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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Jul 17, 2018 15:26:00 GMT
As an alternative, I'd take Sheyi Ojo on loan for a season.
You'd have thought as part of the deal for Shaq we could have included Wilson if we really wanted him, or was it too far down the line with Derby already?
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Post by mattythestokie on Jul 17, 2018 15:29:54 GMT
As an alternative, I'd take Sheyi Ojo on loan for a season. You'd have thought as part of the deal for Shaq we could have included Wilson if we really wanted him, or was it too far down the line with Derby already? There’s no possible way we could have had him in the deal. They could have him for 13.5million if they wanted him, why would they feel the need to send him to us on loan when they don’t have to and can potentially get more money from him elsewhere?
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Jul 17, 2018 15:32:28 GMT
As an alternative, I'd take Sheyi Ojo on loan for a season. You'd have thought as part of the deal for Shaq we could have included Wilson if we really wanted him, or was it too far down the line with Derby already? There’s no possible way we could have had him in the deal. They could have him for 13.5million if they wanted him, why would they feel the need to send him to us on loan when they don’t have to and can potentially get more money from him elsewhere? I don't see a loan fee for a youngster being a big deal to a club of Liverpool's size. The fee will be next to nothing to them. I'd imagine they're more concerned with the game time the player will get rather than how much they're getting every month or whatever.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 17, 2018 15:33:23 GMT
They can probably over him greater guarantees of regular football. With his output last season he'd surely walk into our side? If we sign Ritchie and McClean who do you think is more likely of the three to be on the bench?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 15:38:45 GMT
With his output last season he'd surely walk into our side? If we sign Ritchie and McClean who do you think is more likely of the three to be on the bench? McClean obviously
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Post by essexstokey on Jul 17, 2018 15:41:18 GMT
There’s no possible way we could have had him in the deal. They could have him for 13.5million if they wanted him, why would they feel the need to send him to us on loan when they don’t have to and can potentially get more money from him elsewhere? I don't see a loan fee for a youngster being a big deal to a club of Liverpool's size. The fee will be next to nothing to them. I'd imagine they're more concerned with the game time the player will get rather than how much they're getting every month or whatever. The problem with the modern game is that the top 6 snap up all the young talent stick them out on loan or in the reserves get huge loan fees and do this to stop there rivals getting them it is stopping the development of players how many of the u17/20 world cup players will be playing for the top teams this year regularly and England are the best team in the world at these age groups!!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 17, 2018 15:41:34 GMT
If we sign Ritchie and McClean who do you think is more likely of the three to be on the bench? McClean obviously 'Obviously'? Is that what you'd do, or what you think Rowett would do?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 15:47:48 GMT
Both, he's a better footballer.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 17, 2018 15:54:14 GMT
Both, he's a better footballer. That's not always how it works though is it? And Rowett is known as a conservative manager and one who is a longtime admirer of McClean.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Jul 17, 2018 16:02:38 GMT
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jul 17, 2018 16:12:14 GMT
I'll ask again: If we sign Ritchie for the right and Choupo stays, surely the latter would play on the left? Which would mean we're looking for a back-up winger. McClean would fit the bill as would Ojo...neither would be starters.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 16:13:24 GMT
I'll ask again: If we sign Ritchie for the right and Choupo stays, surely the latter would play on the left? Which would mean we're looking for a back-up winger. McClean would fit the bill as would Ojo...neither would be starters. If Rowett gets McClean, he will be a starter.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jul 17, 2018 16:14:34 GMT
Why on earth would McClean be a better option than Choupo?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 17, 2018 16:15:43 GMT
Why on earth would McClean be a better option than Choupo? In a Rowett team one word GRAFT
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Jul 17, 2018 16:16:33 GMT
Why on earth would McClean be a better option than Choupo? Rowett chased McClean at Derby and now here - do you really think he's going to sign him and not play him? Managers have their favourites, we all know that.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jul 17, 2018 16:17:21 GMT
What about skill, assists and goals? Choup may be a bit lazy but as a footballer he's better than McClean and offers more threat up top.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 17, 2018 16:17:56 GMT
I still wouldn't be staggered if Choupo leaves.
Doesn't really seem a Rowett type.
It does seem like the plan for McClean to start on one wing and Ritchie the other
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 17, 2018 16:18:30 GMT
What about skill, assists and goals? Choup may be a bit lazy but as a footballer he's better than McClean and offers more threat up top. A mixture of both would be nice
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jul 17, 2018 16:21:51 GMT
I still wouldn't be staggered if Choupo leaves. Doesn't really seem a Rowett type. It does seem like the plan for McClean to start on one wing and Ritchie the other If Choup leaves then a certain number of goals will leave with him. If we see Ritchie as a Shaq replacement, you'd think he might chip in with at least as many, if not more, goals. McClean's goals return is terrible. I'd be disappointed with his signature and it has nothing to do with his politics.
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Post by tuum on Jul 17, 2018 16:38:00 GMT
Wilson and Liverpool may have chosen Derby because of Frank. However, I suspect it is more likely due to promised game time. They will know we have hard ons for McLean and Ritchie and a perfectly adequate Choupo so in that sense it is an easy decision for him/Liverpool to make.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 17, 2018 16:41:32 GMT
We’ve got better or will have come August.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 17, 2018 16:42:19 GMT
Choupo is a million times better a footballer than Irish Jim. Why can't Rowett and his coaches get the best out of Choupo rather than wasting £6million on a shithouse?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 17, 2018 16:43:27 GMT
What about skill, assists and goals? Choup may be a bit lazy but as a footballer he's better than McClean and offers more threat up top. Rowett, as Mutts says, is all about the graft and 'aaard work though isn't he?
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Jul 17, 2018 16:44:51 GMT
Choupo is a million times better a footballer than Irish Jim. Why can't Rowett and his coaches get the best out of Choupo rather than wasting £6million on a shithouse? Choupo played like a shithouse at times last season, there were even suggestions he wasn't that injured at the end of last season, just wasn't up for the fight - sounds like a great player to have in your ranks.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 17, 2018 16:47:46 GMT
We're in a time warp. It's 2003 all over again!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 17, 2018 16:47:50 GMT
Choupo is a very skilful player who puts his mind to it could excell in the Championship. It’s whether he can be bothered.
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Post by tuum on Jul 17, 2018 16:49:11 GMT
Choupo is a million times better a footballer than Irish Jim. Why can't Rowett and his coaches get the best out of Choupo rather than wasting £6million on a shithouse? Choupo played like a shithouse at times last season, there were even suggestions he wasn't that injured at the end of last season, just wasn't up for the fight - sounds like a great player to have in your ranks. Most of your post is supposition and hearsay. The rest is subject to debate.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Jul 17, 2018 16:50:10 GMT
Choupo played like a shithouse at times last season, there were even suggestions he wasn't that injured at the end of last season, just wasn't up for the fight - sounds like a great player to have in your ranks. Most of your post is supposition and hearsay. The rest is subject to debate. Isn't everything subject to debate?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 17, 2018 16:56:07 GMT
Proof Lampard has more pulling power than Rowett has.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 16:58:37 GMT
Proof Lampard has more pulling power than Rowett has. But not proof that the players will do the job and he is a good manager as yet......
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