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Post by jarvinski on Apr 25, 2018 16:34:58 GMT
Cartwright to be honest only gives the manager options, it was the welsh bastard who signed these morons....FACT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 16:59:11 GMT
I'm just wondering: if there's an age limit on a player being at their peak and then past it why not for chairman? 🤔
Smacks of ungratefulness I know but look where loyalty got us for two seasons
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 25, 2018 17:07:31 GMT
That's a very good point CW. And simply smacks of Coates attempting to pull the wool over everybody elses eyes. The bit I don't get is ... why do it? Or can he genuinely not see it? Which is probably even worse. There was a reason the ultra keen spurs dropped the chase for berahino, and it wasn’t the fee. They have a ‘technical director’ that actually did a bit of fact finding. It’s as simple as that, we have people at the club out of their depth/inept at their roles. Your first sentence is as untrue as your second is bang on the money.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Apr 25, 2018 17:52:58 GMT
The squad will have to undergo a dramatic overhaul in the summer in order to be competitive in the Championship (with all of our best players abandoning ship).
The idea of Lambert overseeing that overhaul fills me with dread if I am being honest.
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Post by maliciousdamage on Apr 25, 2018 17:58:45 GMT
If you want to call it that, but if you're a Manager and you give a lsit in with 5 strikers and they come back and say its a 'no' from 1-5 we can't get them but we can get you "this bloke" he's got potential, one time England under 23 etc etc blah blah. You need a striker so you say ok or you say this is shit I've told you I need my top targets I'm out of here, out of work and with no pay off for quitting instead of being sacked. I'm saying Hughes just got fed up post Shaquiri of them not getting his top targets to improve and push on and 'went with the flow' 'made do with what he had' which is now clear wasn't good enough, I'm not excusing Hughes for his tactics and decisions in the latter part of his reign though he should have had more conviction and pushed for better. The only way we'll ever know the truth though is if Hughes or someone else leaving the club blows the lid of it!!! What if it was the other way round. What if Cartwriight said I've got a list of five strikers that are willing to sign and Hughes said no I'm only interested in Berihino. See I can make shit up as well. Why would Hughes then dismiss Berahino in a press conference making himself look stupid, it wouldn’t make sense
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Post by maliciousdamage on Apr 25, 2018 18:01:26 GMT
If you want to call it that, but if you're a Manager and you give a lsit in with 5 strikers and they come back and say its a 'no' from 1-5 we can't get them but we can get you "this bloke" he's got potential, one time England under 23 etc etc blah blah. You need a striker so you say ok or you say this is shit I've told you I need my top targets I'm out of here, out of work and with no pay off for quitting instead of being sacked. I'm saying Hughes just got fed up post Shaquiri of them not getting his top targets to improve and push on and 'went with the flow' 'made do with what he had' which is now clear wasn't good enough, I'm not excusing Hughes for his tactics and decisions in the latter part of his reign though he should have had more conviction and pushed for better. The only way we'll ever know the truth though is if Hughes or someone else leaving the club blows the lid of it!!! We chased Berahino for THREE windows, offering £20 million for him in the first window that we tried, you don't pursue a player to that extent if your manager doesn't want him. If we did do, then we might as well all go home now because the Marx Brothers would make a better fist of it all. They might have been telling Hughes they were also chasing his targets only to end up with Berahino because he was the ‘cheapest’ come on the whole season smacks of penny pinching by the board along with dithering about over what to do next, gone was the talk of next level and progression to Europe because they saw it would cost the some money!
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Post by maliciousdamage on Apr 25, 2018 18:03:16 GMT
If you want to call it that, but if you're a Manager and you give a lsit in with 5 strikers and they come back and say its a 'no' from 1-5 we can't get them but we can get you "this bloke" he's got potential, one time England under 23 etc etc blah blah. You need a striker so you say ok or you say this is shit I've told you I need my top targets I'm out of here, out of work and with no pay off for quitting instead of being sacked. I'm saying Hughes just got fed up post Shaquiri of them not getting his top targets to improve and push on and 'went with the flow' 'made do with what he had' which is now clear wasn't good enough, I'm not excusing Hughes for his tactics and decisions in the latter part of his reign though he should have had more conviction and pushed for better. The only way we'll ever know the truth though is if Hughes or someone else leaving the club blows the lid of it!!! So you're saying that Hughes had no input into transfers beyond the list put in front of him? Behave yourself. That isn't how it works. No I’m saying he was actively putting people forward but the board are in willing to pay the money for better targets when they can ‘shop’ for cheap
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 18:14:35 GMT
If Lambert does go, it will be interesting to see who the club go for and how much they are prepared to back him.
Any idea's on both?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 18:16:17 GMT
If Lambert does go, it will be interesting to see who the club go for and how much they are prepared to back him. Any idea's on both? The sad thing is, they could and probably would find a worse replacement.
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Post by FrankButcher on Apr 25, 2018 18:22:05 GMT
If Lambert does go, it will be interesting to see who the club go for and how much they are prepared to back him. Any idea's on both? Depends who becomes available, if say David Moyes or a Sam Allardyce become available or even go back in for QSF or a Marco Silva and that sort of manager can be persuaded to drop into the championship and be backed by the board then it could be tempting to pull the trigger. A statement of ambition and intent with the right appointment could well attract the players needed to mount a serious promotion challenge next season.
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 25, 2018 19:03:54 GMT
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Post by Dr Hesham on Apr 25, 2018 19:06:35 GMT
I didn't imagine there is a manager worse than Hughes until I watched Lambert management.
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Post by Dave the Rave on Apr 25, 2018 19:09:04 GMT
A great job? It's fan-fucking-tastic for you isn't it Paul?
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Post by cousindupree on Apr 25, 2018 19:19:40 GMT
The thought of Lambert rebuilding the squad truly sends a shiver down my spine. A combination of Cartwright and Lambert will deliver us some of the most uninspiring freebies and loanee journeymen imaginable.
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Post by Godo on Apr 25, 2018 19:21:23 GMT
I am now even more worried about next season than I was before!! Clearly Coates can't see the full range of the problems at the club or accept any responsibility himself. And does he even know how Sturridge's season ended up?? Still at this rate eventually we'll be playing at a low enough level that the fat useless prick Cartwright might be qualified to be operating at!! We tried (but failed obviously) to sign 2 very injury prone strikers on loan as the way to salvage our premiership status and that was the master plan? The club is run like a fucking joke shop.
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Post by delilahismymum on Apr 25, 2018 19:23:00 GMT
The worry is that Coates has not learnt a single thing this season.
His loyalty towards a failing manager I.e. Hughes is to be loyal to the next failing manager.
We will be doing a Sunderland at this rate, and Lambert may still be in his job when that happens.
We should be forever grateful to the Coates family for what they have done for our club, but it’s starting to look like Peter has lost it and needs to go. Maybe it’s time for new ownership and some fresh approaches to how the club is ran.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 25, 2018 19:26:14 GMT
We chased Berahino for THREE windows, offering £20 million for him in the first window that we tried, you don't pursue a player to that extent if your manager doesn't want him. If we did do, then we might as well all go home now because the Marx Brothers would make a better fist of it all. They might have been telling Hughes they were also chasing his targets only to end up with Berahino because he was the ‘cheapest’ come on the whole season smacks of penny pinching by the board along with dithering about over what to do next, gone was the talk of next level and progression to Europe because they saw it would cost the some money! Why are you so convinced he wasn’t a Hughes target? If Hughes didn’t want him do you think Coates would’ve sanctioned a bid of £20m for him?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 20:00:53 GMT
I know Lambert is an absolutely toss manager but for some reason I've got a really funny feeling he will do well next season.
Don't ask me to explain why I think he will but I just think he will.
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Post by cousindupree on Apr 25, 2018 20:17:03 GMT
I know Lambert is an absolutely toss manager but for some reason I've got a really funny feeling he will do well next season. Don't ask me to explain why I think he will but I just think he will. Do you remember the binary season? I feckin do painfully. Look at our goals scored since Lambert has been here. We haven't scored more than one goal now for 10 games. That's what will be on offer next season and seemingly the season after until his contract expires.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 20:21:51 GMT
I know Lambert is an absolutely toss manager but for some reason I've got a really funny feeling he will do well next season. Don't ask me to explain why I think he will but I just think he will. Do you remember the binary season? I feckin do painfully. Look at our goals scored since Lambert has been here. We haven't scored more than one goal now for 10 games. That's what will be on offer next season and seemingly the season after until his contract expires. Yes it stopped me from buying a season ticket the following season. Everything is telling me he's a wank manager and Coates is an absolute buffoon for keeping him bit I've got this irrational feeling that he will get us back up. If I were in charge of SCFC I wouldn't have employed him in the first place and if I'd just taken over SCFC I'd sack him tomorrow, so like I said don't ask me to try and explain why I have this feeling but I just do.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 20:25:06 GMT
Do you remember the binary season? I feckin do painfully. Look at our goals scored since Lambert has been here. We haven't scored more than one goal now for 10 games. That's what will be on offer next season and seemingly the season after until his contract expires. Yes it stopped me from buying a season ticket the following season. Everything is telling me he's a wank manager and Coates is an absolute buffoon for keeping him bit I've got this irrational feeling that he will get us back up. If I were in charge of SCFC I wouldn't have employed him in the first place and if I'd just taken over SCFC I'd sack him tomorrow, so like I said don't ask me to try and explain why I have this feeling but I just do. No manager will get us back up next season. We have far too many players to replace, what with loanees returning, players leaving and the books to balance. The most realistic season to push back, I reckon, will be the third season down. This will be a LOT harder than people are suggesting. It will be a really hard job at this club over the next few years.
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Post by Gob Bluth on Apr 25, 2018 20:28:22 GMT
If you made me choose I think I'd go for Lambert over Hughes, Lambert's try harder and are more mobile. I do have major reservations that he'll be able to get us promoted based on what I've seen so far. My main annoyance is with the board who don't seem to have learnt the one lesson of the season. I wanted us to keep Hughes while many on here wanted to get rid, you were all right I was wrong. I'm now looking at this situation wondering why we're looking to make the same mistake in less than 4 months.
If Lambert is unable to win when he has Shaq, Joe Allen and Butland what's he going to do without them. I'm also really worried about his love for Mama upfront, we've seen much more of this than Lambert has and I refuse to believe Mama can get 20 goals in the Championship, which is what we could do with.
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Post by stokierich on Apr 25, 2018 20:29:18 GMT
A year ago today, Wolves lost at home for the 11th time in the Championship - their third dire home game in a row without scoring - 16th in the table. This Saturday, they’ll lift the league trophy. How quickly times can change in football. Guess who the manager was
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Post by Gob Bluth on Apr 25, 2018 20:31:45 GMT
Re Cartwright I would love the board to explain who's responsible for which transfer. With our current situation I'm more worried about Scholes and his inability to get value for sales as I am with Cartwright landing the right players.
Scholes' line of 'what can we do, the player wants to leave.' will be rolled out regularly as we accept 30% below market value.
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 25, 2018 20:35:26 GMT
A year ago today, Wolves lost at home for the 11th time in the Championship - their third dire home game in a row without scoring - 16th in the table. This Saturday, they’ll lift the league trophy. How quickly times can change in football. Guess who the manager was Just seen that - not a fan, is she? The double whammy of relegation plus knowing Lambo's overseeing the rebuild is incredibly hard to take. Relegation with a fresh bloke in charge would have been far more bearable. Lambo enthuses me about as much as a wet winter Wednesday in Skegness.
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Post by FrankButcher on Apr 25, 2018 20:36:19 GMT
Yes it stopped me from buying a season ticket the following season. Everything is telling me he's a wank manager and Coates is an absolute buffoon for keeping him bit I've got this irrational feeling that he will get us back up. If I were in charge of SCFC I wouldn't have employed him in the first place and if I'd just taken over SCFC I'd sack him tomorrow, so like I said don't ask me to try and explain why I have this feeling but I just do. No manager will get us back up next season. We have far too many players to replace, what with loanees returning, players leaving and the books to balance. The most realistic season to push back, I reckon, will be the third season down. This will be a LOT harder than people are suggesting. It will be a really hard job at this club over the next few years. My fear is exactly this that we'll look at free transfers and loans and balance the books in the process while trying to compete in such a tough league the prospect of the likes of Millwall away on a Tuesday night doesn't fill me with much hope next season we'll be languishing mid table in my opinion but we won't be as bad as Sunderland though.
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Post by stokemark on Apr 25, 2018 20:44:59 GMT
The thought of Lambert rebuilding the squad truly sends a shiver down my spine. A combination of Cartwright and Lambert will deliver us some of the most uninspiring freebies and loanee journeymen imaginable. It's fucking madness to entrust this goon Coates really has lost the plot
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Post by stokierich on Apr 25, 2018 20:50:57 GMT
A year ago today, Wolves lost at home for the 11th time in the Championship - their third dire home game in a row without scoring - 16th in the table. This Saturday, they’ll lift the league trophy. How quickly times can change in football. Guess who the manager was Just seen that - not a fan, is she? The double whammy of relegation plus knowing Lambo's overseeing the rebuild is incredibly hard to take. Relegation with a fresh bloke in charge would have been far more bearable. Lambo enthuses me about as much as a wet winter Wednesday in Skegness. Such depressing reading. Shes spot on, even now you can see how we play with no plan in possession its awful to watch. Horrible to think we have to put up with him next season. Just praying Peter Coates sees the light once relegation is confirmed.
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Post by musik on Apr 25, 2018 20:59:39 GMT
Hellu!
"The rebuilding will be massive for this football club on AND off the pitch", Paul Lambert says.
Ok. Let him try! We don't even know what players he wants to get. I have a certain feeling he wants more discipline and doesn't give a shit what the player's name is. That's good!
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Post by FrankButcher on Apr 25, 2018 21:03:34 GMT
Just seen that - not a fan, is she? The double whammy of relegation plus knowing Lambo's overseeing the rebuild is incredibly hard to take. Relegation with a fresh bloke in charge would have been far more bearable. Lambo enthuses me about as much as a wet winter Wednesday in Skegness. Such depressing reading. Shes spot on, even now you can see how we play with no plan in possession its awful to watch. Horrible to think we have to put up with him next season. Just praying Peter Coates sees the light once relegation is confirmed. Any other chairman in coates position wouldn't of touched Lambert just by looking at his previous jobs and gaining a reference from the wolves owner my god it just shows how desperate they were to get a manager in.
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