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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 8, 2018 15:03:34 GMT
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Post by sneydgreenstokie1 on May 8, 2018 15:04:32 GMT
This is a half decent statement to be honest
Recognises a lot of the issues we see as fans
Lets hope this now becomes action
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Post by Clem Fandango on May 8, 2018 15:04:55 GMT
Nothing groundbreaking really although they did at least touch on a major rebuild job being required.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on May 8, 2018 15:04:58 GMT
"We will always give people that little bit longer than most to prove themselves and this will continue."
So Lambert's staying?
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 15:05:32 GMT
For fucks sake, they are going to keep Lambert 😡
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Post by PotterLog on May 8, 2018 15:06:14 GMT
tl;dr
It was Hughes' fault
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Post by giles on May 8, 2018 15:07:21 GMT
very honest and says exactly what fans want to hear (especially with the lack of mention of support for Lambert)
well done, now please act on it and redevelop this squad accordingly
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Post by dirtygary69 on May 8, 2018 15:08:12 GMT
"We will always give people that little bit longer than most to prove themselves and this will continue."So Lambert's staying? This is what I drew from it, personally. I suppose it might mean more in terms of Scholes, Cartwright and staff in general but I read it as Lambert will be staying. Which would be wank on a cataclysmic scale. |
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Post by Absolution on May 8, 2018 15:11:42 GMT
Another one of those all things to all men type statements that don’t really say anything. We give people more time means Lambert’s staying, but there’s no backing for the man so it means he’s going. Nothing to see here is probably the best way to look at this.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 8, 2018 15:12:50 GMT
Core values
Identity
Words that a year a go you couldn’t mention on here without being pounced upon🤔
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Post by scfcwebby on May 8, 2018 15:14:08 GMT
"We will always give people that little bit longer than most to prove themselves and this will continue."So Lambert's staying? This is what I drew from it, personally. I suppose it might mean more in terms of Scholes, Cartwright and staff in general but I read it as Lambert will be staying. Which would be wank on a cataclysmic scale. Need to ensure its perfectly clear what the fans think against Swansea He can't stay past the Swansea game surely? |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 15:14:20 GMT
They've said fuck all haven't they really
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 8, 2018 15:14:57 GMT
"We will always give people that little bit longer than most to prove themselves and this will continue."So Lambert's staying? This is what I drew from it, personally. I suppose it might mean more in terms of Scholes, Cartwright and staff in general but I read it as Lambert will be staying. Which would be wank on a cataclysmic scale. I don't read it that way at all. I take comfort from the fact that he made no mention of him whatsoever. As in 'we need to rebuild and we've got the right man at the helm to do that rebuilding'. No mention. He's toast. |
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Post by camstoke10 on May 8, 2018 15:15:36 GMT
This is what I drew from it, personally. I suppose it might mean more in terms of Scholes, Cartwright and staff in general but I read it as Lambert will be staying. Which would be wank on a cataclysmic scale. Need to ensure its perfectly clear what the fans think against Swansea He can't stay past the Swansea game surely? I don’t think singing is the answer I think a big sheet with lambert and the other two numpties out |
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Post by dirtygary69 on May 8, 2018 15:16:02 GMT
This is what I drew from it, personally. I suppose it might mean more in terms of Scholes, Cartwright and staff in general but I read it as Lambert will be staying. Which would be wank on a cataclysmic scale. I don't read it that way at all. I take comfort from the fact that he made no mention of him whatsoever. As in 'we need to rebuild and we've got the right man at the helm to do that rebuilding'. No mention. He's toast. Hope so. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 8, 2018 15:16:09 GMT
Surely the non mention of Lambert means he’s off?
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Post by christhepotter on May 8, 2018 15:16:12 GMT
All well and good admitting to their mistakes , but to keep Lambert is just carrying on the mistakes so they haven’t learned anything
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 15:17:19 GMT
This is what I drew from it, personally. I suppose it might mean more in terms of Scholes, Cartwright and staff in general but I read it as Lambert will be staying. Which would be wank on a cataclysmic scale. Need to ensure its perfectly clear what the fans think against Swansea He can't stay past the Swansea game surely? If they keep him then they have learned nothing from Hughes and that statement is just empty words. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 15:18:14 GMT
Loyalty isn't something you just pay to anybody though. Paul Lambert relegated this club - fact.
Mark Hughes oversaw our best period as a football club in years and there's an argument for him.
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Post by lordherefordsknob on May 8, 2018 15:18:25 GMT
Surely the non mention of Lambert means he’s off? I thought the same as well. |
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Post by leoncort on May 8, 2018 15:18:45 GMT
That's a good statement in my eyes, they recognise the failings of not sacking Hughes and signing players that lack the quality needed/core values required to challenge in the Premier league.
Overhaul suggests to me that it will be more than a few players leaving this summer, managers/board members too.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 8, 2018 15:19:54 GMT
Loyalty isn't something you just pay to somebody anybody though. Paul Lambert relegated this club - fact. Mark Hughes oversaw our best period as a football club in years and there's an argument for him. There’s no argument whatsoever on Hughes imo because he was at least 12 months past his sell by date |
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Post by scfcwebby on May 8, 2018 15:20:38 GMT
Need to ensure its perfectly clear what the fans think against Swansea He can't stay past the Swansea game surely? If they keep him then they have learned nothing from Hughes and that statement is just empty words. It does have a feeling of "tell them what they want to hear without being too committal" kind of statement |
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Post by mickstupp on May 8, 2018 15:20:41 GMT
For fucks sake, they are going to keep Lambert 😡 I read it completely differently. No mention of the manager and a recognition of a rebuilding job throughout. |
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Post by chigstoke on May 8, 2018 15:22:17 GMT
Surely the non mention of Lambert means he’s off? I thought the same as well. The lack of mention of his name suggests that but then "We will always give people that little bit longer than most to prove themselves and this will continue"Suggests he could be staying, of course it could also be in relation to the Pizza Boys. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on May 8, 2018 15:22:29 GMT
I'm not sure that it means Lambert is staying. The thing that stands out is that he is not mentioned by name. It would have been easy to finish the statement by saying that we will give Paul Lambert the backing he needs this summer to assemble a squad to give us a good chance of promotion. But they didn't say that.
Nor do I set a great deal of store by the comment a few weeks back that Lambert would be manager next season whatever league we were in. I can't imagine any club saying anything other than that so close to the end of the season until such point as either survival or relegation was a mathematical certainty. Any statements at that point in a season HAVE to put the manager's mind at rest so he can concentrate on the job in hand.
I suspect that a final decision been made. No doubt we will know what that decision is very soon after the Swansea game.
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Post by AstroTom on May 8, 2018 15:23:04 GMT
Reads to me that the best before end date on the pizza boys has expired that...
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 8, 2018 15:23:34 GMT
Surely the non mention of Lambert means he’s off? That's how I read it mate. I thought the omission of the managers name spoke volumes. |
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Post by Veritas on May 8, 2018 15:25:08 GMT
Loyalty isn't something you just pay to somebody anybody though. Paul Lambert relegated this club - fact. Mark Hughes oversaw our best period as a football club in years and there's an argument for him. There’s no argument whatsoever on Hughes imo because he was at least 12 months past his sell by date I may be splitting hairs but I would say Lambert failed to save the club rather than got us relegated which sits at the door of Hughes as manager, those responsible for the recruitment policy over the last two years which includes Hughes, and those who delayed firing Hughes. I think the policy of giving a manger time is right and should be maintained on this occasion it just went on for about eight months too long. |
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Post by flea79 on May 8, 2018 15:26:00 GMT
it says nothing, basically 3 points, we fucked up the transfers, we should have fucked Hughes off earlier, and we need to rebuild
the declaration of independence it is not
I remain convinced that nothing will change with an excuse about this being a transitional period in which we must avoid upheaval by getting rid of core management staff yet the lower down staff will be dispensed with very quickly to keep wages free for the men at the top
in fact its so full of hot air it could relaunch the hindenburg
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