he does as a manager first. Well he doesn't need to achieve much to better what Rowett has done in his managerial career so far. If it's up there, I'll give you the money myself.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 17, 2018 17:44:53 GMT
Well he doesn't need to achieve much to better what Rowett has done in his managerial career so far. Couple on here are desperate to see Rowett fail, it’s a sad state of affairs. Clearly untrue
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 17, 2018 17:48:40 GMT
Do you see Rowett doing that, given his style of play and the fact that he's a longtime admirer of McClean with a (possibly fair, possibly not) reputed distrust of flair players? Again, I'd hope he would because he'd be mad not to.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 17, 2018 17:52:48 GMT
Why do certain people on here still claim that Rowett's done nothing? are these the people that say Poch at Spurs isn't any good because he hasn't won a trophy?!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 17, 2018 17:55:47 GMT
Derby have done well to get these lads but when Lampard came in he was told that they couldn’t afford top dollar so the route they were going to go down was young up and coming players which they’ve done with these 2 signings.They want Marriott from Peterborough also but cannot buy him until they sell Vydra from what I gather That’s what Nixon has said. No money for Marriott. Unless Vydra goes. Looking at a lot of these clubs they seem to be talking about transfer ‘s but have no money to do them.Sounds like Vydra is hoping a prem club come in for him. I think it’s common knowledge around Derby mate and like you say it sounds like Vydra is waiting for a big offer.They were supposed to be selling Thomas to West Ham and Bryson to Cardiff but Fat Frank has been impressed by both so it looks like they’re staying.Raising money for other transfers will probably come from selling donkey Chris Martin
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 18:02:04 GMT
Why do certain people on here still claim that Rowett's done nothing? are these the people that say Poch at Spurs isn't any good because he hasn't won a trophy?! These are the people who wanted Lampard as manager.
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 17, 2018 18:32:59 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 17, 2018 18:43:32 GMT
5 I think in the matchday 18
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