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Post by Bagwash on May 8, 2018 16:17:12 GMT
Now match these decent words with decisive action. The first of which should be a thanks but no thanks to Paul Lambert. This would have been ample for me."We made mistakes,Lambert won't be in charge next season"
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 8, 2018 16:17:51 GMT
They've used a hell of a lot of words there when just, 'look suckers, we're fucking billionaires and have far more idea than any of you losers about anything. ALL THREE ARE STAYING so just suck it up or fuck off' Regards, Peter and Jon would have sufficed.
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Post by Miles Offside on May 8, 2018 16:18:08 GMT
Some fans will moan and lash out regardless of what the statement contains.
But I think it's realistic statement in the circumstances. It contained as much contrition as you could expect.
I certainly didn't expect them to name individuals who might/might not be for the chop, or say "sorry". They'll be sorry enough to see their club relegated and a year of the club's income down the pan on the wasters who barely kicked a ball for us.
There's encouragement there that they have the ambition to get us back up. They need to be judged now by their actions.
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Post by songthrush01 on May 8, 2018 16:20:33 GMT
the club is a joke.the owners are weak,but the main word for excuses from them was HINDSIGHT!2 years dickheads.
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Post by heworksardtho on May 8, 2018 16:20:36 GMT
We failed you all ..............
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Post by cheadlestokie on May 8, 2018 16:22:06 GMT
Have you heard he’s going? Nope but I'm convinced he is. Personally I don't need an apology from them,I just need them to be determined and fully focused in sorting out the mess we are in. It's going to be difficult to do so in just one transfer window and it depends somewhat which of the squad stay or go and as ever some success in the transfer window I would suggest pretty quickly and not waiting until the end of August.But also avoiding the knee jerk reaction some clubs make by just quickly bringing in quantity instead of quality. Depending on who stays we clearly need 2 strikers in any event, one winger and a playmaker in midfield. And please let us have signings with some pace. Other matters such as club discipline are something supporters cannot gauge and we have to rely on the bosses sending the right message from the off.Bringing in players who want to play for us and negotiate reasonably and not those who want to wait to see if anything comes along better before the end of the window would be a good starting point.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on May 8, 2018 16:26:12 GMT
I'm confident the owners will do what is necessary to get promotion if not next season then the season after.
The statement offers comfort that they are committed to that.
Mistakes happen. But I'd like to think that we go back to the manager identifying his own targets, with scouts out there to suggest potential signings.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 16:28:03 GMT
There's no doubt Hughes' management has caused some big problems and a rebuild would have been necessary this summer regardless. I believe we'd be doing it in the Premier League if he had stayed on though, which says more about how poor Lambert has been rather than rating Hughes. Almost to the end I was in favour of keeping Hughes until the summer and then changing as the best chance of staying up but feel he did end up like a rabbit in the headlights and it was only going to get worse, I am pretty sure we were dead in the water if he had stayed. With hindsight I now feelhe should have gone last summer but freely admit at the time felt he should stay however I was wrong like the board but we may still have saved the situation if we had acted earlier and had a better alternative than Lambert already lined up. He should have gone last summer, no doubt about it, though I still think he would have got the wins that were required to keep us up. Not an easy situation for Coates though because the atmosphere was far too toxic in January. There are a lot of variables at pinpointing who is to blame but short-term Lambert was an atrocious appointment and we were stupid to think otherwise.
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Post by WhyDelilah on May 8, 2018 16:29:23 GMT
"We will always give people that little bit longer than most to prove themselves and this will continue."So Lambert's staying? That's the line that jumped out. Oh Jesus......... He's already proved himself though. He's completely out of his depth.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 16:33:09 GMT
I'm confident the owners will do what is necessary to get promotion if not next season then the season after. The statement offers comfort that they are committed to that. Mistakes happen. But I'd like to think that we go back to the manager identifying his own targets, with scouts out there to suggest potential signings. That would be a big mistake. There is nothing wrong with a Technical Director as long as he is good at his job, and more importantly, in tune with the club, it's ethos and the first team manager. In modern football, the relationship between Club, Manager, Owner, Technical Director and ethos is becoming ever more important. Get it right and you are laughing. Get it wrong and you end up like us. It's not 1988 where you can just pick up the phone to your mate at Maidstone and drag a 20 a season striker up four divisions for a bag of footballs. It's big business, huge financial outlay and it needs to be done right. Let's hope this statement is a pre cursor to our problems getting sorted out.
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Post by lordherefordsknob on May 8, 2018 16:34:24 GMT
How do people get Lambert is staying from that?! It's just a general defence of how they like to run the club rather than hiring and firing managers willy nilly. Because there is no backing of him.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 8, 2018 16:35:57 GMT
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Post by Veritas on May 8, 2018 16:36:06 GMT
Almost to the end I was in favour of keeping Hughes until the summer and then changing as the best chance of staying up but feel he did end up like a rabbit in the headlights and it was only going to get worse, I am pretty sure we were dead in the water if he had stayed. With hindsight I now feelhe should have gone last summer but freely admit at the time felt he should stay however I was wrong like the board but we may still have saved the situation if we had acted earlier and had a better alternative than Lambert already lined up. He should have gone last summer, no doubt about it, though I still think he would have got the wins that were required to keep us up. Not an easy situation for Coates though because the atmosphere was far too toxic in January. There are a lot of variables at pinpointing who is to blame but short-term Lambert was an atrocious appointment and we were stupid to think otherwise. The cold reality says you are right
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Post by lordherefordsknob on May 8, 2018 16:36:38 GMT
Seems next Monday could be very interesting.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on May 8, 2018 16:36:56 GMT
I'm confident the owners will do what is necessary to get promotion if not next season then the season after. The statement offers comfort that they are committed to that. Mistakes happen. But I'd like to think that we go back to the manager identifying his own targets, with scouts out there to suggest potential signings. That would be a big mistake. There is nothing wrong with a Technical Director as long as he is good at his job, and more importantly, in tune with the club, it's ethos and the first team manager. In modern football, the relationship between Club, Manager, Owner, Technical Director and ethos is becoming ever more important. Get it right and you are laughing. Get it wrong and you end up like us. It's not 1988 where you can just pick up the phone to your mate at Maidstone and drag a 20 a season striker up four divisions for a bag of footballs. It's big business, huge financial outlay and it needs to be done right. Let's hope this statement is a pre cursor to our problems getting sorted out. No you are correct, spot on. I suppose what I would like is for the manager to be more involved in identifying targets and doing research into the player, to assess their suitability etc...as clearly mark Hughes couldn't be arsed
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Post by salopian on May 8, 2018 16:37:12 GMT
Did you expect Coates to come out and say that they’re going to turn into wreckless monkeys that sack the manager if they lose 3 in a row? The loyalty shown to managers and the considered decisions we make regards our manager are one of the biggest appeals for someone looking for a job. I still think Lambo will go following the Percy article.
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Post by tuum on May 8, 2018 16:37:45 GMT
Funny how Denise kept cropping up does she have more of a say all of sudden or i am reading to much into it. All I read from that was they are seeking to dispel the idea that Denise is anti SCFC. I don't see her being any more or less influential than she has been previously. It's not her baby. The statement was very clever and well drafted. It addressed the key concerns and provided re-assurance that things will change. It did not address directly the actions that will be taken to achieve their aims. I welcome the statement and am happy for the Coates family to make the decisions required...whether that is Lambert, Scholes or Cartwright leaving, all three or none of them. I am ok with all options.
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Post by chigstoke on May 8, 2018 16:40:27 GMT
God I hope Lambert is a goner. I so want to believe that the lack of mention of Lambert in the statement means he is toast
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 16:42:19 GMT
They've used a hell of a lot of words there when just, 'look suckers, we're fucking billionaires and have far more idea than any of you losers about anything. ALL THREE ARE STAYING so just suck it up or fuck off' Regards, Peter and Jon would have sufficed. To be fair you're not wrong with the sentiment however I think two heads will role PL and Cartwright are done and dusted.
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Post by Gary Hackett on May 8, 2018 16:46:01 GMT
Have you heard he’s going? Nope but I'm convinced he is. I'm not, I think Cartwright will go though.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 16:46:22 GMT
That's the line that jumped out. Oh Jesus......... He's already proved himself though. He's completely out of his depth. No mention of PL tells me 100% he will not be SCFC manager next month.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 16:48:49 GMT
Did they have much choice in this type of statement after the flack they have recieved from two senior players and the media.
I'm sure they are unhappy but if they remained silent after what been said it would seem like they don't care.
Anyway let's hope they are bold enough to get in a top manager with a proven record. One to inspire the fans and player
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Post by tuum on May 8, 2018 16:49:59 GMT
“We always give people that little bit longer to prove themselves”. In other words, we haven’t learned a sodding thing from this attitude being the reason we’re now in the Championship and will continue to operate in this braindead manner. It is not a braindead manner as you put it. It is the right thing to do. Hughes gave us 3no. 9th place finishes. He then finished 13th...a bad year. We all have them and 90% of us are given the opportunity to improve. There may have been an argument to get rid in Oct/Nov but it was really a 50:50 decision. In general,loyalty should be valued not ridiculed. They have made mistakes. They have acknowledged that fact. Let's wait and see how things pan out.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 16:52:05 GMT
The suggestion of "being more loyal than most" is clearly an admittance of failing to sack Leslie Mark Hughes sooner.
This is the most promising sign yet that we will not have to endure Paul Lambert for much longer. Thank Christ.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on May 8, 2018 16:54:04 GMT
Personally thought it was a great statement (apart from the loyalty bit that might leave the door open for Lambert), says all the right things, mistakes were made, significant overhaul required, committed emotionally and financially to the Club etc.
Fantastic start and if he backs up his words I'll be a lot more positive, can't fault that statement
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 8, 2018 16:54:36 GMT
The suggestion of "being more loyal than most" is clearly an admittance of failing to sack Leslie Mark Hughes sooner. This is the most promising sign yet that we will not have to endure Paul Lambert for much longer. Thank Christ. That's how I read it also.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on May 8, 2018 16:56:31 GMT
“We always give people that little bit longer to prove themselves”. In other words, we haven’t learned a sodding thing from this attitude being the reason we’re now in the Championship and will continue to operate in this braindead manner. It is not a braindead manner as you put it. It is the right thing to do. Hughes gave us 3no. 9th place finishes. He then finished 13th...a bad year. We all have them and 90% of us are given the opportunity to improve. There may have been an argument to get rid in Oct/Nov but it was really a 50:50 decision. In general,loyalty should be valued not ridiculed. They have made mistakes. They have acknowledged that fact. Let's wait and see how things pan out. In football too much loyalty costs you, as we’ve found out the hard way. It’s an admirable trait but in this sport, a fatal one if you take it too far.
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Post by dadger on May 8, 2018 17:00:22 GMT
Sack lambert Cartwright Scholes then and sack berahino because he’s in the news every other week about his personal life surely he’s in breach of contract? Make a statement that we won’t be messed about again
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Post by BristolMick on May 8, 2018 17:00:26 GMT
"We will always give people that little bit longer than most to prove themselves and this will continue."So Lambert's staying? That's the line that jumped out. Oh Jesus......... I don’t think that’s a hint about Lambert staying because there is not one person in the football world (outside of the club) that expects Lambert to stay after such an atrocious record over the 14 games. That statement might be directed at potential applicants. It is good that they’ve communicated. It says that they stuck with Hughes too long and that those responsible for recruitment have performed shambolicly. It says there will be wholesale changes but crucialy it doesn’t say Lambert is going to be here. Kevin Campbell has said that there is regime change coming and this with the prominent mentioning of Denise and John suggests that the younger members of the family are going to be much more involved. I will be utterly gobsmacked if Lambert is still our manager by this time next week. BM
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Post by dadger on May 8, 2018 17:00:36 GMT
Sack lambert Cartwright Scholes then and sack berahino because he’s in the news every other week about his personal life surely he’s in breach of contract? Make a statement that we won’t be messed about again
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