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Post by caine on Apr 15, 2018 8:41:57 GMT
Now I’m not condemning this but if we lose Monday we are almost certainly down if not already. The atmosphere will be interesting to see what reaction Coates and the board get. Personally I hold the board and Coates equally responsible if not more responsible for the position we are in. Lack of signings and poor recruitment has resulted in this situation as well as other managerial decisions. I kind of hope they do receive some abuse seeing as Hughes got a lot of flack but for some reason the above have gone under the radar!. Bored of hearing Coates excuses regarding luck. It’s about time he come out and say we fucked up!!
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Post by sportsman on Apr 15, 2018 8:48:49 GMT
Now I’m not condemning this but if we lose Monday we are almost certainly down if not already. The atmosphere will be interesting to see what reaction Coates and the board get. Personally I hold the board and Coates equally responsible if not more responsible for the position we are in. Lack of signings and poor recruitment has resulted in this situation as well as other managerial decisions. I kind of hope they do receive some abuse seeing as Hughes got a lot of flack but for some reason the above have gone under the radar!. Bored of hearing Coates excuses regarding luck. It’s about time he come out and say we fucked up!! The day we give Coates any stick, even if he's made mistakes, is the day we should pack it all in. If anyone did they should be ashamed. |
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Post by biglad180 on Apr 15, 2018 8:52:48 GMT
don't know how anyone can abuse Coates. Scholes yes . cartright yes. Coates and his money will get us back up. yes is money not some foreign fuckers using clubs as playthings ie ruining the game
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Post by caine on Apr 15, 2018 9:05:08 GMT
don't know how anyone can abuse Coates. Scholes yes . cartright yes. Coates and his money will get us back up. yes is money not some foreign fuckers using clubs as playthings ie ruining the game What money 50m net spend in 5 years? I’m grateful for what he’s done but even he has messed up this season. He sacked Hughes to late and appointment a championship manager. We can’t go out the prem quietly without a whimper of discontent with the chairman and board. It’s embarrassing that Brighton and Huddersfield are staying up and we are surrendering our nearly 10 year prem status! |
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Post by shrewspotter on Apr 15, 2018 9:05:32 GMT
I'd never abuse Coates, on the contrary I will be eternally grateful for what he has done. Sure he's made mistakes but how me a man that hasn't
As for Cartwright and Scholes then they should pay however with their jobs
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 15, 2018 9:08:55 GMT
Coates shouldn't get abuse.
But he does deserve criticism.
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Post by Dave the Rave on Apr 15, 2018 9:10:37 GMT
Condoning.
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Post by caine on Apr 15, 2018 9:14:38 GMT
Coates shouldn't get abuse. But he does deserve criticism. Criticism/ abuse at the ground in forms of a chant or flag is the same thing only way we voice our opinion. He’s hardly gonna come on a local radio and answer the fans opinions when we get relegated. He will go into hiding until next season! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 9:14:48 GMT
Abuse of that nature is an antiquated form of primitivism and hooliganism. Only morons would condone it.
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Post by caine on Apr 15, 2018 9:16:09 GMT
Abuse of that nature is an antiquated form of primitivism and hooliganism. Only morons would condone it. That’s all good and well but I bet you were one of the fans booing Hughes and singing Hughes out. |
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Post by Cast no shadow on Apr 15, 2018 9:16:29 GMT
An acknowledgment from coates of his errors for starters, ship out cartwright scholes and lambert. His stubborness would spell trouble for the club.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 15, 2018 9:16:48 GMT
Coates has been good for the club. We’re not big spenders but we’ve spent enough not to be in the mess we are.
He now has to show he has his finger on the pulse and sack those he pays to run the club namely Scholes and Cartwright. Do that and we’ll be going in the right direction again. Fail and he only has himself to blame if things get worse and supporters start staying away (I won’t).
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 15, 2018 9:16:55 GMT
Coates shouldn't get abuse. But he does deserve criticism. Criticism/ abuse at the ground in forms of a chant or flag is the same thing only way we voice our opinion. He’s hardly gonna come on a local radio and answer the fans opinions when we get relegated. He will go into hiding until next season! I don't think he will. He loves the sound of his voice, he'll be on Radio Stoke spouting shite as he does. |
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Post by caine on Apr 15, 2018 9:17:14 GMT
An acknowledgment from coates, ship out cartwright scholes and lambert. His stubborness would spell trouble for the club. Only way to put this right but I fear it won’t happen |
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Post by shrewspotter on Apr 15, 2018 9:22:20 GMT
Scholes has been good for the club. We’re not big spenders but we’ve spent enough not to be in the mess we are. He now has to show he has his finger on the pulse and sack those he pays to run the club namely Scholes and Cartwright. Do that and we’ll be going in the right direction again. Fail and he only has himself to blame if things get worse and supporters start staying away (I won’t). presume you mean Coates has been good??? Was gonna give you a digital slap then |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 9:23:50 GMT
Abuse of that nature is an antiquated form of primitivism and hooliganism. Only morons would condone it. That’s all good and well but I bet you were one of the fans booing Hughes and singing Hughes out. If you looked thru my past messages you would see that I supported him right through till the night he was sacked. Whereas at the end of last season I did call for his dismisssal (but I wasn't doing it here but at the Sentinel), But when he stayed I continued to support him, as anything else is not constructive and hurts the team. |
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Post by britvic72 on Apr 15, 2018 9:24:56 GMT
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Apr 15, 2018 9:28:56 GMT
Coates shouldn't get abuse. But he does deserve criticism. Criticism/ abuse at the ground in forms of a chant or flag is the same thing only way we voice our opinion. He’s hardly gonna come on a local radio and answer the fans opinions when we get relegated. He will go into hiding until next season! That's utter codswallop fella. There's a whole world of difference between criticism on here of his shortsightedness and parsimony than chanting abuse and waving banners at football matches. We all know how that tends to end up. If we have any chance of coming back up any time soon we need a re-focused Peter Coates. Yes he needs to acknowledge the mistakes he and his hired hands have made and yes that ought to mean the bullet for at least one if not both but don't tell me he doesn't know what all the fuss was about really in his heart of hearts. But if we piss Peter off again, and more to the point if we piss Denise off, like I'm told she was after the 'directors box storming episode', we may be in for another 23 years or more of stagnation. |
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Post by caine on Apr 15, 2018 9:30:36 GMT
Scholes has been good for the club. We’re not big spenders but we’ve spent enough not to be in the mess we are. He now has to show he has his finger on the pulse and sack those he pays to run the club namely Scholes and Cartwright. Do that and we’ll be going in the right direction again. Fail and he only has himself to blame if things get worse and supporters start staying away (I won’t). presume you mean Coates has been good??? Was gonna give you a digital slap then Do you hand on heart think that will happen? Will be his only reprieve I hope he gets rid of them both. Don’t mind Lambert staying but wouldn’t be surprised to see fresh blood either but I also think he was given the job for a reason I.e the championship |
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Post by walton corner on Apr 15, 2018 9:31:04 GMT
We are a small -medium club was going to happen sooner rather than later that's football ....West Ham Newcastle Leeds forest boro wolves Derby all have been at this position all bigger than Stoke ....it's what happens with promotion and relegation
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 15, 2018 9:31:34 GMT
Scholes has been good for the club. We’re not big spenders but we’ve spent enough not to be in the mess we are. He now has to show he has his finger on the pulse and sack those he pays to run the club namely Scholes and Cartwright. Do that and we’ll be going in the right direction again. Fail and he only has himself to blame if things get worse and supporters start staying away (I won’t). presume you mean Coates has been good??? Was gonna give you a digital slap then Amended |
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Post by walton corner on Apr 15, 2018 9:33:09 GMT
What I can say is ten years on we probably have 20 x the money we had available in promotion year ....so spend wisely and we should be top 6 at least
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 15, 2018 9:34:51 GMT
presume you mean Coates has been good??? Was gonna give you a digital slap then Do you hand on heart think that will happen? Will be his only reprieve I hope he gets rid of them both. Don’t mind Lambert staying but wouldn’t be surprised to see fresh blood either but I also think he was given the job for a reason I.e the championship I don’t have an issue with Lambert he at least seems to know how to get us pulling in the right direction unlike the previous manager. He needs to be given the opportunity to bring his own players in. |
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Post by heathen on Apr 15, 2018 9:37:03 GMT
In the last ten years I have seen my team beat Chelsea, Manure, Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool 6-1, go to an FA Cup Final, win a Wembley semi final 5-0. I have seen Stokealona play some of the best football I have ever seen and in sixty two years as a Stokie this has been a good period. Why Stokealona only lasted six weeks I don't know, but I don't think it was Coates' fault. In fact I think that most of the delirious joy I have experienced has been thanks to P Coates. Mistakes have been made but screaming abuse will achieve nothing. I have my season ticket for next season and I expect more misery - I am a Stoke Supporter not a bloody glory hunter.
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Post by caine on Apr 15, 2018 9:38:32 GMT
Criticism/ abuse at the ground in forms of a chant or flag is the same thing only way we voice our opinion. He’s hardly gonna come on a local radio and answer the fans opinions when we get relegated. He will go into hiding until next season! That's utter codswallop fella. There's a whole world of difference between criticism on here of his shortsightedness and parsimony than chanting abuse and waving banners at football matches. We all know how that tends to end up. If we have any chance of coming back up any time soon we need a re-focused Peter Coates. Yes he needs to acknowledge the mistakes he and his hired hands have made and yes that ought to mean the bullet for at least one if not both but don't tell me he doesn't know what all the fuss was about really in his heart of hearts. But if we piss Peter off again, and more to the point if we piss Denise off, like I'm told she was after the 'directors box storming episode', we may be in for another 23 years or more of stagnation. Never said there wasn’t a difference between it on here and at the ground. It’s more beneficial at the ground unless Coates is as boring as us and comes on here. Heaven forbid if we piss Denise off Jesus. Sure she won’t mind when we go down and receive 100m and probably 70m when we sell Shaq etc and they pocket it all and we spend next to nothing again. My point was I think we should let the Board and Coates know how bad the decisions have been. Seems they have gone under the radar far to easily for me and Hughes was the scape goat! Bet you he had naff all to with half the signings! |
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Apr 15, 2018 9:43:05 GMT
St Pete has acknowledged mistakes have been made, let's go down with a lttle class ay, we'er not some jumped up little London club with dilution or granduer.
We're going down, have been for weeks, let's do it with a little class.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Apr 15, 2018 9:49:16 GMT
That's utter codswallop fella. There's a whole world of difference between criticism on here of his shortsightedness and parsimony than chanting abuse and waving banners at football matches. We all know how that tends to end up. If we have any chance of coming back up any time soon we need a re-focused Peter Coates. Yes he needs to acknowledge the mistakes he and his hired hands have made and yes that ought to mean the bullet for at least one if not both but don't tell me he doesn't know what all the fuss was about really in his heart of hearts. But if we piss Peter off again, and more to the point if we piss Denise off, like I'm told she was after the 'directors box storming episode', we may be in for another 23 years or more of stagnation. Never said there wasn’t a difference between it on here and at the ground. It’s more beneficial at the ground unless Coates is as boring as us and comes on here. Heaven forbid if we piss Denise off Jesus. Sure she won’t mind when we go down and receive 100m and probably 70m when we sell Shaq etc and they pocket it all and we spend next to nothing again. My point was I think we should let the Board and Coates know how bad the decisions have been. Seems they have gone under the radar far to easily for me and Hughes was the scape goat! Bet you he had naff all to with half the signings! And my point was, what is the point? Do you not think they actually know what a fuck up they've made? Do they really need us to remind them of that during a football match? Peter Coates isn't a stupid man. Stubborn and set in his ways maybe but not stupid. All chanting and demonstrating at the ground does is releases a bit of pent up anger in those doing the chanting. In my opinion it's self indulgent and selfish and ultimately counter productive. |
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Post by bingbang on Apr 15, 2018 9:54:47 GMT
I hold Coates as 100 % responsible for this mess after all he does all the hiring and firing of staff. In my eyes he is an awful businessman who has made his money thanks to the children he has. What type of businessman lets a guaranteed minimum of 100 million pounds per year slide through his hands ? He deserves all the abuse from the fans, totally blind to what has been happening for the last 18 months.
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Post by caine on Apr 15, 2018 9:56:06 GMT
Never said there wasn’t a difference between it on here and at the ground. It’s more beneficial at the ground unless Coates is as boring as us and comes on here. Heaven forbid if we piss Denise off Jesus. Sure she won’t mind when we go down and receive 100m and probably 70m when we sell Shaq etc and they pocket it all and we spend next to nothing again. My point was I think we should let the Board and Coates know how bad the decisions have been. Seems they have gone under the radar far to easily for me and Hughes was the scape goat! Bet you he had naff all to with half the signings! And my point was, what is the point? Do you not think they actually know what a fuck up they've made? Do they really need us to remind them of that during a football match? Peter Coates isn't a stupid man. Stubborn and set in his ways maybe but not stupid. All chanting and demonstrating at the ground does is releases a bit of pent up anger in those doing the chanting. In my opinion it's self indulgent and selfish and ultimately counter productive. Not saying go completely West Ham and act like bloody idiots. I’m saying there hasn’t been any back slash towards the board. If we lose to West Ham which would all but confirm it then I will be interested to see the reaction. Someone has to take the blame and it is far from Lamberts fault. Let’s say Coates does keep Cartwright and Scholes. Would you welcome the critism then? |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Apr 15, 2018 10:04:34 GMT
And my point was, what is the point? Do you not think they actually know what a fuck up they've made? Do they really need us to remind them of that during a football match? Peter Coates isn't a stupid man. Stubborn and set in his ways maybe but not stupid. All chanting and demonstrating at the ground does is releases a bit of pent up anger in those doing the chanting. In my opinion it's self indulgent and selfish and ultimately counter productive. Not saying go completely West Ham and act like bloody idiots. I’m saying there hasn’t been any back slash towards the board. If we lose to West Ham which would all buy confirm it then I will be interested to see the reaction. Someone has to take the blame and it far from Lamberts fault. Let’s say Coates does keep Cartwright and Scholes. Would you welcome the critism then? Look this is going nowhere. I've said non of them, players, Lambert, Hughes, Cartwright, Scholes and the Coates family, are beyond criticism for this monumental fuck up. Some though more than others. What I said was there was a world of difference between sensible and rational criticism in the local rag and other media outlets, social or otherwise, and some pissed up fans angry that Arnie has just relegated us leaping up and down like demented Gibbons, chanting 'Coates is a cunt' and waving a badly spelled hand painted banner with 'Cotes out' on it. Can't you see that? |
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