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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 19, 2018 11:25:34 GMT
Sorro Bego Butland Faye Huth N'Zonzi Arnie Ethers Beattie I love Crouchy but his play has taken a lot away from us and like I said has played a key role in TP's and Hughes' demise. How do you mean Bayern re the demise bit? TP's sides were best with a mobile forward up front applying pressure and stretching play. Hughes' sides were best with the same. In both of their reigns their demise started when Crouch started more games. You automatically fire it long to him and it's pretty easy to stop. TP went for Adam behind him and it was poor. Hughes has gone on the whole for Allen being the closest. And it was poor. We don't get enough men around him. He's a good player, seems a lovely bloke and is an excellent plan B but he stifles our game so much when he starts. And that's not his fault but successive managers have fallen into the trap.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 19, 2018 11:25:38 GMT
If let him go. We would be able to make this insanity work for us with a reciprocal player loan wouldn't we?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 11:27:14 GMT
Why? Because he lives in London and has just had another kid? Because he'll get a minimum 2 year contract out of it on a higher wage than at Stoke? Because he might get some Champions League football? Because he might just squeak into Southgate's thoughts if he's playing for Chelsea? Also don't forget Chelsea have some leverage in this - if we don't play ball they may just recall Zouma out of spite (and yes they can - like they did with Ake last year - though to be honest the way he's been playing the past few games I'm not sure I'd be that bothered - though Lambo might think he can get more out of him). Doesn't he live in Cheshire? I don't see him being particularly arsed about wages to be honest, and he knows he won't be short of offers when he leaves us. Add to that I very much doubt Chelsea will give him more than a year. He might, in early rounds, he'll barely play otherwise. Certainly less than he will here. The last two years that's basically all he's spoken about, he wants to play more. He won't get that at Chelsea. Not a chance he gets in England squad, especially not with four or five 10 minute cameos a season for Chelsea. He comes up on the train - that's got to be 5 hours a day commuting door to door. I know it's not like he's doing a 12 shift in between but still, as he is literally down the road from Chelsea's training facilities it would be a huge improvement in the quality of his family life.
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Post by scfc25 on Jan 19, 2018 11:27:59 GMT
Had it confirmed by a good source that Chelsea have made no approach this window for Crouch. They made an enquiry earlier in the season for him but we basically told them he is an important member of the squad and dont want to let him go. Dont think theres much more to it, the usual transfer window ‘story’ to hide the fact not much is happening
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Post by overthehills on Jan 19, 2018 11:30:27 GMT
Is crouch to Chelsea actually real or just a BIG joke?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 11:34:35 GMT
Had it confirmed by a good source that Chelsea have made no approach this window for Crouch. They made an enquiry earlier in the season for him but we basically told them he is an important member of the squad and dont want to let him go. Dont think theres much more to it, the usual transfer window ‘story’ to hide the fact not much is happening That source being the tweet Dorsett just posted? Stop fucking pretending, get attention some other way.
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Post by salopstick on Jan 19, 2018 11:52:58 GMT
The more I hear of Rafa the more I don’t want him anywhere near our club. Why, what have you heard? Figure of speech Just the whole aura. Continually moaning about his owner, the way he does his business. He isnt pulling up trees at Newcastle. The only reason he doesn’t get much shit off the geordies is because they hate Ashley
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Post by salopstick on Jan 19, 2018 11:54:39 GMT
How do you mean Bayern re the demise bit? TP's sides were best with a mobile forward up front applying pressure and stretching play. Hughes' sides were best with the same. In both of their reigns their demise started when Crouch started more games. You automatically fire it long to him and it's pretty easy to stop. TP went for Adam behind him and it was poor. Hughes has gone on the whole for Allen being the closest. And it was poor. We don't get enough men around him. He's a good player, seems a lovely bloke and is an excellent plan B but he stifles our game so much when he starts. And that's not his fault but successive managers have fallen into the trap. Crouch isn’t s long ball striker though. Forget his height he is a better player than that. I said at the time you have to change your style to play crouch with ball to feet.
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Post by theplantpotter on Jan 19, 2018 11:57:37 GMT
I agree with Nick
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Post by pez75 on Jan 19, 2018 11:59:00 GMT
Tell me why Chelsea want to loan a 37 year old player struggling to help a side in contention of being relegated when they have arguably one of the best target man in the league. Michy on the bench and Tammy Abraham on loan. Because they want a plan C from off the bench in certain circumstances. They tried to get Llorente in the summer, have been linked with Carrol who is too brittle and now want a cheeky loan of Crouch. Its not rocket science, he aint going to replace Morata FFS. Oh, and Tammy Abraham is cack at this level and Batshit is not much better.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 19, 2018 11:59:03 GMT
TP's sides were best with a mobile forward up front applying pressure and stretching play. Hughes' sides were best with the same. In both of their reigns their demise started when Crouch started more games. You automatically fire it long to him and it's pretty easy to stop. TP went for Adam behind him and it was poor. Hughes has gone on the whole for Allen being the closest. And it was poor. We don't get enough men around him. He's a good player, seems a lovely bloke and is an excellent plan B but he stifles our game so much when he starts. And that's not his fault but successive managers have fallen into the trap. Crouch isn’t s long ball striker though. Forget his height he is a better player than that. I said at the time you have to change your style to play crouch with ball to feet. We don't though.
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Post by marrer on Jan 19, 2018 12:09:21 GMT
How do you mean Bayern re the demise bit? TP's sides were best with a mobile forward up front applying pressure and stretching play. Hughes' sides were best with the same. In both of their reigns their demise started when Crouch started more games. You automatically fire it long to him and it's pretty easy to stop. TP went for Adam behind him and it was poor. Hughes has gone on the whole for Allen being the closest. And it was poor. We don't get enough men around him. He's a good player, seems a lovely bloke and is an excellent plan B but he stifles our game so much when he starts. And that's not his fault but successive managers have fallen into the trap. Thanks mate, I get what you mean now. I wasn't sure whether you meant the playing of him led to their downfall or Crouchy himself led to their downfall. You mean the former. Can't wait for tomorrow. Incidentally, are you in Germany or is there another reason for the name? Cheers Rog
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 19, 2018 12:13:17 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/42744059My understanding is Peter Crouch is one of a number of players Chelsea have discussed as potential transfer targets, which is why there has been no contact with Stoke. Manager Antonio Conte wants to bring in another striker that would allow Michy Batshuayi to leave Stamford Bridge this month. West Ham's Andy Carroll was an option but that avenue has been closed by the ankle injury that will keep him out for at least a month and possibly longer. Conte is still considering his next move but it is understood Crouch is one of the players he is thinking of. As a short term measure, the 36-year-old is attractive because he is used to the Premier League, would understand his role as back up to main striker Alvaro Morata and is available for the Champions League. One drawback is the former England man has played in both domestic cup competitions for Stoke and therefore is unavailable for the remainder of the competitions. There is no guarantee Chelsea will approach Crouch, whose Stoke contract expires in the summer, but the mere fact his name is being floated as a potential option underlines how little faith Conte has in Batshuayi.
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Post by pez75 on Jan 19, 2018 12:16:05 GMT
Sorro Bego Butland Faye Huth N'Zonzi Arnie Ethers Beattie I love Crouchy but his play has taken a lot away from us and like I said has played a key role in TP's and Hughes' demise. Exactly what I have always said about him. When Crouch is up top, whether for Stoke, England, whoever, the default tactic is to hit it long up to him. I also think him being at Stoke, and the ball being played to him as it is, contributed to Shawcross never realising his England career. Pisser! I have visions of Ryan in 40 yrs time boring the arse off people in the pub "I could have had it all if hadn't been for Peter Crouch..."
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Post by thebet365 on Jan 19, 2018 12:23:05 GMT
If let him go. We would be able to make this insanity work for us with a reciprocal player loan wouldn't we? We've already got Zouma from them. Can't loan more than 1 player from a club I don't think.
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Post by scfc25 on Jan 19, 2018 12:25:02 GMT
Had it confirmed by a good source that Chelsea have made no approach this window for Crouch. They made an enquiry earlier in the season for him but we basically told them he is an important member of the squad and dont want to let him go. Dont think theres much more to it, the usual transfer window ‘story’ to hide the fact not much is happening That source being the tweet Dorsett just posted? Stop fucking pretending, get attention some other way. Jeez.. tough crowd, sorry for offending you so much
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jan 19, 2018 12:30:45 GMT
Tell me why Chelsea want to loan a 37 year old player struggling to help a side in contention of being relegated when they have arguably one of the best target man in the league. Michy on the bench and Tammy Abraham on loan. Because they want a plan C from off the bench in certain circumstances. They tried to get Llorente in the summer, have been linked with Carrol who is too brittle and now want a cheeky loan of Crouch. Its not rocket science, he aint going to replace Morata FFS. Oh, and Tammy Abraham is cack at this level and Batshit is not much better. There are so many better options than Crouch for a plan C. It's horse shit.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 12:36:10 GMT
That source being the tweet Dorsett just posted? Stop fucking pretending, get attention some other way. Jeez.. tough crowd, sorry for offending you so much Wait, that was a joke? Christ, don't go into standup mate.
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Post by StokieNath on Jan 19, 2018 12:36:30 GMT
I'd rather we have Kenedy In the unlikely event of us giving them Crouch you would replace him with a left back? a winger.
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Post by scfc75 on Jan 19, 2018 12:37:14 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/42744059My understanding is Peter Crouch is one of a number of players Chelsea have discussed as potential transfer targets, which is why there has been no contact with Stoke. Manager Antonio Conte wants to bring in another striker that would allow Michy Batshuayi to leave Stamford Bridge this month. West Ham's Andy Carroll was an option but that avenue has been closed by the ankle injury that will keep him out for at least a month and possibly longer. Conte is still considering his next move but it is understood Crouch is one of the players he is thinking of. As a short term measure, the 36-year-old is attractive because he is used to the Premier League, would understand his role as back up to main striker Alvaro Morata and is available for the Champions League. One drawback is the former England man has played in both domestic cup competitions for Stoke and therefore is unavailable for the remainder of the competitions. There is no guarantee Chelsea will approach Crouch, whose Stoke contract expires in the summer, but the mere fact his name is being floated as a potential option underlines how little faith Conte has in Batshuayi. 2019 isn't it?
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 19, 2018 12:41:56 GMT
£5m plus addons. £1m for every trophy they win whilst he is there,plus £1m for every place above 6th.
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Post by scfc25 on Jan 19, 2018 12:43:55 GMT
Jeez.. tough crowd, sorry for offending you so much Wait, that was a joke? Christ, don't go into standup mate. What are you on about? Weird guy
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Post by pez75 on Jan 19, 2018 12:47:12 GMT
Because they want a plan C from off the bench in certain circumstances. They tried to get Llorente in the summer, have been linked with Carrol who is too brittle and now want a cheeky loan of Crouch. Its not rocket science, he aint going to replace Morata FFS. Oh, and Tammy Abraham is cack at this level and Batshit is not much better. There are so many better options than Crouch for a plan C. It's horse shit. Thats your opinion. Conte may think differently. Whether this story is current or a throwback to September, it is clear to all that Conte wants a big target man on his bench.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jan 19, 2018 12:48:45 GMT
There are so many better options than Crouch for a plan C. It's horse shit. Thats your opinion. Conte may think differently. Whether this story is current or a throwback to September, it is clear to all that Conte wants a big target man on his bench. They already have a big targetman. And if he wanted another the last person to look at is Crouch when you're a club like Chelsea.
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Post by scfc75 on Jan 19, 2018 12:49:11 GMT
Maybe they could tempt Zigic out of retirement, and we could resurrect that mammoth thread
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Post by Bang Bang Cauliflower on Jan 19, 2018 13:17:48 GMT
Bas Dost. Must be time for his name to come up, always does.
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Post by nutterpotter on Jan 19, 2018 13:21:57 GMT
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Post by roosterscomb on Jan 19, 2018 13:28:26 GMT
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Post by feynmann2 on Jan 19, 2018 13:48:18 GMT
Why, what have you heard? Figure of speech Just the whole aura. Continually moaning about his owner, the way he does his business. He isnt pulling up trees at Newcastle. The only reason he doesn’t get much shit off the geordies is because they hate Ashley Oh, OK - I thought there might be some gossip I'd missed For me he feels like a frustrated top tier manager probably sold a story about big investment once he'd got Newcastle back up and marking time with make do signings until he can invest to take them back to the top... I think bringing in Rafa would have been the statement of ambition we all crave as there is no way he would come without being promised the where with all to break us into the top 6/7 Still, not going to happen now so no point in pining
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Post by realstokebloke on Jan 19, 2018 14:25:47 GMT
Whatever your views on Crouchie, I doubt it's going to happen, so let's keep the lanky article and sing him a song to let him know he belongs:
He's big, he's red, his feet stick out the bed
Peter Crouch, Peter Crouch ...
He's got no pace but in the air he's fookin' ace
Peter Crouch, Peter Crouch ...
He does the 'bot', his wife is fookin' hot
Peter Crouch, Peter Crouch ...
He plays for Stoke, not that Conte bloke
Peter Crouch, Peter Crouch ...
He's tall, he's pale he's not for fookin' sale
Peter ... fookin' ... Crouch
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