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Post by marrer on Jan 19, 2018 7:17:27 GMT
Pound for pound, value for money, goals, profile for the club and the influence behind the scenes. Can you think of a better PL signing? Sorro Bego Butland Faye Huth N'Zonzi Arnie Ethers Beattie I love Crouchy but his play has taken a lot away from us and like I said has played a key role in TP's and Hughes' demise. How do you mean Bayern re the demise bit?
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Post by doitforfrank on Jan 19, 2018 7:58:51 GMT
Pound for pound, value for money, goals, profile for the club and the influence behind the scenes. Can you think of a better PL signing? Sorro Bego Butland Faye Huth N'Zonzi Arnie Ethers Beattie I love Crouchy but his play has taken a lot away from us and like I said has played a key role in TP's and Hughes' demise. Exactly what I have always said about him. When Crouch is up top, whether for Stoke, England, whoever, the default tactic is to hit it long up to him. I also think him being at Stoke, and the ball being played to him as it is, contributed to Shawcross never realising his England career.
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Post by andystokey on Jan 19, 2018 8:28:20 GMT
Half the PL would take him at that price.
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Post by Northy on Jan 19, 2018 8:31:22 GMT
If they give us Batshauayi then yeah. (Even if he was God awful when I watched him last night) I'd rather we have Kenedy or Musonda. Yep, swap him for Kenedy and £5m .......... to us
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 8:45:14 GMT
Don't see why he'd go there to be honest. No league title this year, and he won't get the game time he keeps whining about.
Nor do I see why we'd sell. As much as I hate him starting, there's not a better plan B from the bench, alongside Fellaini.
Be more likely to go to a team below us where he's confident he'll start.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 19, 2018 8:56:08 GMT
Half the PL would take him at that price. Everyone would take him at that price. Given what we are facing right now there is no incentive to sell him at all. Unless it is connected to a deal where we are getting another striker in return, it is obviously not going to happen
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Post by thegift on Jan 19, 2018 9:03:37 GMT
Chelsea 'want crouch' - We don't need to sell him, were in no rush.
£10M Minimum.
Any less and they can fuck off.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 9:12:23 GMT
If they give us Batshauayi then yeah. (Even if he was God awful when I watched him last night) I'd rather we have Kenedy In the unlikely event of us giving them Crouch you would replace him with a left back?
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Post by ohbottom on Jan 19, 2018 9:15:52 GMT
Don't see why he'd go there to be honest. No league title this year, and he won't get the game time he keeps whining about. Nor do I see why we'd sell. As much as I hate him starting, there's not a better plan B from the bench, alongside Fellaini. Be more likely to go to a team below us where he's confident he'll start. So West Brom or Swansea then?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 9:27:10 GMT
There is a reason that his spell at Stoke is the longest in his career.
Decent footballer, nice guy but every club soon realises you can’t accommodate him. Whenever he’s on the pitch the football turns to shit and any counter attack is non existent.
Has he even remotely got close to the goal since he’s been starting games? Aimless flick ons where 90% of the time they go to the opposition isn’t football.
It was an odd signing at the time and even though he’s not been a waste of money, he’s simply never been needed.
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Post by Squeekster on Jan 19, 2018 9:31:44 GMT
There is a reason that his spell at Stoke is the longest in his career. Decent footballer, nice guy but every club soon realises you can’t accommodate him. Whenever he’s on the pitch the football turns to shit and any counter attack is non existent. Has he even remotely got close to the goal since he’s been starting games? Aimless flick ons where 90% of the time they go to the opposition isn’t football. It was an odd signing at the time and even though he’s not been a waste of money, he’s simply never been needed. So all these clubs sign him not knowing how he plays? I don't think so.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jan 19, 2018 9:35:59 GMT
Don't see why he'd go there to be honest. No league title this year, and he won't get the game time he keeps whining about. Nor do I see why we'd sell. As much as I hate him starting, there's not a better plan B from the bench, alongside Fellaini. Be more likely to go to a team below us where he's confident he'll start. Why? Because he lives in London and has just had another kid? Because he'll get a minimum 2 year contract out of it on a higher wage than at Stoke? Because he might get some Champions League football? Because he might just squeak into Southgate's thoughts if he's playing for Chelsea? Also don't forget Chelsea have some leverage in this - if we don't play ball they may just recall Zouma out of spite (and yes they can - like they did with Ake last year - though to be honest the way he's been playing the past few games I'm not sure I'd be that bothered - though Lambo might think he can get more out of him).
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Post by VolvicStokie on Jan 19, 2018 9:36:59 GMT
Keep him, needed as a sub and knows where the goal is.
Not being funny, but if we have to win vs Palace and Swansea last 2 games to stay up, and its 1-1 with 5 mins to go in the Palace game at home, Crouch comes on and we're pumping balls into the box. Or would you rather Saido coming on ?
Tell Chelsea, thanks, but fuck off.
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Post by Onneravineet on Jan 19, 2018 9:37:02 GMT
Don't see why he'd go there to be honest. No league title this year, and he won't get the game time he keeps whining about. Nor do I see why we'd sell. As much as I hate him starting, there's not a better plan B from the bench, alongside Fellaini. Be more likely to go to a team below us where he's confident he'll start. Whining? You’re getting confused with Walters. One is 6’7” the other is black so they’re quite easy to tell them apart
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Post by PotterEd on Jan 19, 2018 9:53:40 GMT
I'm not claiming to be even relatively ITK but a mate of mine did message me two days ago to say he'd seen Crouchy outside Stamford Bridge. I obviously didn't think anything of it at the time as this story hadn't broken yet - I assumed he was doing some media work or something. The noises coming out of Stoke are that there's no truth in this and it does all sound very odd. Just passing on what I know.
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Post by Northy on Jan 19, 2018 9:57:23 GMT
Keep him, needed as a sub and knows where the goal is. Not being funny, but if we have to win vs Palace and Swansea last 2 games to stay up, and its 1-1 with 5 mins to go in the Palace game at home, Crouch comes on and we're pumping balls into the box. Or would you rather Saido coming on ?Tell Chelsea, thanks, but fuck off. Maybe we can tie some stilts to Saido's legs and spray him white and hope Chelsea would not notice the difference ?
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Post by skip on Jan 19, 2018 10:02:28 GMT
I think it would be a crazy decision to let him go. Bigger picture, people.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 10:03:44 GMT
He's been a loyal servant and this would be a dream move for him. Assuming the offer isn't a complete piss take I think we'll do the gentlemanly thing and let him go.
Admittedly what I think is a complete piss take and what Scholes thinks are probably miles apart...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 10:11:16 GMT
He's been a loyal servant and this would be a dream move for him. Assuming the offer isn't a complete piss take I think we'll do the gentlemanly thing and let him go. Admittedly what I think is a complete piss take and what Scholes thinks are probably miles apart... No chance, we need him until the end of the season. There is a very high possibility that we will be relegated and he is an important player. I don’t think he would go anyway, he wouldn’t get many minutes.
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Post by salopstick on Jan 19, 2018 10:22:37 GMT
Mthe board need to get their bastard cheque book out. No one of use can be sold this window. I dont disagree but in the absence of them doing what I'm sure we all want then selling a 'star' to allow us to bring in what we need is an unpalatable but necessary sacrifice Personally I'd much rather we'd paid whatever it took to bring in Rafa and guaranteed him £50m for each of the next 2 windows - in the absence of that selling Crouch (not for £3m by the way) or sacrificing Jack to give Lambert what he needs to keep us up are crap but plausible alternatives The more I hear of Rafa the more I don’t want him anywhere near our club.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jan 19, 2018 10:27:35 GMT
Depending on how Lambert wants to set up and whether or not we're buying a new striker, there's every possibility he might go and have a career swansong at his boyhood club. Conte probably won't be there next season so he's unlikely to be anything other than a Plan B or C for the rest of this season.
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Post by essexstokey on Jan 19, 2018 10:37:31 GMT
typical crouch
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Post by andystokey on Jan 19, 2018 10:47:12 GMT
typical crouch He's great.
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Post by GoBoks on Jan 19, 2018 10:53:15 GMT
Don't see why he'd go there to be honest. No league title this year, and he won't get the game time he keeps whining about. Nor do I see why we'd sell. As much as I hate him starting, there's not a better plan B from the bench, alongside Fellaini. Be more likely to go to a team below us where he's confident he'll start. Not a big choice then in the premiership!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 10:55:46 GMT
Don't see why he'd go there to be honest. No league title this year, and he won't get the game time he keeps whining about. Nor do I see why we'd sell. As much as I hate him starting, there's not a better plan B from the bench, alongside Fellaini. Be more likely to go to a team below us where he's confident he'll start. Why? Because he lives in London and has just had another kid? Because he'll get a minimum 2 year contract out of it on a higher wage than at Stoke? Because he might get some Champions League football? Because he might just squeak into Southgate's thoughts if he's playing for Chelsea? Also don't forget Chelsea have some leverage in this - if we don't play ball they may just recall Zouma out of spite (and yes they can - like they did with Ake last year - though to be honest the way he's been playing the past few games I'm not sure I'd be that bothered - though Lambo might think he can get more out of him). Doesn't he live in Cheshire? I don't see him being particularly arsed about wages to be honest, and he knows he won't be short of offers when he leaves us. Add to that I very much doubt Chelsea will give him more than a year. He might, in early rounds, he'll barely play otherwise. Certainly less than he will here. The last two years that's basically all he's spoken about, he wants to play more. He won't get that at Chelsea. Not a chance he gets in England squad, especially not with four or five 10 minute cameos a season for Chelsea.
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Post by feynmann2 on Jan 19, 2018 11:01:04 GMT
I dont disagree but in the absence of them doing what I'm sure we all want then selling a 'star' to allow us to bring in what we need is an unpalatable but necessary sacrifice Personally I'd much rather we'd paid whatever it took to bring in Rafa and guaranteed him £50m for each of the next 2 windows - in the absence of that selling Crouch (not for £3m by the way) or sacrificing Jack to give Lambert what he needs to keep us up are crap but plausible alternatives The more I hear of Rafa the more I don’t want him anywhere near our club. Why, what have you heard?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 11:09:51 GMT
Exactly what I have always said about him. When Crouch is up top, whether for Stoke, England, whoever, the default tactic is to hit it long up to him. I also think him being at Stoke, and the ball being played to him as it is, contributed to Shawcross never realising his England career. Limited and primitive defensive and distribution skills might have something to do with that as well...
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Post by nutterpotter on Jan 19, 2018 11:13:45 GMT
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Post by doitforfrank on Jan 19, 2018 11:14:15 GMT
Exactly what I have always said about him. When Crouch is up top, whether for Stoke, England, whoever, the default tactic is to hit it long up to him. I also think him being at Stoke, and the ball being played to him as it is, contributed to Shawcross never realising his England career. Limited and primitive defensive and distribution skills might have something to do with that as well... Funny how it doesn’t happen without Crouch though?
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Post by OldStokie on Jan 19, 2018 11:20:28 GMT
To let the big lad go would be lunacy. I'm not for starting games with him because his height makes our other players take the easy way out and just pump long balls to him, but if I was a manager I would always want him on the bench. He's a 'twenty-minute-man' now and that's how he should be treated.
OS.
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