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Post by westgatelakes on May 2, 2018 10:28:17 GMT
A bit of a luxury perhaps but we`ve surely got to take a chance and play him from the start on Saturday ?
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Post by biglad180 on May 2, 2018 12:21:24 GMT
he as a good footballing brain if he could stay fit I would give him a 12 month extention. but as we know he is not a lambert favourite so he will be shipped out I think.
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Post by mattythestokie on May 2, 2018 12:43:02 GMT
Play him behind Diouf I say
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Post by Do it for dobing on May 2, 2018 13:26:01 GMT
Play him could be the match winner
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Post by lordb on May 2, 2018 13:32:18 GMT
Play him behind Diouf I say See the logic however the problem there is Diouf is at rock bottom right now.
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Post by Veritas on May 2, 2018 14:55:14 GMT
Play him behind Diouf I say Play him instead of Diouf I say
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Post by kev1060 on May 2, 2018 15:17:22 GMT
Yes would agree with you bro
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Post by crapslinger on May 2, 2018 16:19:10 GMT
Over the hill but not a jock not a chance he will start him.
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Post by spitthedog on May 2, 2018 19:20:38 GMT
If he could stay fit for 2 consecutive games he would be alright.
Suddenly he's become the Oatcake fave after 5 years of indifference.
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Post by johnnypotter on May 2, 2018 20:25:52 GMT
He has that extra technical quality which could make the difference in the next two crucial games.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 20:44:42 GMT
Its a pretty desperate state of affairs when people are actually suggesting this total and utter fucking waster i.e. Stephen Ireland could be our saviour I reckon hes contributed about as much to our cause as Jese Rodriguez in the last three years whilst, walking off with sackfuls of our clubs money AND H'es another one that would be in my fucking transit van with about a dozen other players, I'd happily drive from the ground to Stoke Station then, put him on a train - any train and say:- "fuck off - and dont come back to Stoke on Trent ever again" for, such 'non contact sports' drippy, injury prone, preening, overpaid, nancy boy wasters like him are part of our demise - never available
- never committed
- and could never give a running fuck about playing for our club
- and only done the hard yards recently to get himself fit at our expense to earn some more coin - somewhere else
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Post by banksisgod on May 2, 2018 21:09:22 GMT
"He's contributed as much as Jese...." It's a long time since I've heard such unadulterated shite from anyone, anywhere, let alone on this massage board. Ireland is an obsessive trainer - first in, last out - , never complains, came back from a career-threatening injury, and each time he gets an opportunity to get on the pitch, he makes a positive contribution. In a squad sadly lacking in guile and subtlety, he should be in the team every week as the false 9, and if that means playing Shaqiri out wide, then so be it.
Ireland should play in the last two games; he is as likely to score as he is to unlock a defence. Should we go down, and given that the family will close the wallet, and with Shaqiri gone, we should build our promotion-seeking team around him. I've seen Wes Hoolihan's name mentioned on here on various threads; Ireland is much, much better than him, and five years younger. Anyway, age is not a factor with players like Ireland, as he never had pace to lose. He always relied on technical ability and a quick brain.
Jesus, the thought that people on here are so out-of-touch or myopic as to compare him to a robbing fuck-wit like Jese really pisses me off.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 21:13:02 GMT
Its a pretty desperate state of affairs when people are actually suggesting this total and utter fucking waster i.e. Stephen Ireland could be our saviour I reckon hes contributed about as much to our cause as Jese Rodriguez in the last three years whilst, walking off with sackfuls of our clubs money AND H'es another one that would be in my fucking transit van with about a dozen other players, I'd happily drive from the ground to Stoke Station then, put him on a train - any train and say:- "fuck off - and dont come back to Stoke on Trent ever again" for, such 'non contact sports' drippy, injury prone, preening, overpaid, nancy boy wasters like him are part of our demise - never available
- never committed
- and could never give a running fuck about playing for our clubÂ
- and only done the hard yards recently to get himself fit at our expense to earn some more coin - somewhere elseÂ
That's pure horse-jizz, right there. Fucking hell.
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Post by lordb on May 2, 2018 21:19:38 GMT
Its a pretty desperate state of affairs when people are actually suggesting this total and utter fucking waster i.e. Stephen Ireland could be our saviour I reckon hes contributed about as much to our cause as Jese Rodriguez in the last three years whilst, walking off with sackfuls of our clubs money AND H'es another one that would be in my fucking transit van with about a dozen other players, I'd happily drive from the ground to Stoke Station then, put him on a train - any train and say:- "fuck off - and dont come back to Stoke on Trent ever again" for, such 'non contact sports' drippy, injury prone, preening, overpaid, nancy boy wasters like him are part of our demise - never available
- never committed
- and could never give a running fuck about playing for our clubÂ
- and only done the hard yards recently to get himself fit at our expense to earn some more coin - somewhere elseÂ
Easily your most inaccurate post. Utterly embarrassing.
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Post by lordb on May 2, 2018 21:21:42 GMT
"He's contributed as much as Jese...." It's a long time since I've heard such unadulterated shite from anyone, anywhere, let alone on this massage board. Ireland is an obsessive trainer - first in, last out - , never complains, came back from a career-threatening injury, and each time he gets an opportunity to get on the pitch, he makes a positive contribution. In a squad sadly lacking in guile and subtlety, he should be in the team every week as the false 9, and if that means playing Shaqiri out wide, then so be it. Ireland should play in the last two games; he is as likely to score as he is to unlock a defence. Should we go down, and given that the family will close the wallet, and with Shaqiri gone, we should build our promotion-seeking team around him. I've seen Wes Hoolihan's name mentioned on here on various threads; Ireland is much, much better than him, and five years younger. Anyway, age is not a factor with players like Ireland, as he never had pace to lose. He always relied on technical ability and a quick brain. Jesus, the thought that people on here are so out-of-touch or myopic as to compare him to a robbing fuck-wit like Jese really pisses me off. Spot in. The comparison with Hoolihan was simply to illustrate the point that Lambert has regularly played a creative 'lightweight' player behind a striker before.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 2, 2018 21:40:33 GMT
Its a pretty desperate state of affairs when people are actually suggesting this total and utter fucking waster i.e. Stephen Ireland could be our saviour I reckon hes contributed about as much to our cause as Jese Rodriguez in the last three years whilst, walking off with sackfuls of our clubs money AND H'es another one that would be in my fucking transit van with about a dozen other players, I'd happily drive from the ground to Stoke Station then, put him on a train - any train and say:- "fuck off - and dont come back to Stoke on Trent ever again" for, such 'non contact sports' drippy, injury prone, preening, overpaid, nancy boy wasters like him are part of our demise - never available
- never committed
- and could never give a running fuck about playing for our club
- and only done the hard yards recently to get himself fit at our expense to earn some more coin - somewhere else
Yeah what a waster, couldn’t even shake off a horrific leg break that kept him out of football for 18 months to contribute to the cause.
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Post by banksisgod on May 2, 2018 21:43:44 GMT
Fair enough. All we need now, therefore, is for Lambert to get over himself and his personal issues with Ireland, and play him. If he regularly got a tune out of Hoolihan, surely he can do the same with a better version, which Ireland most definitely is.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on May 2, 2018 21:46:23 GMT
Its a pretty desperate state of affairs when people are actually suggesting this total and utter fucking waster i.e. Stephen Ireland could be our saviour I reckon hes contributed about as much to our cause as Jese Rodriguez in the last three years whilst, walking off with sackfuls of our clubs money AND H'es another one that would be in my fucking transit van with about a dozen other players, I'd happily drive from the ground to Stoke Station then, put him on a train - any train and say:- "fuck off - and dont come back to Stoke on Trent ever again" for, such 'non contact sports' drippy, injury prone, preening, overpaid, nancy boy wasters like him are part of our demise - never available
- never committed
- and could never give a running fuck about playing for our clubÂ
- and only done the hard yards recently to get himself fit at our expense to earn some more coin - somewhere elseÂ
Do some research before posting such utter drivel or are you just looking for attention. Many people would have given up and retired after suffering some of the injuries he did. I admire his dedication and determination and hope he's around next year to bring some badly needed quality to the squad. If only Jesé had a fraction of Irelands professionalism
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Post by Gods on May 2, 2018 21:46:56 GMT
"He's contributed as much as Jese...." It's a long time since I've heard such unadulterated shite from anyone, anywhere, let alone on this massage board. Ireland is an obsessive trainer - first in, last out - , never complains, came back from a career-threatening injury, and each time he gets an opportunity to get on the pitch, he makes a positive contribution. In a squad sadly lacking in guile and subtlety, he should be in the team every week as the false 9, and if that means playing Shaqiri out wide, then so be it. Ireland should play in the last two games; he is as likely to score as he is to unlock a defence. Should we go down, and given that the family will close the wallet, and with Shaqiri gone, we should build our promotion-seeking team around him. I've seen Wes Hoolihan's name mentioned on here on various threads; Ireland is much, much better than him, and five years younger. Anyway, age is not a factor with players like Ireland, as he never had pace to lose. He always relied on technical ability and a quick brain. Jesus, the thought that people on here are so out-of-touch or myopic as to compare him to a robbing fuck-wit like Jese really pisses me off. Considering he has scored precisely zero goals for Stoke City since he signed permanently 4 years ago in 2014 I think you may be slightly overselling him there
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 22:17:36 GMT
"He's contributed as much as Jese...." It's a long time since I've heard such unadulterated shite from anyone, anywhere, let alone on this massage board. Ireland is an obsessive trainer - first in, last out - , never complains, came back from a career-threatening injury, and each time he gets an opportunity to get on the pitch, he makes a positive contribution. In a squad sadly lacking in guile and subtlety, he should be in the team every week as the false 9, and if that means playing Shaqiri out wide, then so be it. Ireland should play in the last two games; he is as likely to score as he is to unlock a defence. Should we go down, and given that the family will close the wallet, and with Shaqiri gone, we should build our promotion-seeking team around him. I've seen Wes Hoolihan's name mentioned on here on various threads; Ireland is much, much better than him, and five years younger. Anyway, age is not a factor with players like Ireland, as he never had pace to lose. He always relied on technical ability and a quick brain. Jesus, the thought that people on here are so out-of-touch or myopic as to compare him to a robbing fuck-wit like Jese really pisses me off. Considering he has scored precisely zero goals for Stoke City since he signed permanently 4 years ago in 2014 I think you may be slightly overselling him there Goals aren't important. 😉
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 2, 2018 22:17:36 GMT
"He's contributed as much as Jese...." It's a long time since I've heard such unadulterated shite from anyone, anywhere, let alone on this massage board. Ireland is an obsessive trainer - first in, last out - , never complains, came back from a career-threatening injury, and each time he gets an opportunity to get on the pitch, he makes a positive contribution. In a squad sadly lacking in guile and subtlety, he should be in the team every week as the false 9, and if that means playing Shaqiri out wide, then so be it. Ireland should play in the last two games; he is as likely to score as he is to unlock a defence. Should we go down, and given that the family will close the wallet, and with Shaqiri gone, we should build our promotion-seeking team around him. I've seen Wes Hoolihan's name mentioned on here on various threads; Ireland is much, much better than him, and five years younger. Anyway, age is not a factor with players like Ireland, as he never had pace to lose. He always relied on technical ability and a quick brain. Jesus, the thought that people on here are so out-of-touch or myopic as to compare him to a robbing fuck-wit like Jese really pisses me off. Considering he has scored precisely zero goals for Stoke City since he signed permanently 4 years ago in 2014 I think you may be slightly overselling him there Ireland? He's scored goals for us.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on May 2, 2018 22:18:58 GMT
Fair enough. All we need now, therefore, is for Lambert to get over himself and his personal issues with Ireland, and play him. If he regularly got a tune out of Hoolihan, surely he can do the same with a better version, which Ireland most definitely is. Lambert has certainly shown a ruthless streak - Jesse, Berahino, Afellay - but if he'd crossed over to vindictive Ireland wouldn't even be on the bench, I'd like to see Ireland play more - he has that bit of quality to unlock a defence - but I think in this case its a rehabilitation problem rather than an issue with the manager.
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Post by Gods on May 2, 2018 22:45:09 GMT
Considering he has scored precisely zero goals for Stoke City since he signed permanently 4 years ago in 2014 I think you may be slightly overselling him there Ireland? He's scored goals for us. According to soccer base he is 7 (6 sub) 2 goals with us during his short loan spell in 2013. Since he signed permanently in January 2014 he is 19 (26 sub) 0 goals That's league goals. I think he may have scored in the FA Cup.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 2, 2018 22:47:13 GMT
Ireland? He's scored goals for us. According to soccer base he is 7 (6 sub) 2 goals with us during his short loan spell in 2013. Since he signed permanently in January 2014 he is 19 (26 sub) 0 goals That's league goals. I think he may have scored in the FA Cup. Ah! I'm with you. He did score in the cup yeah.
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Post by banksisgod on May 2, 2018 22:48:35 GMT
mmmm, I'm not sure about that. When you consider the lack of attacking options that we have, coupled with the impact that Ireland had when he got decent playing time against the Shit, (a better side than the two we are about to meet) does it not make you wonder how Lambert can't make room for him at this critical time? Surely he's as aware as the rest of us that, although we are fitter, and more organised than before, we have won precisely ONE game since he arrived.
We have a lot of players who are very similar, most of whom are inter-changeable. What they also have in common is a complete inability to surprise. I've watch Ireland for years, back to when he was winning player-of-the-year awards at City. Back then, he had something very different - he was like a modern day Martin Peters - in that he ghosted around the place, and had an innate ability to find small pockets of space, and use it brilliantly. Furthermore, he always took responsibility, and tried to do something positive.
You don't ever lose that. He has to play against Palace.
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Post by Gods on May 2, 2018 23:12:13 GMT
According to soccer base he is 7 (6 sub) 2 goals with us during his short loan spell in 2013. Since he signed permanently in January 2014 he is 19 (26 sub) 0 goals That's league goals. I think he may have scored in the FA Cup. Ah! I'm with you. He did score in the cup yeah. 2 against Wrexham and 1 in the next round against Rochdale. His last league goal was when he was with us on loan in November 2013 in the 3-3 draw at Swansea when a Charlie Adam penalty in injury time salvaged a point for us. You'd have traded it for the miss against Brighton in retrospect wouldn't you?! To show you how long ago that was Palacios started for us that day and Matty Etherington came on as a sub! I'm not saying he's not worth a go and I like him as a player but I'm not convinced there is a goal scorer in there, if there is he's kept it well hidden for 5 years.
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Post by banksisgod on May 2, 2018 23:39:08 GMT
Jesus Christ, even if he still had the compound leg fracture, Ireland is still be a better option than someone like Fletcher or Adam, both of whose legs are completely gone.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 3, 2018 0:06:56 GMT
Ah! I'm with you. He did score in the cup yeah. 2 against Wrexham and 1 in the next round against Rochdale. His last league goal was when he was with us on loan in November 2013 in the 3-3 draw at Swansea when a Charlie Adam penalty in injury time salvaged a point for us. You'd have traded it for the miss against Bright in retrospect wouldn't you?! To show you how long ago that was Palacios started for us that day and Matty Etherington came on as a sub! I'm not saying he's not worth a go and I like him as a player but I'm not convinced there is a goal scorer in there, if there is he's kept it well hidden for 5 years. I'm surprised it's been long tbh! And originally didn't factor in the loan. I'd play him though. I think he's something a bit different. And hoofing to Crouch to lose yet another header is wearing thin, that's a lie, it wore thin in 2013.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 3, 2018 0:35:05 GMT
Lambert will put his personal feeling about certain players first before what is right for the club.
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Post by kustokie on May 3, 2018 0:59:24 GMT
There’s a strange phenomenon at play here where some fans are fantasizing about the abilty of players who have hardly been playing to raise the team from the dead. Not long ago, everyone was begging for Diouf to start up front instead on the wing or sitting on the bench. Look how that turned out. Same with Crouch who has only scored for a long time when coming off the bench. Now people are calling for Adam to start and even Ireland, or God forbid, Shaqiri to play up front. We have several good players that are too good for the Premier League playing in a team that is a shambles and will struggle in the Championship. Hughes has a lot to answer for.
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