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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 19:01:42 GMT
Potentially one of our worst ever signings? He has to be in the top three. Add Imbula, Wimmer and Palacios. So Risom, Svaerd et al have finally been forgiven?
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Post by bobk on Jan 6, 2018 19:01:45 GMT
The best players are the hardest workers ....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 19:02:37 GMT
He scored one pen i think, maybe 2. No but he drives forward with the ball. We needed that. Starting roles I think Diouf and Crouch have been dreadful. Berahino can move, Crouch can't. Berahino can take a touch which doesnt go 30 yards away from his feet, Diouf can't. Saido isn't perfect but he definitely deserves a run up front with 3 creative players behind him. Sorry on today's showing he deserves to be sent to play with the reserves. He looks ponderous, slow and disinterested Fair enough if you've seen today's game and seen it that way. For me, he's the only striker who hasn't had a run there. I'd rather drive a nail through my bollock than watch Crouch start for us, and I don't think Diouf's touch or finishing is good enough to start. Saido is the only one who I'm not sure about finishing, because he hasn't played, but i know his touch has looked decent and he's got a brain to get in behind.
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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 6, 2018 19:03:39 GMT
Part of me died with that Berahino performance today. He didn’t even look up to non-League standard. I genuinely can’t think of a single thing he did well/right. He even ran over to take a quick throw and then (correctly) had a foul throw awarded against him. I’m afraid BT Sports have called this one right. 😞 you called it right in the write up. He is broken!
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Jan 6, 2018 19:04:37 GMT
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Post by chinesedave on Jan 6, 2018 19:04:37 GMT
He was only £12M. A snip.
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Post by bobk on Jan 6, 2018 19:07:04 GMT
He was only £12M. A snip. More fool them for paying it .
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 6, 2018 19:07:31 GMT
Seriously I’m not defending the lad far fucking from it but we’ve created ( until the last 10 minutes ) absolutely fuck all It goes beyond Berahino The chance he missed was pathetic. 8 yards out, all the time in the world, keeper on the floor and he couldn't even strike it cleanly let alone score
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Jan 6, 2018 19:07:56 GMT
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jan 6, 2018 19:07:56 GMT
Sorry on today's showing he deserves to be sent to play with the reserves. He looks ponderous, slow and disinterested Fair enough if you've seen today's game and seen it that way. For me, he's the only striker who hasn't had a run there. I'd rather drive a nail through my bollock than watch Crouch start for us, and I don't think Diouf's touch or finishing is good enough to start. Saido is the only one who I'm not sure about finishing, because he hasn't played, but i know his touch has looked decent and he's got a brain to get in behind. I just don't buy this "makes good runs" line. If he was he'd have scored by now. I actually thought he'd score today with Adam and Ireland playing as both of them can pick a decent pass, but yet again another terrible performance (see also Bristol City). I personally think you are now defending the indefensible but you're entitled to your opinion
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Jan 6, 2018 19:08:50 GMT
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jan 6, 2018 19:08:50 GMT
It's ok he only earns about £70k a week must have astonishing value for.money statistics .
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 6, 2018 19:09:22 GMT
Yeah, because he was our penalty taker. Imbula isn’t creative. He has two assists to his name in his entire career. Berahino has contributed less than either Crouch or Diouf on just about every level. Diouf in particular is no world beater but I can’t think of one thing Berahino does better than him. He scored one pen i think, maybe 2. No but he drives forward with the ball. We needed that. Starting roles I think Diouf and Crouch have been dreadful. Berahino can move, Crouch can't. Berahino can take a touch which doesnt go 30 yards away from his feet, Diouf can't. Saido isn't perfect but he definitely deserves a run up front with 3 creative players behind him. If you'd been there today you would completely and utterly change your mind. That was a fourth division defence he had 90 minutes against and did literally nothing.
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Post by chuckrocky on Jan 6, 2018 19:10:14 GMT
We’re quite lucky really, if Pulis wasn’t such a bitter twat, we’d have paid over £20m for him twelve months earlier.
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Post by felonious on Jan 6, 2018 19:13:40 GMT
I'm not having a go for not watching it, just forming opinions from Bt sport isn't the best. Because Hughes is shit scared. We've played crouch for weeks on end despite him being shit since starting. 3 league starts this season. 2 games where he's played pretty damn well. only 2 league starts with decent creativity around him. Everyone has a past, that's a long time ago. If employers take that much heed of things people have done in their past then a hell of a lot would have no job. He isn't doing drugs now and he isn't drink driving now. I’m not forming an opinion based on quotes from BT Sport, I’m highlighting that people outside of the club are now saying what a disgrace he is. I’ve seen every one of his competitive starts other than today and he hasn’t had a single good game. He just doesn’t contribute or have an effect on the game whatsoever. He’s not playing because he’s no good. Simple. Arsenal at home?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 6, 2018 19:17:07 GMT
Yeah, because he was our penalty taker. Imbula isn’t creative. He has two assists to his name in his entire career. Berahino has contributed less than either Crouch or Diouf on just about every level. Diouf in particular is no world beater but I can’t think of one thing Berahino does better than him. He scored one pen i think, maybe 2. No but he drives forward with the ball. We needed that. Starting roles I think Diouf and Crouch have been dreadful. Berahino can move, Crouch can't. Berahino can take a touch which doesnt go 30 yards away from his feet, Diouf can't. Saido isn't perfect but he definitely deserves a run up front with 3 creative players behind him. Driving forward with the ball doesn’t count for much if 1) You then hold onto it for an age so the change goes begging 2) You can’t be arsed to chase back when we lose possession ‘Deserves’? Seriously? Berahino isn’t exactly mr mobility and for all Diouf’s faults as far as his first touch goes he actually has some sort of impact on games.
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Post by superheroantonius on Jan 6, 2018 19:25:47 GMT
I was behind the goal row e When some one crossed the ball onto his head about 6 yards out and he ducked under the cross to avoid heading It. Shameful
Just an awful player
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 19:26:36 GMT
He scored one pen i think, maybe 2. No but he drives forward with the ball. We needed that. Starting roles I think Diouf and Crouch have been dreadful. Berahino can move, Crouch can't. Berahino can take a touch which doesnt go 30 yards away from his feet, Diouf can't. Saido isn't perfect but he definitely deserves a run up front with 3 creative players behind him. Driving forward with the ball doesn’t count for much if 1) You then hold onto it for an age so the change goes begging 2) You can’t be arsed to chase back when we lose possession ‘Deserves’? Seriously? Berahino isn’t exactly mr mobility and for all Diouf’s faults as far as his first touch goes he actually has some sort of impact on games. True re: imbula. But again, our midfield was so horrific last (and this really) year that I could stand those problems just to have a midfielder who could hold the ball and move us forwards. Over the others, yes. Diouf has been lazy and poor since the Spurs game, he's woefully out of form, as is Crouch.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Jan 6, 2018 19:28:45 GMT
No I haven’t watched the game. I refuse to waste any more money watching these gutless wasters. He has barely played? Why hasn’t he? Because he puts in no effort and cannot affect the game in a positive way at all. 13 starts and plenty of sub appearances and I can count on one hand the number of shots on target he’s managed. Not a professional at all. Then add in his previous drugs abuse, nitrous oxide abuse and drink driving. Then you get a feel for the measure of the boy. I'm not having a go for not watching it, just forming opinions from Bt sport isn't the best. Because Hughes is shit scared. We've played crouch for weeks on end despite him being shit since starting. 3 league starts this season. 2 games where he's played pretty damn well. only 2 league starts with decent creativity around him. Everyone has a past, that's a long time ago. If employers take that much heed of things people have done in their past then a hell of a lot would have no job. He isn't doing drugs now and he isn't drink driving now. I follow Stoke home and away, but I'm not sure that I've ever seen him play well if I'm being honest. He's not a Premier League striker.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 19:29:44 GMT
Fair enough if you've seen today's game and seen it that way. For me, he's the only striker who hasn't had a run there. I'd rather drive a nail through my bollock than watch Crouch start for us, and I don't think Diouf's touch or finishing is good enough to start. Saido is the only one who I'm not sure about finishing, because he hasn't played, but i know his touch has looked decent and he's got a brain to get in behind. I just don't buy this "makes good runs" line. If he was he'd have scored by now. I actually thought he'd score today with Adam and Ireland playing as both of them can pick a decent pass, but yet again another terrible performance (see also Bristol City). I personally think you are now defending the indefensible but you're entitled to your opinion He's started 3 league games. One of which in front of the slowest midfield in history, one he played well in and nearly scored, and one the whole team played awfully. He's not perfect but our other strikers are massively out of form and he's the only one we haven't given a run of games to.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 19:30:27 GMT
I'm not having a go for not watching it, just forming opinions from Bt sport isn't the best. Because Hughes is shit scared. We've played crouch for weeks on end despite him being shit since starting. 3 league starts this season. 2 games where he's played pretty damn well. only 2 league starts with decent creativity around him. Everyone has a past, that's a long time ago. If employers take that much heed of things people have done in their past then a hell of a lot would have no job. He isn't doing drugs now and he isn't drink driving now. I follow Stoke home and away, but I'm not sure that I've ever seen him play well if I'm being honest. He's not a Premier League striker. I'm quoting specifically Chelsea where he had a decent game, and Saints at home where he showed he had promise and a bit of quality.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Jan 6, 2018 19:35:02 GMT
I follow Stoke home and away, but I'm not sure that I've ever seen him play well if I'm being honest. He's not a Premier League striker. I'm quoting specifically Chelsea where he had a decent game, and Saints at home where he showed he had promise and a bit of quality. We are setting the bar pretty low then *WinkyFace* I've been desperate for him to succeed but it's time to admit that we've had a nightmare with him. The fee, the wages, the off the pitch issues and then just plain poor performances on the pitch. I think that we should be expecting a hell of a lot more from THE most expensive striker in our club's history.
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Post by bhp on Jan 6, 2018 19:36:04 GMT
I'm not being funny but how can you sign a player who:
1. Hasn't played regularly for at least a season before he signed for us because of the fiasco at West Brom.
2. Scoring 14 goals in ONE season, then the season after scoring 4 in 31.
At the time, based on these facts, why the fuck did we fork out £12/15m on him thinking he'd solve our goalscoring issues?? Is absolutely beyond me.
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Post by Block 22 on Jan 6, 2018 19:36:06 GMT
All these comments and we still haven’t given him a decent goal scoring chance or even a half chance for that matter. It appears Saido is the scape goat. There were only 3 players worth noting today. Ramadan was absolutely brilliant second half, the best I’ve seen him. Tom Edwards was solid. Joe Allen ran his bollocks off. Still think under new management Berahino will score, time will tell.
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Post by liathroid on Jan 6, 2018 19:36:32 GMT
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Post by basingstokie on Jan 6, 2018 19:36:35 GMT
The best players are the hardest workers .... thats what we need now. Delap, Walters, Dicko, Wilko etc would get us out of this mess. Not the most talented but they'd roll their sleeves up and die for the shirt
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 19:38:55 GMT
I'm quoting specifically Chelsea where he had a decent game, and Saints at home where he showed he had promise and a bit of quality. We are setting the bar pretty low then *WinkyFace* I've been desperate for him to succeed but it's time to admit that we've had a nightmare with him. The fee, the wages, the off the pitch issues and then just plain poor performances on the pitch. I think that we should be expecting a hell of a lot more from THE most expensive striker in our club's history. Yep unfortunately we are, he's played better in those games than our other strikers have. The fee really isn't that much nowadays. I don't know what his wages are. His off the pitch issues were before he came here, and I really don't think he's had more than one poor performance in the league this season (haven't watched him in the cup). That means nothing with the inflation of fees in the past few years, Van Dijk is the most expensive defender in the world. He's a good premier league defender, but not world class.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 19:39:50 GMT
Add Imbula, Wimmer and Palacios. So Risom, Svaerd et al have finally been forgiven? They didn't cost 50 million quid
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Post by songthrush01 on Jan 6, 2018 19:40:23 GMT
what gets me is the club,yes the club,which means the owners chased after this guy for 2 years and paid was it 15 mill.and people say that the owners know there football,do me a favour.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jan 6, 2018 19:40:35 GMT
All these comments and we still haven’t given him a decent goal scoring chance or even a half chance for that matter. It appears Saido is the scape goat. There were only 3 players worth noting today. Ramadan was absolutely brilliant second half, the best I’ve seen him. Tom Edwards was solid. Joe Allen ran his bollocks off. Still think under new management Berahino will score, time will tell. Block, what do you make of Saunders comments about Berahino not being fit, surely being fit is SB's responsibility?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 6, 2018 19:41:33 GMT
Berahino is fucking shit, any other opinion is invalid but what the fuck is Saunders blathering on about, there? Absolute bollocks.
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Post by Sfance on Jan 6, 2018 19:41:44 GMT
But the runs, aah, those magnificent runs. . . . Where would we be without the runs. (Perhaps he should take up cricket?)
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Post by bobk on Jan 6, 2018 19:43:11 GMT
The best players are the hardest workers .... thats what we need now. Delap, Walters, Dicko, Wilko etc would get us out of this mess. Not the most talented but they'd roll their sleeves up and die for the shirt Was actually thinking Aguero , Coutinho , De Bruyne Gerrard etc ..... but see where you're coming from .
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