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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 13, 2018 13:04:10 GMT
It's the equivalent of us trying to buy a Ferrari and settling for a Nissan Micra.
All these stories over the last week about us trying to bring in a flamboyant new manager with money to spend and a 5 year plan. Surely if it's fallen through our backup plan should be someone similar. A manager with charisma, fresh ideas and attractive to players.
To make do with an O'Neill or Bilic will say a lot about what the Board really want.
You cant go from big ideas with a promise to spend to a stop gap with loans without the fans being suspicious that the initial option was just a ploy to make the fans think we're being ambitious when it simply isn't the case.
The idea of having QSF really gave a lot of hope to fans now we'll just feel sunk again.
Scholes out!!! before he causes any more damage to our great club.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 13:09:19 GMT
Nail on the head. What a farce.
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Post by withingtonstokie on Jan 13, 2018 13:09:27 GMT
It's the equivalent of us trying to buy a Ferrari and settling for a Nissan Micra. All these stories over the last week about us trying to bring in a flamboyant new manager with money to spend and a 5 year plan. Surely if it's fallen through our backup plan should be someone similar. A manager with charisma, fresh ideas and attractive to players. To make do with an O'Neill or Bilic will say a lot about what the Board really want. You cant go from big ideas with a promise to spend to a stop gap with loans without the fans being suspicious that the initial option was just a ploy to make the fans think we're being ambitious when it simply isn't the case. The idea of having QSF really gave a lot of hope to fans now we'll just feel sunk again. Scholes out!!! before he causes any more damage to our great club. Totally agree - MON would have been acceptable before the QSF saga, now it would be a massive let down. What a mess and happy 80th Peter. Doing anything nice? What a mess and I can’t help feeling that Scholes is much to blame again. Gutted, from excitement to despair in a few minutes!!!! |
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 13, 2018 13:13:14 GMT
It's the equivalent of us trying to buy a Ferrari and settling for a Nissan Micra. All these stories over the last week about us trying to bring in a flamboyant new manager with money to spend and a 5 year plan. Surely if it's fallen through our backup plan should be someone similar. A manager with charisma, fresh ideas and attractive to players. To make do with an O'Neill or Bilic will say a lot about what the Board really want. You cant go from big ideas with a promise to spend to a stop gap with loans without the fans being suspicious that the initial option was just a ploy to make the fans think we're being ambitious when it simply isn't the case. The idea of having QSF really gave a lot of hope to fans now we'll just feel sunk again. Scholes out!!! before he causes any more damage to our great club. Is their football philosophy really that far apart?  |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jan 13, 2018 13:15:00 GMT
I'm not sure there is much difference, Watford were well organised and disciplined under him and O'Neill is similar.
we have no time to waste given our run of fixtures
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Post by wuzza on Jan 13, 2018 13:16:12 GMT
Sorry you’ve got this the wrong way round - what has he achieved compared to O’Neill ?
Mass hysteria because the bloke looks a bit trendy and has an exotic name!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 13, 2018 13:17:34 GMT
Scholes clearly isn't a salesman and I just can't see him selling a club to a prospective new manager. Zero charisma and a real skinflint over money. This has happened way to many times now for it to just be coincidence.
Even if it takes till the next game we have to go for a manager with a long term plan even if it means till a couple of days before the Hudersfield game.
We have to go for someone like Potter or the guy from Brentford.
Getting O'Neill on a short term deal will just put us in limbo and if we go down we'll be a very unattractive option if we're in the Championship.
If we offered QSF enough he'd have come lets not forget he's managed over here before.
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Post by stokecityhorrorstory on Jan 13, 2018 13:17:45 GMT
Sorry you’ve got this the wrong way round - what has he achieved compared to O’Neill ? Mass hysteria because the bloke looks a bit trendy and has an exotic name! Don't forget that beard. Its a belter! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 13:20:21 GMT
But you just tried to sell a guy who drives a Ferrari a Cortina Mk4 of a club owned by a dinosaur.
IMAGE IMAGE IMAGE I keep on about it. This is what has to change.
MON is a good second hand car dealer with a rusty Jag that he earned when he was younger. He has some credit with older fans who remember his good period.
I would take him before, Sam Lomgball Allardyce, Roy Bodgeup Hodgson, David Dour Moyes, Carlos who Carvalhal and Alan Brighton Beach Pardew.
He loves criminology and has an OBE ... he is not a bad bloke if he comes he is probably better than we deserve.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 13, 2018 13:20:43 GMT
Sorry you’ve got this the wrong way round - what has he achieved compared to O’Neill ? Mass hysteria because the bloke looks a bit trendy and has an exotic name! I think in the modern era image can get you a long way particularly where attracting players is concerned. This was proven with Hughes when he first joined. Can you see Shaq or Bojan signing for TP. I just don't see MON attracting decent players especially if he's only here for 5 months. It's the whole package not just records. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 13:21:01 GMT
Sorry you’ve got this the wrong way round - what has he achieved compared to O’Neill ? Mass hysteria because the bloke looks a bit trendy and has an exotic name! Don't forget that beard. Its a belter!  |
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Post by zigazaga on Jan 13, 2018 13:21:14 GMT
O'Neil is the better option.
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Post by infullerwetrust on Jan 13, 2018 13:21:43 GMT
No he’s not. End of
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 13, 2018 13:22:04 GMT
Sorry you’ve got this the wrong way round - what has he achieved compared to O’Neill ? Mass hysteria because the bloke looks a bit trendy and has an exotic name! It’s nothing to do with what he looks like. He was a reasonably contemporary appointment with a decent recent pedigree when we were all bracing ourselves for a tiresome dinosaur whose best days were a decade ago or more like MON, Bruce or Megson. |
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Post by chuckrocky on Jan 13, 2018 13:22:09 GMT
Sorry you’ve got this the wrong way round - what has he achieved compared to O’Neill ? Mass hysteria because the bloke looks a bit trendy and has an exotic name! He’s won a European trophy for starters. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 13:22:39 GMT
Peter Coates choice
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 13, 2018 13:22:54 GMT
But you just tried to sell a guy who drives a Ferrari a Cortina Mk4 of a club owned by a dinosaur. IMAGE IMAGE IMAGE I keep on about it. This is what has to change. MON is a good second hand car dealer with a rusty Jag that he earned when he was younger. He has some credit with older fans who remember his good period. I would take him before, Sam Lomgball Allardyce, Roy Bodgeup Hodgson, David Dour Moyes, Carlos who Carvalhal and Alan Brighton Beach Pardew. He loves criminology and has an OBE ... he is not a bad bloke if he comes he is probably better than we deserve. O Neill is every bit as longball as Allardyce. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 13:23:04 GMT
Hello QSF, would you like to manage Stoke? No. Ok. Hello MON, would you like to manage Stoke? YES. Ok. See you on Monday!
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Post by sportsman on Jan 13, 2018 13:23:12 GMT
Simple. MON you would think would be a safe option and get them organised as well as playing decent stuff over the years, QSF would have been an exciting gamble, that's all.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 13, 2018 13:25:07 GMT
Simple. MON you would think would be a safe option and get them organised as well as playing decent stuff over the years, QSF would have been an exciting gamble, that's all. QSF is all about organisation. That’s the defining characteristic of his football. |
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Post by Kjones9 on Jan 13, 2018 13:25:57 GMT
Because since about Wednesday it's been between them 2?
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Post by Fred Ferret on Jan 13, 2018 13:28:55 GMT
It's the equivalent of us trying to buy a Ferrari and settling for a Nissan Micra. All these stories over the last week about us trying to bring in a flamboyant new manager with money to spend and a 5 year plan. Surely if it's fallen through our backup plan should be someone similar. A manager with charisma, fresh ideas and attractive to players. To make do with an O'Neill or Bilic will say a lot about what the Board really want. You cant go from big ideas with a promise to spend to a stop gap with loans without the fans being suspicious that the initial option was just a ploy to make the fans think we're being ambitious when it simply isn't the case. The idea of having QSF really gave a lot of hope to fans now we'll just feel sunk again. Scholes out!!! before he causes any more damage to our great club. Hysteria! We never had QSF, proven by the fact he's turned down the option. We haven't turned him down! These things happen - give your head a wobble! |
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Post by sportsman on Jan 13, 2018 13:29:02 GMT
For the possible excitement of QSF, it could have been fun and risky with it. On the face of you know MON wouldn't have to take long to settle straight in and get going.
Flores could have taken longer, and had off field settling in difficulties distracting him.
And as Le Tiss just said, with Southampton being right there with Stoke, he hopes we don't get MON.
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Post by sportsman on Jan 13, 2018 13:29:34 GMT
Simple. MON you would think would be a safe option and get them organised as well as playing decent stuff over the years, QSF would have been an exciting gamble, that's all. QSF is all about organisation. That’s the defining characteristic of his football. What and MON doesn't? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 13:29:41 GMT
Hello QSF, would you like to manage Stoke? No. Ok. Hello MON, would you like to manage Stoke? YES. Ok. See you on Monday! |
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Post by stokemark on Jan 13, 2018 13:31:07 GMT
O'Neil is the better option. No he's not |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 13:31:31 GMT
But you just tried to sell a guy who drives a Ferrari a Cortina Mk4 of a club owned by a dinosaur. IMAGE IMAGE IMAGE I keep on about it. This is what has to change. MON is a good second hand car dealer with a rusty Jag that he earned when he was younger. He has some credit with older fans who remember his good period. I would take him before, Sam Lomgball Allardyce, Roy Bodgeup Hodgson, David Dour Moyes, Carlos who Carvalhal and Alan Brighton Beach Pardew. He loves criminology and has an OBE ... he is not a bad bloke if he comes he is probably better than we deserve. O Neill is every bit as longball as Allardyce. Well I've watched his football for 30 years and it never has been long ball. What he does with N. Ireland and half the old Stoke squad is a matter of necessity. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 13, 2018 13:31:43 GMT
QSF is all about organisation. That’s the defining characteristic of his football. What and MON doesn't? I didn’t say that no. You seemed to be suggesting QSF would be this gung ho fancy dan. He’s just as much about organisation. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 13:31:46 GMT
Hello QSF, would you like to manage Stoke? No. Ok. Hello MON, would you like to manage Stoke? YES. Ok. See you on Monday! Hello MON, would you like to manage Stoke? Yes. Ok, be right back. Hello QSF, would you like to manage Stoke? No. Ok. Hello MON, would you like to still manage Stoke? Fuck off. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 13:32:53 GMT
A new broom, sweeps clean. This is what Stoke need, to clean the rubbish out of our squad. Shambles. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence can see it. I just hope they get a positive new man in. As to who, I'm not really sure, but we do not want a stop gap in!
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