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Post by crapslinger on Jan 6, 2018 17:13:13 GMT
But he's a top top player, have you not all seen him on You Tube... Makes some lovely runs
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Berahino
Jan 6, 2018 17:14:53 GMT
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jan 6, 2018 17:14:53 GMT
Potentially one of our worst ever signings?
He has to be in the top three.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 17:16:03 GMT
Potentially one of our worst ever signings? He has to be in the top three. Add Imbula, Wimmer and Palacios.
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 6, 2018 17:16:06 GMT
A lot of people said at the time that this signing would be the one that potentially sunk Mark Hughes. That's exactly how it's panned out.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 17:17:56 GMT
Get the useless fucking cunt out of our club NOW. WHICH ONE ?????? (theres a big choice)
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Post by werrington on Jan 6, 2018 17:19:59 GMT
Seriously I’m not defending the lad far fucking from it but we’ve created ( until the last 10 minutes ) absolutely fuck all
It goes beyond Berahino
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 6, 2018 17:20:04 GMT
He also is singularly failing to grasp the opportunities he’s given, be it sub cameos in the prem or 90 minutes against the Burys and Coventrys. Him and the others you’re prone to defending, like Imbula and Bojan, have to take some responsibility for their own performances at some point surely? They do yes! I think in 2 of the 3 starts he's had this season he's shown enough to start games. He has then been dropped straight after. I defend Bojan and Imbula because i think that we're not in the position to loan out players like that with or without their flaws. And I despise that Mark Hughes randomly decides he doesn't like players any more and they don't get chances. It's a massive waste and it seems to be completely random (yet only flair/attacking players). What has he shown? He’s not quick. He’s not strong. He doesn’t score goals. He has no influence on games. He doesn’t get on the ball much. Imbula is a lost cause and Bojan wanted to play more and we rightly couldn’t guarantee him games.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Jan 6, 2018 17:21:12 GMT
Get the useless fucking cunt out of our club NOW. WHICH ONE ?????? (theres a big choice) Times up Hippo!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 17:24:29 GMT
They do yes! I think in 2 of the 3 starts he's had this season he's shown enough to start games. He has then been dropped straight after. I defend Bojan and Imbula because i think that we're not in the position to loan out players like that with or without their flaws. And I despise that Mark Hughes randomly decides he doesn't like players any more and they don't get chances. It's a massive waste and it seems to be completely random (yet only flair/attacking players). What has he shown? He’s not quick. He’s not strong. He doesn’t score goals. He has no influence on games. He doesn’t get on the ball much. Imbula is a lost cause and Bojan wanted to play more and we rightly couldn’t guarantee him games. Against Chelsea and Saints he showed he had strength and could hold it up and link the play well. Imbula had his flaws, but he was needed in a midfield that had no drive last year. Bojan is better than what we have. We don't have any number 10 besides Ireland. He also hadnt started more than 2 games in a row since april 2016. Not had nearly enough chance to show he shouldn't have been starting, especially considering Joe Allen was at 10 for the entire season.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 18:00:18 GMT
Get off his back FFS. Had it not been for that lovely pass to Jese we'd be right in the shit now...
14 Million and 80K a week is a bloody bargain for that pass....Watch it again...World class I tell ya.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 6, 2018 18:00:22 GMT
What has he shown? He’s not quick. He’s not strong. He doesn’t score goals. He has no influence on games. He doesn’t get on the ball much. Imbula is a lost cause and Bojan wanted to play more and we rightly couldn’t guarantee him games. Against Chelsea and Saints he showed he had strength and could hold it up and link the play well. Imbula had his flaws, but he was needed in a midfield that had no drive last year. Bojan is better than what we have. We don't have any number 10 besides Ireland. He also hadnt started more than 2 games in a row since april 2016. Not had nearly enough chance to show he shouldn't have been starting, especially considering Joe Allen was at 10 for the entire season. Bojan can’t get into a team in a La Liga relegation battle. He did nowt at Metz and wasn’t doing much here. At his best he’s better than anything we’d got but he wasn’t at his best and hadn’t been anywhere near it for a long time. Imbula isn’t doing a lot on loan and you can’t play a bloke as one of your deeper midfielders who has no defensive awareness. His decision making was awful too. All he could do was bring it forward. I think the best that can be said about Berahino against Southampton is that he wasn’t flat-out terrible. But it still wasn’t a performance that screamed he was the answer to anything. The idea of them all might be great but the reality on the pitch really hasn’t been.
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Post by jonnyo on Jan 6, 2018 18:02:03 GMT
Won't score if he plays every game until the end of the season. Time to get him out on loan to the championship in this window. A terrible, terrible signing.
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 6, 2018 18:07:13 GMT
I don't think we should ever play him again to be honest.
I'd rather see N'Goy, Campbell or any of the U18s in the team ahead of him. Offer him for free and see if any club is willing to take over his contract- the bloke is that bad. £12m....Jesus fucking Christ.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 18:18:26 GMT
Against Chelsea and Saints he showed he had strength and could hold it up and link the play well. Imbula had his flaws, but he was needed in a midfield that had no drive last year. Bojan is better than what we have. We don't have any number 10 besides Ireland. He also hadnt started more than 2 games in a row since april 2016. Not had nearly enough chance to show he shouldn't have been starting, especially considering Joe Allen was at 10 for the entire season. Bojan can’t get into a team in a La Liga relegation battle. He did nowt at Metz and wasn’t doing much here. At his best he’s better than anything we’d got but he wasn’t at his best and hadn’t been anywhere near it for a long time. Imbula isn’t doing a lot on loan and you can’t play a bloke as one of your deeper midfielders who has no defensive awareness. His decision making was awful too. All he could do was bring it forward. I think the best that can be said about Berahino against Southampton is that he wasn’t flat-out terrible. But it still wasn’t a performance that screamed he was the answer to anything. The idea of them all might be great but the reality on the pitch really hasn’t been. He was second top scorer the last time he started more than 2 games in a row. He's better than what we have, even on poor form. Imbula has big issues, but we were shite anyway and had nothing creative in midfield after loaning bojan out. It wasn't the perfect performance by any means but he showed more than Crouch and Diouf have done.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 6, 2018 18:27:46 GMT
Bojan can’t get into a team in a La Liga relegation battle. He did nowt at Metz and wasn’t doing much here. At his best he’s better than anything we’d got but he wasn’t at his best and hadn’t been anywhere near it for a long time. Imbula isn’t doing a lot on loan and you can’t play a bloke as one of your deeper midfielders who has no defensive awareness. His decision making was awful too. All he could do was bring it forward. I think the best that can be said about Berahino against Southampton is that he wasn’t flat-out terrible. But it still wasn’t a performance that screamed he was the answer to anything. The idea of them all might be great but the reality on the pitch really hasn’t been. He was second top scorer the last time he started more than 2 games in a row. He's better than what we have, even on poor form. Imbula has big issues, but we were shite anyway and had nothing creative in midfield after loaning bojan out. It wasn't the perfect performance by any means but he showed more than Crouch and Diouf have done. Yeah, because he was our penalty taker. Imbula isn’t creative. He has two assists to his name in his entire career. Berahino has contributed less than either Crouch or Diouf on just about every level. Diouf in particular is no world beater but I can’t think of one thing Berahino does better than him.
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Post by Davef on Jan 6, 2018 18:30:31 GMT
Stealing a living. He makes Tony Ellis look like Gerd Muller.
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Berahino
Jan 6, 2018 18:31:59 GMT
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 6, 2018 18:31:59 GMT
Berahino was absolutely fucking dreadful today.
Disinterested, poor first touch, slow (at one point in second half he got beaten to the ball with a two yard head start), not much run making. Awful.
A championship striker at best. Unless another PL club can get him fit, lean and trying which would say a lot about our coaching set up that we can't.
Zouma was ok, Adam and Allen ok, Ramadan ok, Shaq and Crouch good when they came on, everyone else awful. Butland beaten at his near post by a right foot shot from a fourth division right full back! Fuck off!
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Post by Smudge_SCFC on Jan 6, 2018 18:41:16 GMT
Part of me died with that Berahino performance today. He didn’t even look up to non-League standard.
I genuinely can’t think of a single thing he did well/right. He even ran over to take a quick throw and then (correctly) had a foul throw awarded against him.
I’m afraid BT Sports have called this one right. 😞
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 6, 2018 18:42:55 GMT
What on earth has happened to him?
He was better than this once............a long time ago............wasn't he?
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Post by fletchthestokie1 on Jan 6, 2018 18:44:39 GMT
Imbula, Berahino and Wimmer. The 3 nails in Marks coffin for me. And Cartwright. He finds these players and presents to Hughes and the ‘transfer team’ and Hughes chooses them. If Hughes goes then Cartwright must go too. Hand in hand. Their judgement has been simply too hit and miss with the misses are just horrendous misses... Saido is completely rubbish. As bad a player as we’ve had in the Prem. NO ability. Poor judgement and character too. Imbula at least scored a goal or two but completely a lazy waster. Who scouted his character?! Wimmer is also rubbish. Two very slow players which is comply a No-No in the Prem.
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Post by stokemark on Jan 6, 2018 18:45:42 GMT
He clearly has got worse over the last few months if that was even possible
Horror signing for a club like us
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Post by senojbor on Jan 6, 2018 18:46:12 GMT
Stealing a living. He makes Tony Ellis look like Gerd Muller. Tony helped us to promotion and he actually scored a lot of goals after he left us!
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Berahino
Jan 6, 2018 18:52:13 GMT
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 6, 2018 18:52:13 GMT
Is it really Ali dia going under another name
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Jan 6, 2018 18:52:23 GMT
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Post by Davef on Jan 6, 2018 18:52:23 GMT
Stealing a living. He makes Tony Ellis look like Gerd Muller. Tony helped us to promotion and he actually scored a lot of goals after he left us! What are you on about?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 18:54:07 GMT
He was second top scorer the last time he started more than 2 games in a row. He's better than what we have, even on poor form. Imbula has big issues, but we were shite anyway and had nothing creative in midfield after loaning bojan out. It wasn't the perfect performance by any means but he showed more than Crouch and Diouf have done. Yeah, because he was our penalty taker. Imbula isn’t creative. He has two assists to his name in his entire career. Berahino has contributed less than either Crouch or Diouf on just about every level. Diouf in particular is no world beater but I can’t think of one thing Berahino does better than him. He scored one pen i think, maybe 2. No but he drives forward with the ball. We needed that. Starting roles I think Diouf and Crouch have been dreadful. Berahino can move, Crouch can't. Berahino can take a touch which doesnt go 30 yards away from his feet, Diouf can't. Saido isn't perfect but he definitely deserves a run up front with 3 creative players behind him.
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Post by numpty40 on Jan 6, 2018 18:56:17 GMT
You haven't watched the game. BT sport have spent plenty of time chatting shit. He hasn't put on a stone of weight. He has barely played so not sure why he's a stain. Plenty wrong with the club, he's not it at the minute. I'd say he embodies everything wrong with the club at the moment along with Wimmer and Imbula. Three expensive signings with absolutely no work ethic or backbone. All three a fucking disgrace.
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Berahino
Jan 6, 2018 18:57:49 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 6, 2018 18:57:49 GMT
You haven't watched the game. BT sport have spent plenty of time chatting shit. He hasn't put on a stone of weight. He has barely played so not sure why he's a stain. Plenty wrong with the club, he's not it at the minute. Basically Dean Saunders spoke to his agent and his agent said he wasn't fit and that he'd put on a stone of weight because he hadn't played Dean Saunders said he should give his wages back if he can't control his weight he's a professional footballer and it's the one thing he should be able to control. It's a fair point Plus isn’t there a thing called training. They do enough of that to keep you in shape.
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Berahino
Jan 6, 2018 18:59:11 GMT
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jan 6, 2018 18:59:11 GMT
Yeah, because he was our penalty taker. Imbula isn’t creative. He has two assists to his name in his entire career. Berahino has contributed less than either Crouch or Diouf on just about every level. Diouf in particular is no world beater but I can’t think of one thing Berahino does better than him. He scored one pen i think, maybe 2. No but he drives forward with the ball. We needed that. Starting roles I think Diouf and Crouch have been dreadful. Berahino can move, Crouch can't. Berahino can take a touch which doesnt go 30 yards away from his feet, Diouf can't. Saido isn't perfect but he definitely deserves a run up front with 3 creative players behind him. Sorry on today's showing he deserves to be sent to play with the reserves. He looks ponderous, slow and disinterested
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 19:00:42 GMT
The Hughes effect - take a half decent player and RUIN him...... Berahino did that all by himself, and he did it even before he came here.
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Post by jzime on Jan 6, 2018 19:01:26 GMT
The entire Berahino saga, frankly, represents everything wrong with the Premier League.
He had one good season at West Brom, one. And as soon as Spurs came knocking, he didn't give a shit about West Brom. He was only a kid and you can certainly understand him being desperate to move, but the way he burnt all of his bridges was disgraceful. In retrospect, he should have realised that (with Kane coming through) he would only have ended up being another Soldado or Janssen anyway. Even if moving was all he cared about, he should have got his head down and played for another big-money move. But instead he just gave up, put on loads of weight and got himself a drugs ban.
There were six months on his contract when we decided to spunk £12m on him. We could have waited until the summer, got him on a pre-contract deal and paid a fraction of what we eventually did via a tribunal fee. But our stupidity and more-money-than-sense approach decided to go in for a player who was unfit to immediately play a role anyway. Then we wasted half a season trying to play him into fitness.
Berahino ruined his own career, and Stoke were stupid enough to indulge him. I won't shed a tear for him or Mark Hughes. Just a massive shame that our football club will take the fall for it.
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