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Post by miltonpotterfan on Jun 9, 2018 9:47:50 GMT
So I have been told this morning, he has already spoken to him at length on the phone and will meet him personally when he returns from holiday.
Hope its true, I would love see Bojan in the Championship
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Post by WhyDelilah on Jun 9, 2018 9:52:00 GMT
So I have been told this morning, he has already spoken to him at length on the phone and will meet him personally when he returns from holiday. Hope its true, I would love see Bojan in the Championship Based on what? The away game at Spurs, or every bit of evidence we've seen post Rochdale? We need to stop clinging to unrealistic hope on some of our players (see Berahino) and start backing and buying players that are cut out to get us back up. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jun 9, 2018 10:03:42 GMT
I hope Rowett gives all the players in the squad a chance to demonstrate whether they've got what it takes for a promotion campaign in the Championship and that includes Bojan. However I'm really not convinced he's got what it takes to withstand the rigours of such a tough, physical league - either physically or mentally. To be honest I think Imbula is the one we could really do with rehabilitating - that's "just" a head problem.
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Post by lordb on Jun 9, 2018 10:06:02 GMT
So I have been told this morning, he has already spoken to him at length on the phone and will meet him personally when he returns from holiday. Hope its true, I would love see Bojan in the Championship Based on what? The away game at Spurs, or every bit of evidence we've seen post Rochdale? We need to stop clinging to unrealistic hope on some of our players (see Berahino) and start backing and buying players that are cut out to get us back up. How many times does it have to be pointed out that Bojan was in excellent form post Rochdale as part of the BMX side when Hughes got Stoke playing the best football since Waddington? Anyway I also think it's worth pointing out that the Championship is a lower level as such Bojan should piss it. |
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Post by WhyDelilah on Jun 9, 2018 10:07:17 GMT
Based on what? The away game at Spurs, or every bit of evidence we've seen post Rochdale? We need to stop clinging to unrealistic hope on some of our players (see Berahino) and start backing and buying players that are cut out to get us back up. How many times does it have to be pointed out that Bojan was in excellent form post Rochdale as part of the BMX side when Hughes got Stoke playing the best football since Waddington? Anyway I also think it's worth pointing out that the Championship is a lower level as such Bojan should piss it. He absolutely wasn't. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jun 9, 2018 10:09:19 GMT
So I have been told this morning, he has already spoken to him at length on the phone and will meet him personally when he returns from holiday. Hope its true, I would love see Bojan in the Championship Based on what? The away game at Spurs, or every bit of evidence we've seen post Rochdale? We need to stop clinging to unrealistic hope on some of our players (see Berahino) and start backing and buying players that are cut out to get us back up. Admittedly he's clearly been poor in his loan spells but you're re-writing history their fella. He injured his knee in January 2015 and it was in December 2015 that the Bojan/Arnie/Shaqiri inspired 'Stokalona' tore the best teams in the league to shreds. So 'post Rochdale' he's been really quite good. What happened after that is anyones guess. Therefore if Rowett can get in his head and get him firing again it will be well worth it. The same with Berahino. If not then yes we will have to buy. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 9, 2018 10:11:35 GMT
Based on what? The away game at Spurs, or every bit of evidence we've seen post Rochdale? We need to stop clinging to unrealistic hope on some of our players (see Berahino) and start backing and buying players that are cut out to get us back up. How many times does it have to be pointed out that Bojan was in excellent form post Rochdale as part of the BMX side when Hughes got Stoke playing the best football since Waddington? Anyway I also think it's worth pointing out that the Championship is a lower level as such Bojan should piss it. Only briefly was he in excellent form. He never came close to consistently hitting the heights of before and he hasn’t on loan either. Hard to see Rowett, who is a pragmatist by all accounts, finding a place for him. |
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Post by lordb on Jun 9, 2018 10:18:48 GMT
How many times does it have to be pointed out that Bojan was in excellent form post Rochdale as part of the BMX side when Hughes got Stoke playing the best football since Waddington? Anyway I also think it's worth pointing out that the Championship is a lower level as such Bojan should piss it. He absolutely wasn't. We will have to absolutely disagree. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2018 10:32:33 GMT
Can’t see him being suited to the championship at all.
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Post by mrcoke on Jun 9, 2018 10:40:17 GMT
So I have been told this morning, he has already spoken to him at length on the phone and will meet him personally when he returns from holiday. Hope its true, I would love see Bojan in the Championship Based on what? The away game at Spurs, or every bit of evidence we've seen post Rochdale? We need to stop clinging to unrealistic hope on some of our players (see Berahino) and start backing and buying players that are cut out to get us back up. I agree. I am as guilty as anyone dreaming of great comebacks, but then that is part of being a fan. I'd love to see Bojan working his magic, but realistically there is little to no chance of it happening. Many posters will deny it, but a lot of us are guilty of looking at the world through rose-tinted glasses. A lot blame Berahino, Jese, Wimmer etc. for our relegation whereas the reality is they actually played very little and the players who played the most (>30x) and are logically most to blame for relegation are Butland, Pieters, Zouma, Allen, Shaqiri, and Diouf. But we don't let logic get in the way of our hopes and dreams. We do need to accept that our team was the second worst team last season and those players who were sent away, were sent because they had failed to contribute. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 9, 2018 10:40:58 GMT
Ahhh the old Bojan scale. Never has a player been judged by such harsh standards compared to some of the actual wank we've had these past three years, including some fan boy favourites.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jun 9, 2018 10:41:00 GMT
Can’t see him being suited to the championship at all. He wasn't doing bad against Rocdale, before he got injured. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2018 10:44:12 GMT
Can’t see him being suited to the championship at all. He wasn't doing bad against Rocdale, before he got injured. He was awful against Wolves in the cup. Will be interesting to see what Rowett can do with him. If he can get him fit and firing he's every inch our Vydra. He'd score a hatful. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jun 9, 2018 10:48:37 GMT
He wasn't doing bad against Rocdale, before he got injured. He was awful against Wolves in the cup. Will be interesting to see what Rowett can do with him. If he can get him for and firing he's every inch our Vydra. He'd score a hatful. I know mate I was just pointing out that there isn't really any evidence to show he'd be no good in the Championship. If Rowett can get his head back on straight it would be insane not to try him. I think he'd rip that league. Might even be a blessing in disguise to drop down a level and for him to re-discovery his thingamy. |
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jun 9, 2018 10:48:56 GMT
We need a craftsman in attack,maybe it could be bojan. But more likely we will sign a quick winger who can also fill the role of playmaker
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Post by spitthedog on Jun 9, 2018 10:51:07 GMT
I thought he was meant to be having psychological problems?
Hope GR is bringing a good collection of Therapists with him!
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Post by iglugluk on Jun 9, 2018 11:04:02 GMT
Clearly Bojan's issues have been primarily psychological over the years.
If he can get himself in a good place mentally then he'll be a valuable asset for us, once again.
Here's hoping.
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Post by warringtonstokie on Jun 9, 2018 11:05:50 GMT
There are many reasons why his loan spells didn't work out too well. Alaves were obliged to pay a fee after so many appearances and money is scarce for Spanish clubs of that size. The Bundesliga just doesn't suit his type of play at all. Technically he is probably the best player on the books right now and deserves another chance, if that doesn't work out then so be it but he's given everything he can to the club in the past whereas other fan favourites haven't and get chance after chance.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jun 9, 2018 11:08:19 GMT
So I have been told this morning, he has already spoken to him at length on the phone and will meet him personally when he returns from holiday. Hope its true, I would love see Bojan in the Championship Based on what? The away game at Spurs, or every bit of evidence we've seen post Rochdale? We need to stop clinging to unrealistic hope on some of our players (see Berahino) and start backing and buying players that are cut out to get us back up. With all due respect WD, you can go fuck yourself right in the eye. Bojan will have his way with every team in that division and then I hope he has his way with my chocolate love tunnel. |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jun 9, 2018 11:10:06 GMT
How many times does it have to be pointed out that Bojan was in excellent form post Rochdale as part of the BMX side when Hughes got Stoke playing the best football since Waddington? Anyway I also think it's worth pointing out that the Championship is a lower level as such Bojan should piss it. Only briefly was he in excellent form. He never came close to consistently hitting the heights of before and he hasn’t on loan either. Hard to see Rowett, who is a pragmatist by all accounts, finding a place for him. Because he got fucking dropped by that old lesbian! |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jun 9, 2018 11:11:54 GMT
He wasn't doing bad against Rocdale, before he got injured. He was awful against Wolves in the cup. Will be interesting to see what Rowett can do with him. If he can get him fit and firing he's every inch our Vydra. He'd score a hatful. As was every single player in a red and white top. |
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Post by jeycov on Jun 9, 2018 11:15:21 GMT
GR is giving every player that wants to stay, the chance to prove and to impress
I think that it is very important to send out that message to both players and fans
Bojan, along with every player at the club needs this opportunity, like others, he may decide to move on
GR will also be very aware that most fans think highly of the player and having him back in the squad would be good for fans morale: as long as he is also wanted by fellow players (we don't know that)
If it doesn't work out, then at least the opportunity has been there
All players need to be managed with different approaches at the end of the day, GR will decide if it will work
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Post by ethers26 on Jun 9, 2018 11:16:08 GMT
Bojan would be a different gravy in the championship for any doubters.
His movement in the box will be wayyyy too good for most teams.
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Jun 9, 2018 11:24:19 GMT
If he fulfilled his true potential he would have literally been one of the best players in the world. Not that that necessarily means anything, but if he can get his head sorted and a bit of confidence in himself, he could be unbelievable in the championship.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 9, 2018 11:26:21 GMT
There are many reasons why his loan spells didn't work out too well. Alaves were obliged to pay a fee after so many appearances and money is scarce for Spanish clubs of that size. The Bundesliga just doesn't suit his type of play at all. Technically he is probably the best player on the books right now and deserves another chance, if that doesn't work out then so be it but he's given everything he can to the club in the past whereas other fan favourites haven't and get chance after chance. He did nothing for Alaves when he did play. If he’d been tearing it up for them it’d have been a lot less of an issue. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 9, 2018 11:26:55 GMT
Only briefly was he in excellent form. He never came close to consistently hitting the heights of before and he hasn’t on loan either. Hard to see Rowett, who is a pragmatist by all accounts, finding a place for him. Because he got fucking dropped by that old lesbian! Because he wasn’t doing anything really to be worth a place. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 9, 2018 11:29:19 GMT
If he is given the chance I hope he doesn't resemble a stray carrier bag floating about aimlessly in the wind because that's what I was watching with him at the end of his time here.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jun 9, 2018 11:32:17 GMT
Because he got fucking dropped by that old lesbian! Because he wasn’t doing anything really to be worth a place. I'm about 90% sure he scored then got dropped the next game (or the one after). |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 9, 2018 11:33:46 GMT
GR is giving every player that wants to stay, the chance to prove and to impress I think that it is very important to send out that message to both players and fans Bojan, along with every player at the club needs this opportunity, like others, he may decide to move on GR will also be very aware that most fans think highly of the player and having him back in the squad would be good for fans morale: as long as he is also wanted by fellow players (we don't know that) If it doesn't work out, then at least the opportunity has been there All players need to be managed with different approaches at the end of the day, GR will decide if it will work We can't afford to see if players 'work out'. We get one chance to see if we can get back up at the first time of asking and Rowett's focus should be entirely on that, nothing else. He shouldn't be hamstrung having to mop up somebody else's mess. Bojan, Berahino and Imbula have done nothing for two seasons to suggest there's any reason to go back to them now. If all three of them were on the books of (say) Swansea, there wouldn't be any clamour whatsoever on here for us to 'give them a try' and Rowett would be laughed at if he brought any one of them to the club. If any one of them had remotely shown anything of merit recently, then we would have been able to get rid of them but they haven't, there's a reason nobody wants them and we can't afford to allow that reason to hamstring our promotion push. Rowett doesn't have to worry about considering Wimmer because the club have done something about him, it's the club's responsibility to take care of the other three as well. |
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Post by skelman on Jun 9, 2018 11:33:55 GMT
There are many reasons why his loan spells didn't work out too well. Alaves were obliged to pay a fee after so many appearances and money is scarce for Spanish clubs of that size. The Bundesliga just doesn't suit his type of play at all. Technically he is probably the best player on the books right now and deserves another chance, if that doesn't work out then so be it but he's given everything he can to the club in the past whereas other fan favourites haven't and get chance after chance. Bojan has been in limbo land since Rochdale. At his best he was a terrific player for us but after injury his confidence had been hit and he was frequently too easily muscled off the ball. No-one can doubt his commitment to the club and he was prepared to return off loan when we were in deep shit and the games were drying up for Alves. Like Berahino and perhaps Imbula, the conversation between Bojan and GR is worth having. He's 27 and with full commitment and feeling as though he's a focal part of the squad, if he hits the targets GR sets for him and has a good pre season he could make a real contribution. He's 27, cost £3m and his wages will be way down on his previous £48,000 a week. We will need some flair to compliment the battering rams and Wolves, Cardiff and Fulham showed that last year. Add the right psychology to his package and he could be a key man |
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