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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 13, 2018 14:12:35 GMT
I don't want an 'exotic' manager, I want one who will keep us up.
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Post by professorplump on Jan 13, 2018 14:14:11 GMT
People were saying the same thing about David Moyes a couple of months ago. People are talking about Moyes now as if he’s the second coming of Rinus Michaels. He’s done better than the rock-bottom expectations that existed of him. They have two more points than we do. He’s won three of 11 games. They’re still right in the mix. I'll throw Roy Hodgson at you as well as another example of an unglamorous name that has done well. I'll bet no one on here would have wanted him at Stoke. I think as a club we are now boxed into a corner and will have to settle for a MON or a McLaren or a Monk if we want the new manager to be able to use the transfer window.
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Post by stokemark on Jan 13, 2018 14:17:08 GMT
I don't want an 'exotic' manager, I want one who will keep us up. Who's that then ?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 13, 2018 14:17:25 GMT
People are talking about Moyes now as if he’s the second coming of Rinus Michaels. He’s done better than the rock-bottom expectations that existed of him. They have two more points than we do. He’s won three of 11 games. They’re still right in the mix. I'll throw Roy Hodgson at you as well as another example of an unglamorous name that has done well. I'll bet no one on here would have wanted him at Stoke. I think as a club we are now boxed into a corner and will have to settle for a MON or a McLaren or a Monk if we want the new manager to be able to use the transfer window. I think anyone who knows their football could have foreseen Hodgson doing a reasonable job at a club like Palace. He’s a decent manager for middling clubs, but a disaster in bigger jobs. I think you’re right in that we’ll have to make do now and MON, bleakly, is somehow one of the least worst options, but I can’t muster one iota of enthusiasm for him.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 13, 2018 14:24:05 GMT
Easy,give Scholes the money to buy a sports car for you,he will come back with a Reliant Robin and no change.
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Post by stokiejoe on Jan 13, 2018 14:29:26 GMT
Just watched the Cardiff v Sunderland match Frightening that Sunderland are bottom and adrift in Championship and just lost to Cardiff 4-0 So much for bouncing back up, lots of money spent and great support but results against them. Not a blueprint to follow.
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Post by fca47 on Jan 13, 2018 14:45:06 GMT
It is going to be embarrassing to go after someone who know they're not the first choice. But Everton have done the same, but unfortunately most of the people available now have jobs.MON probably the best we can do, unless we are willing to take a big risk. O'Neil had only done well with a non league side before he got the Leicester job, perhaps we should take a chance on Potter, who has done pretty much the same.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jan 13, 2018 14:47:53 GMT
Hello MON, would you like to manage Stoke? Yes. Ok, be right back. Hello QSF, would you like to manage Stoke? No. Ok. Hello MON, would you like to still manage Stoke? Fuck off. ^This^ followed with MON: “err actually go on then but I’ll have the deal QSF turned down” (MON rubs hands together)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 14:54:51 GMT
The fact is if we had got QSF or MON we are still desperately hoping one of them could produce a miracle and keep us up.
I still say that the money to spend and future money is more of a factor and to leave Hughes with that money would have been a criminal act with his record on signings.
Is there no chance we could pry Rafa out of Newcastle he must be ready to walk on them with no transfer funds.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 16:00:07 GMT
Hello MON, would you like to manage Stoke? Yes. Ok, be right back. Hello QSF, would you like to manage Stoke? No. Ok. Hello MON, would you like to still manage Stoke? Fuck off. ^This^ followed with MON: “err actually go on then but I’ll have the deal QSF turned down” (MON rubs hands together) probably
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Post by wuzza on Jan 13, 2018 16:05:10 GMT
The way things have gone I think we should be extremely grateful if we do manage to convince MON to come. If he turns it down we are floundering (to use the politest word I could muster).
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jan 13, 2018 16:10:40 GMT
This is what you get for pissing about. It was obvious ages ago that Hughes was a busted flush, but our chairman thought he knew better. Now we're going to appoint someone no fucker else wants. Joke of a club.
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Post by stokeykez on Jan 13, 2018 16:14:13 GMT
It must be one of the trickiest jobs ever trying to get someone to sign. you' re selling a real sinking ship and they will be responsible for either sinking or swimming, why should they come if they are not money orientated.
Not everyone wants money
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 16:17:01 GMT
QSF this is Big Tone Scholes here, what's this I've heard you say you have had a change of mind about being our next gaffer. So what's brought this on, QSF, I'm looking at Ighalo again to come with me, £20million they want for him, think he'd give us a great chance to stay up,
Tone, Tone, you there, TONE You still there, hello, hello!!
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Post by harrysburrow on Jan 13, 2018 16:27:35 GMT
It must be one of the trickiest jobs ever trying to get someone to sign. you' re selling a real sinking ship and they will be responsible for either sinking or swimming, why should they come if they are not money orientated. Not everyone wants money We are trying to sell a sinking ship mate, isn't Rafa the manager of another one though? It's a strange world.
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Post by rrrrleek on Jan 13, 2018 16:43:49 GMT
He can fuck off go 4 oneil now move on from this foreign manager
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jan 13, 2018 16:55:38 GMT
It must be one of the trickiest jobs ever trying to get someone to sign. you' re selling a real sinking ship and they will be responsible for either sinking or swimming, why should they come if they are not money orientated. Not everyone wants money We are trying to sell a sinking ship mate, isn't Rafa the manager of another one though? It's a strange world. We are only a sinking ship due to utter incompetence and complacency, though. All this was avoidable.
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Post by smallthorner on Jan 13, 2018 16:56:55 GMT
The way things have gone I think we should be extremely grateful if we do manage to convince MON to come. If he turns it down we are floundering (to us the politest word I could muster). Yes... that's my big fear. MON is best of a bad bunch at moment. This could be extremely embarrassing. Sneaky feeling Lambert will be our Manager next week.
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Post by westgatelakes on Jan 13, 2018 17:11:14 GMT
This also gives MoN an excellent platform to negotiate a better contract for himself if indeed he is 2nd choice. He will be aware that Stoke need a manager desperately so the bidding will definitely start higher than if he were 1st choice
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Post by spoton on Jan 13, 2018 17:27:16 GMT
So it looks like Dennis Smith then
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Post by blooter on Jan 13, 2018 17:48:33 GMT
I must have been one of the very few that would take O'Neil over QSF.
The latter had achieved fuck all and has very limited knowledge of the Premier League. He would have probably just brought more fancy dan journeymen who couldn't give a fuck about the club. We have too many of those already.
ideally let's tap Rafa up over the weekend. He looks totally fucked off.
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Post by Davef on Jan 13, 2018 17:59:20 GMT
So it looks like Dennis Smith then At least get the great man's name right.
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Post by Davef on Jan 13, 2018 18:01:32 GMT
The fact is if we had got QSF or MON we are still desperately hoping one of them could produce a miracle and keep us up. I still say that the money to spend and future money is more of a factor and to leave Hughes with that money would have been a criminal act with his record on signings. Is there no chance we could pry Rafa out of Newcastle he must be ready to walk on them with no transfer funds. Do you really think it would be a "miracle" to finish better than Swansea, Bournemouth, West Brom, Brighton and Huddersfield this season?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 18:09:00 GMT
This classic unfolding Stoke City hosted pantomine, just like the amount of time it took to fill in one corner with a few hundred bloody seats - all over again, just screams at you:- 'small-town outfit' and rather sadly, not a true City capable organisation 'minded' in its top business culture of, hosting a Premier league football club. .ie.utterly hopeless (well these-days)'Little people' trying to run a big enterprise
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 18:20:27 GMT
The fact is if we had got QSF or MON we are still desperately hoping one of them could produce a miracle and keep us up. I still say that the money to spend and future money is more of a factor and to leave Hughes with that money would have been a criminal act with his record on signings. Is there no chance we could pry Rafa out of Newcastle he must be ready to walk on them with no transfer funds. Do you really think it would be a "miracle" to finish better than Swansea, Bournemouth, West Brom, Brighton and Huddersfield this season? Yup. We have no defence and no goals. Most teams have one or the other we have both. Oh and now we have no manager and no transfer window. The things we don't have are beginning to outnumber the things we do have. I'm despondent and can't understand why it took the Coventry defeat to open the owners eyes, just what were they watching while we were losing, losing and losing. Selling our best player to a relegation contender is sheer madness. He should have been sold abroad. I'm not blaming them for QSF puling out on us ,but they must take the blame for the mess we are in and the lack of other credible alternatives. Trying to limp through the season with Hughes while having the funds to change things smacks of short term planning and incompetence. I expect Swansea to go down the other two places are open but at the moment we favourite to join them.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 13, 2018 18:20:40 GMT
The fact is if we had got QSF or MON we are still desperately hoping one of them could produce a miracle and keep us up. I still say that the money to spend and future money is more of a factor and to leave Hughes with that money would have been a criminal act with his record on signings. Is there no chance we could pry Rafa out of Newcastle he must be ready to walk on them with no transfer funds. A miracle!? This is just about organisation, we have a squad way too good to go down! I actually think most managers with a bit of obvious defensive ability will keep us up! There is even money to spend! A left back (competition for Pieters), a defensive midfielder (why didn't we go for Coquelin) and another striker (Slimani) and we will certainly be fighting for a top ten position again!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 18:32:50 GMT
The fact is if we had got QSF or MON we are still desperately hoping one of them could produce a miracle and keep us up. I still say that the money to spend and future money is more of a factor and to leave Hughes with that money would have been a criminal act with his record on signings. Is there no chance we could pry Rafa out of Newcastle he must be ready to walk on them with no transfer funds. A miracle!? This is just about organisation, we have a squad way too good to go down! I actually think most managers with a bit of obvious defensive ability will keep us up! There is even money to spend! A left back (competition for Pieters), a defensive midfielder (why didn't we go for Coquelin) and another striker (Slimani) and we will certainly be fighting for a top ten position again! But we (those of us with eyes) have been asking for competition for Pieters for two seasons. As well as fully being aware of our short cummings in defence, yet we end up playing with kids thrown in at the deep end. Even with a loan we have been desperate for defenders. Oh how we could have used Munni even if he was not fit for all games. We have regressed into playing a striker who has not been a first team starter for most of his career as our best hope for a goal. In short we are Toothless. In midfield we have a skilled guy whose body language says I don't want to be here, a headless chicken and a guy who would struggle to beat me on a zimmer frame. Sorry anyone who gets these players organised into a TEAM is a miracle worker.
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Post by Roger Everyone on Jan 13, 2018 18:33:01 GMT
surely O'Neil will turn it down now ? Why would you want to take the job as second choice ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 18:37:23 GMT
Do you really think it would be a "miracle" to finish better than Swansea, Bournemouth, West Brom, Brighton and Huddersfield this season? Yup. We have no defence and no goals. Most teams have one or the other we have both. Oh and now we have no manager and no transfer window. The things we don't have are beginning to outnumber the things we do have. I'm despondent and can't understand why it took the Coventry defeat to open the owners eyes, just what were they watching while we were losing, losing and losing. Selling our best player to a relegation contender is sheer madness. He should have been sold abroad. I'm not blaming them for QSF puling out on us ,but they must take the blame for the mess we are in and the lack of other credible alternatives. Trying to limp through the season with Hughes while having the funds to change things smacks of short term planning and incompetence. I expect Swansea to go down the other two places are open but at the moment we favourite to join them. I honestly think that Hughes going improved our chances of staying up. We need someone to get them fit and organised and we'll be fine. Some of the comments on here defy belief. It looks like a forum for pre-pubescent school girls. Hughes should have gone much sooner and ideally in the Summer and that's the club's big mistake. However it is what it is and we move on. If it's MON so be it. We'll still be OK.
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Post by jwhpotter on Jan 13, 2018 18:41:40 GMT
surely O'Neil will turn it down now ? Why would you want to take the job as second choice ? Maybe the millions of pounds on wages will persuade him
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