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Post by malteser68 on Feb 12, 2018 10:48:11 GMT
Next match vs Leicester is truly last chance saloon br] If we want to remain in this league we need to earn our right to retain premiership status
Other teams have done it - why not us ?
There was never a better time to play Leicester
They have nothing to play for, bad run of form, internal squabbling
If we fail to beat them we deserve to go down
If we beat them then we can continue to battle it out till the final game
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Post by monkeymagic on Feb 12, 2018 10:50:18 GMT
Suspect they have too much pace for us and we will get nothing there!
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Post by hoekstra on Feb 12, 2018 10:50:40 GMT
Do you think they will do blow drys
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 12, 2018 10:53:25 GMT
Most games recently have been last chance saloon, it shows how tight it is and we've still got a chance, a slim one but I'll take it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 10:53:43 GMT
Do you think they will do blow drys How many Cowboys do you know that have their hair blow dried?
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Post by thegift on Feb 12, 2018 10:53:54 GMT
Because we're shit.
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Post by hoekstra on Feb 12, 2018 10:56:58 GMT
It said salon when I posted
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 10:57:46 GMT
3 at the back
Butland
Zouma Shawcross Martins Indi
Bauer Allen Ndiaye Stafylidis
Shaqiri Diouf Sobhi
4 at the back
Butland
Bauer Shawcross Zouma Pieters
Allen Ndiaye
Diouf Shaqiri Sobhi
Choupo-Moting (reluctantly)
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Post by thegift on Feb 12, 2018 10:59:43 GMT
3 at the backButland Zouma Shawcross Martins Indi Bauer Allen Ndiaye Stafylidis Shaqiri Diouf Sobhi 4 at the backButland Bauer Shawcross Zouma Pieters Allen Ndiaye Diouf Shaqiri Sobhi Choupo-Moting (reluctantly) You think Choupo deserves a start after Saturdays abysmal 'effort'
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 11:01:07 GMT
3 at the backButland Zouma Shawcross Martins Indi Bauer Allen Ndiaye Stafylidis Shaqiri Diouf Sobhi 4 at the backButland Bauer Shawcross Zouma Pieters Allen Ndiaye Diouf Shaqiri Sobhi Choupo-Moting (reluctantly) You think Choupo deserves a start after Saturdays abysmal 'effort' In a 4-2-3-1 away from home yes, as I don't see any alternatives if you play Shaqiri centrally......
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Post by scfc5 on Feb 12, 2018 11:04:23 GMT
3 at the backButland Zouma Shawcross Martins Indi Bauer Allen Ndiaye Stafylidis Shaqiri Diouf Sobhi 4 at the backButland Bauer Shawcross Zouma Pieters Allen Ndiaye Diouf Shaqiri Sobhi Choupo-Moting (reluctantly) I keep seeing mentions of 3 at the back. Has Lambert hinted somewhere he might? He has never been a back 3 man anywhere else to my knowledge? I can't leave Jese out after the last game. I'm with your 4-2-3-1, but Diouf up top and Jese on the left. Choupo will be benched I expect, given his lack of effort on Saturday. I think (and hope) Lambert is learning who he can and can't trust in a scrap now. The only other alternative might be Cameron in midfield and Allen as No10 (I know, I know!), with Shaq to the right. He might think the attacking midfield 3 is too expansive for away at Leicester.
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Post by foster on Feb 12, 2018 11:06:59 GMT
3 games ago people were saying we needed 10 points or the world is over.
Should go week by week. Leicester isn't last chance saloon, but the chances to pick up much needed points are slowly passing by.
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Post by tqstokie on Feb 12, 2018 11:08:29 GMT
Every game now is shit or bust. We must set up offensively and go for it from the start. I'd rather see us relegated giving it a good go than pussy footing around. Play Sobhi in place of Chopper and get Ireland, Campbell and Afellay more involved. Time for the real men to be counted.
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Post by thegift on Feb 12, 2018 11:22:01 GMT
Why can ireland not get a start?
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Post by toppercorner on Feb 12, 2018 11:25:29 GMT
I've read that Mahrez has made up with his team mates and is back in the fold .... you know what that means for Stoke Charity FC
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 11:25:47 GMT
Why can ireland not get a start? I think still waters run deep, him and Lambert had issues at Villa
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Post by thegift on Feb 12, 2018 11:26:35 GMT
Why can ireland not get a start? I think still waters run deep, him and Lambert had issues at Villa Affaley?
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Post by crownmeking on Feb 12, 2018 11:30:02 GMT
Why can ireland not get a start? Agree, he looked sharp the last game he played (was it against the shit?) - I think perhaps Lambert has an old issue with him that hasn't been resolved.
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Post by thegift on Feb 12, 2018 11:31:14 GMT
Why can ireland not get a start? Agree, he looked sharp the last game he played (was it against the shit?) - I think perhaps Lambert has an old issue with him that hasn't been resolved. Played well at cov and united. Proper footballer. very good technically.
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Post by crownmeking on Feb 12, 2018 11:34:07 GMT
Agree, he looked sharp the last game he played (was it against the shit?) - I think perhaps Lambert has an old issue with him that hasn't been resolved. Played well at cov and united. Proper football. very good technically. Yes, I think he might be key to unlocking some much needed creativity. It is a outrage if he is not being selected because of a relationship problem with the manager. Although Lambert did come out and say he had no problem with Ireland, but the problems at Villa were well documented.
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Post by thegift on Feb 12, 2018 11:35:03 GMT
Played well at cov and united. Proper football. very good technically. Yes, I think he might be key to unlocking some much needed creativity. It is a outrage if he is not being selected because of a relationship problem with the manager. Although Lambert did come out and say he had no problem with Ireland, but the problems at Villa were well documented. And he's not going to come out and say Ireland is a wanker. So its got to be the reason, he's better than charlie adam, thats for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 11:46:25 GMT
3 at the backButland Zouma Shawcross Martins Indi Bauer Allen Ndiaye Stafylidis Shaqiri Diouf Sobhi 4 at the backButland Bauer Shawcross Zouma Pieters Allen Ndiaye Diouf Shaqiri Sobhi Choupo-Moting (reluctantly) I keep seeing mentions of 3 at the back. Has Lambert hinted somewhere he might? He has never been a back 3 man anywhere else to my knowledge? I can't leave Jese out after the last game. I'm with your 4-2-3-1, but Diouf up top and Jese on the left. Choupo will be benched I expect, given his lack of effort on Saturday. I think (and hope) Lambert is learning who he can and can't trust in a scrap now. The only other alternative might be Cameron in midfield and Allen as No10 (I know, I know!), with Shaq to the right. He might think the attacking midfield 3 is too expansive for away at Leicester. Choupo-Moting's work rate out on the left has been very poor these last few games you'll get no arguments from me there. The only thing I will say is that despite not being a natural centre forward we looked quite threatening as a team when he played in that position. Man Utd and Arsenal at home (he did interchange with Jese at time) but also games like Leicester at home, Brighton, West Brom and Watford away and even the defeats at Newcastle and Palace I thought in the main he led the line quite well. Has all the physical attributes and Diouf works his knackers off away from home out wide, not saying it's perfect for one second but I wouldn't be completely opposed to it.....
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Post by scfc5 on Feb 12, 2018 11:46:49 GMT
I've read that Mahrez has made up with his team mates and is back in the fold .... you know what that means for Stoke Charity FC He's already sorted that - he played at Man City on Saturday.
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Post by scfc5 on Feb 12, 2018 11:51:49 GMT
I keep seeing mentions of 3 at the back. Has Lambert hinted somewhere he might? He has never been a back 3 man anywhere else to my knowledge? I can't leave Jese out after the last game. I'm with your 4-2-3-1, but Diouf up top and Jese on the left. Choupo will be benched I expect, given his lack of effort on Saturday. I think (and hope) Lambert is learning who he can and can't trust in a scrap now. The only other alternative might be Cameron in midfield and Allen as No10 (I know, I know!), with Shaq to the right. He might think the attacking midfield 3 is too expansive for away at Leicester. Choupo-Moting's work rate out on the left has been very poor these last few games you'll get no arguments from me there. The only thing I will say is that despite not being a natural centre forward we looked quite threatening as a team when he played in that position. Man Utd and Arsenal at home (he did interchange with Jese at time) but also games like Leicester at home, Brighton, West Brom and Watford away and even the defeats at Newcastle and Palace I thought in the main he led the line quite well. Has all the physical attributes and Diouf works his knackers off away from home out wide, not saying it's perfect for one second but I wouldn't be completely opposed to it..... I agree with the sentiment and would have been with you until I saw Saturday. We don't have time for passengers and most of the others were putting a real shift in, even if the quality was poor. I guess it is down to what Lambert sees in training. If Choupo looks fired up next week, then get him in. I think you are more likely to see Crouch up top than Choupo though.
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Post by callas12 on Feb 12, 2018 11:54:48 GMT
I've read that Mahrez has made up with his team mates and is back in the fold .... you know what that means for Stoke Charity FC He's already sorted that - he played at Man City on Saturday. Nah I was thinking that it's make or break the crowd at the King Power for him v Stoke especially as it's being televised. Come out and have a worldie & either score or set a few chances up early on & he'll quickly restore his status with the locals. Its written in the stars to happen this way!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 11:57:27 GMT
Choupo-Moting's work rate out on the left has been very poor these last few games you'll get no arguments from me there. The only thing I will say is that despite not being a natural centre forward we looked quite threatening as a team when he played in that position. Man Utd and Arsenal at home (he did interchange with Jese at time) but also games like Leicester at home, Brighton, West Brom and Watford away and even the defeats at Newcastle and Palace I thought in the main he led the line quite well. Has all the physical attributes and Diouf works his knackers off away from home out wide, not saying it's perfect for one second but I wouldn't be completely opposed to it..... I agree with the sentiment and would have been with you until I saw Saturday. We don't have time for passengers and most of the others were putting a real shift in, even if the quality was poor. I guess it is down to what Lambert sees in training. If Choupo looks fired up next week, then get him in. I think you are more likely to see Crouch up top than Choupo though. It's probably the way he plays rightly or wrongly. But it's infuriating as hell when you need players to be fighting for every ball. But his work rate up top is far less of an issue especially with Sobhi out left who protects his full back really well.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 12, 2018 11:58:16 GMT
I keep seeing mentions of 3 at the back. Has Lambert hinted somewhere he might? He has never been a back 3 man anywhere else to my knowledge? I can't leave Jese out after the last game. I'm with your 4-2-3-1, but Diouf up top and Jese on the left. Choupo will be benched I expect, given his lack of effort on Saturday. I think (and hope) Lambert is learning who he can and can't trust in a scrap now. The only other alternative might be Cameron in midfield and Allen as No10 (I know, I know!), with Shaq to the right. He might think the attacking midfield 3 is too expansive for away at Leicester. Choupo-Moting's work rate out on the left has been very poor these last few games you'll get no arguments from me there. The only thing I will say is that despite not being a natural centre forward we looked quite threatening as a team when he played in that position. Man Utd and Arsenal at home (he did interchange with Jese at time) but also games like Leicester at home, Brighton, West Brom and Watford away and even the defeats at Newcastle and Palace I thought in the main he led the line quite well. Has all the physical attributes and Diouf works his knackers off away from home out wide, not saying it's perfect for one second but I wouldn't be completely opposed to it..... I like both your formations, and think the inclusion of Ramadan is particularly important. The one thing Choupo can do is hold the ball, so I can see why you are putting him up front. The ball doesn't stick to Diouf, and at least Choupo isn't as painfully slow as Crouch. Overall, I would go with your 4-2-3-1, with the instruction to get crossing the fucking ball! It's worked the few times we've tried it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 12:00:50 GMT
All those gaols conceded have knocked the confidence out of the squad. Linker will be lapping it up on MOTD! We are that unfit I think when he introduces the game he will make some money by saying the following, ' Leicester faced the walkers today!'
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 12:02:57 GMT
Choupo-Moting's work rate out on the left has been very poor these last few games you'll get no arguments from me there. The only thing I will say is that despite not being a natural centre forward we looked quite threatening as a team when he played in that position. Man Utd and Arsenal at home (he did interchange with Jese at time) but also games like Leicester at home, Brighton, West Brom and Watford away and even the defeats at Newcastle and Palace I thought in the main he led the line quite well. Has all the physical attributes and Diouf works his knackers off away from home out wide, not saying it's perfect for one second but I wouldn't be completely opposed to it..... I like both your formations, and think the inclusion of Ramadan is particularly important. The one thing Choupo can do is hold the ball, so I can see why you are putting him up front. The ball doesn't stick to Diouf, and at least Choupo isn't as painfully slow as Crouch. Overall, I would go with your 4-2-3-1, with the instruction to get crossing the fucking ball! It's worked the few times we've tried it. If Lambert doesn't think outside the box these next few games and try something different in terms of formation (or at the very least personnel) then honestly I think we're well and truly fucked. If Fletcher, Berahino or Crouchie bless him are anywhere near starting we may as well wave the white flag in my opinion.....
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 12, 2018 12:11:51 GMT
I like both your formations, and think the inclusion of Ramadan is particularly important. The one thing Choupo can do is hold the ball, so I can see why you are putting him up front. The ball doesn't stick to Diouf, and at least Choupo isn't as painfully slow as Crouch. Overall, I would go with your 4-2-3-1, with the instruction to get crossing the fucking ball! It's worked the few times we've tried it. If Lambert doesn't think outside the box these next few games and try something different in terms of formation (or at the very least personnel) then honestly I think we're well and truly fucked. If Fletcher, Berahino or Crouchie bless him are anywhere near starting we may as well wave the white flag in my opinion..... That's my worry. I gave the guy a chance, but he seems too "safe" to me, reverting to supposedly reliable players. Football wise, we looked brighter in the Manchester Utd game under Eddie! Our passing was good, which shows we are capable of it(they bloody should be!), but Lambert immediately ditched that approach. He obviously loves Crouch, which I think kills us, and is allergic to Ramadan. Yeah, if he plays the three you mention we will go down, if he played the side you suggest I think we would have a decent chance of staying up. He doesn't strike me as overly adventurous, though.
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