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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 12:05:13 GMT
You're right, he's been shit. They only signed him because he was available and they were running out of options after Tammy Abraham snubbed them for Swansea. Actually they signed him because Benitez had coached him as a junior at Real Madrid and vouched for him.
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Post by chigstoke on Dec 31, 2017 12:05:34 GMT
We really are up shit street if the above is true
Take away Hughes signing power Reduce player wages Further wage cap
If it's true and they've effectively tied Hughes hands as to who he can sign, it's no fucking wonder we haven't signed a credible fucker for Midfield or Defence because Sparky hasn't had a frigging say. Correct Hughes, Cartwright and Scholes are inept. The embryo of a 3 month old baby has less ineptitude.
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Post by sportsman on Dec 31, 2017 12:06:29 GMT
So between given's and Bowen's comments, the board and those in the background should get the pies chucked at them, or pizza.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 12:09:58 GMT
Newcastle forum seems fairly balanced with predictions.....about equal numbers predicting wins, loss and draws.......do they not know just how shit we are? They probably do, but they also know that they are worse themselves.
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Post by sportsman on Dec 31, 2017 12:10:14 GMT
So rather than try and attract further investment onto the board, or get sponsors who can add funds with bet365 handouts, they'd rather cut wages and ambition.
I think the sentinel or radio Stoke need to ask questions, or they would if there wasn't an agreement with them.
Let's hope the national media ask Coates the questions.
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Post by Billy the kid on Dec 31, 2017 12:10:36 GMT
We may not be the worse team in the league, but we sure as shit have the worse defence in the league. With so much money spent on the back 4 in closed season and the addition of Kurt, with the England wanna be goalie it speaks volumes.
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Post by bhp on Dec 31, 2017 12:47:24 GMT
As much as 5 0 stuffings are hard to take it may be justified if we win Monday. Anything other than three points however and that is surely that. No, no, no! Let's stop this nonsense right here. It is not acceptable, after a decade of being at this level, to basically forfeit a game before a ball was even kicked in order to target a more "winnable" game. Even if we win on Monday it in no way justifies throwing today's game. Why not? We didn't forfeit the games against City, Chelsea at home, Liverpool and Spurs and we still lost by an aggregate score of 19-3. If we wouldn't have made 6 changes the chances of us shipping more than 3 were high anyway. If we didn't have a game in 2 days time then he would have put a stronger team out for sure. Given the circumstances it was the right decision.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 31, 2017 12:47:38 GMT
It's clear they are waiting for Benitez end of season hence why they won't sack him now. It's the only thing that makes any sense.
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Post by malteser68 on Dec 31, 2017 14:55:23 GMT
I reiterate that in my opinion we are the worst team in the league as also evinced by our atrocious GD, the worst GD in the division a clear indicator that we are heading full steam ahead for relegation Ah the goalposts have widened even further now. Fair enough..... Well our goalposts seem to have widened quite a lot seeing that from the five big European leagues we have conceded the most after lowly Benevento
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 31, 2017 15:11:10 GMT
Ah the goalposts have widened even further now. Fair enough..... Well our goalposts seem to have widened quite a lot seeing that from the five big European leagues we have conceded the most after lowly Benevento Conceding a lot of goals against the top 4 teams in the division doesn't make us the worst team in the league. Why can't you grasp this very simple fact?
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 31, 2017 15:15:43 GMT
It doesnt, you are right there, but the list of teams we have beaten away from home since 2016 isn't good reading. Add to that most of our victories if not all this season have been wholly unconvincing then I agree we aren't in a good place.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Dec 31, 2017 15:16:03 GMT
It's clear they are waiting for Benitez end of season hence why they won't sack him now. It's the only thing that makes any sense. Benitez? More likely Rogers
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 31, 2017 15:17:43 GMT
Well our goalposts seem to have widened quite a lot seeing that from the five big European leagues we have conceded the most after lowly Benevento Conceding a lot of goals against the top 4 teams in the division doesn't make us the worst team in the league. Why can't you grasp this very simple fact? Not yet it doesn't
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Post by Royal Donut on Dec 31, 2017 15:38:32 GMT
With the whole defence out today we had no chance, Hughes put his eggs in one basket for monday. Did anyone think we could get a point with all four first choice defenders out?? Wasn't worth risking Allen one booking away from missing Monday also. On the one hand, yes it was a pragmatic decision but also, potentially, a no win one. What about another layer of shattered confidence experienced by the players - That’s why I can’t forsee us beating Newcastle after this. Time will tell, fingers crossed for a win. I don't mind Hughes and enjoyed a good few years at first. We need to stay up and change at the end of the season for me.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 31, 2017 16:59:18 GMT
It's clear they are waiting for Benitez end of season hence why they won't sack him now. It's the only thing that makes any sense. Benitez? More likely Rogers More chance of a threesome with you anc the Middleton sisters , neither would even consider this club they’d wages , their budget requirements and their ambition , sit as polar opposites with sustainability , sell to buy , apathy and incompetence all signature points for stoke city in the last two years . people will look back on the Liverpool game Nzonzi’s as the high point and atrocious decisions since that have led to terminal decline , but the Arnie one will be the greenhoff moment of this century settled amidst a summer which was the equivalent of the butler street roof our decline of our own making is inexceroble
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 17:34:23 GMT
Spelling benji. Not good enough!
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Post by peterthornesboots on Dec 31, 2017 18:53:29 GMT
No, no, no! Let's stop this nonsense right here. It is not acceptable, after a decade of being at this level, to basically forfeit a game before a ball was even kicked in order to target a more "winnable" game. Even if we win on Monday it in no way justifies throwing today's game. Why not? We didn't forfeit the games against City, Chelsea at home, Liverpool and Spurs and we still lost by an aggregate score of 19-3. If we wouldn't have made 6 changes the chances of us shipping more than 3 were high anyway. If we didn't have a game in 2 days time then he would have put a stronger team out for sure. Given the circumstances it was the right decision. I completely disagree. If thats the case then why were Southampton able to churn out a point at Old Trafford despite facing their own six-pointer against Palace two days later? At this level you can't just pick and choose what games you fancy playing. You have to battle and scrap for every point available. The club owes that to the supporters who paid vast amounts of money to be at Stamford Bridge - don't you think?
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Post by bhp on Jan 1, 2018 13:21:07 GMT
Why not? We didn't forfeit the games against City, Chelsea at home, Liverpool and Spurs and we still lost by an aggregate score of 19-3. If we wouldn't have made 6 changes the chances of us shipping more than 3 were high anyway. If we didn't have a game in 2 days time then he would have put a stronger team out for sure. Given the circumstances it was the right decision. I completely disagree. If thats the case then why were Southampton able to churn out a point at Old Trafford despite facing their own six-pointer against Palace two days later? At this level you can't just pick and choose what games you fancy playing. You have to battle and scrap for every point available. The club owes that to the supporters who paid vast amounts of money to be at Stamford Bridge - don't you think? I see where you're coming from and agree to an extent but Southampton haven't got the injury issues we have in the defensive areas and have not got 1 day rest between that game and the game against Palace. With full defensive options and if we had an extra day to recover then the team against Chelsea would have been completely different. But saying we had defensive options out and it was only 2 days until the next fixture then it was the sensible option. Obviously for those who made the trip it would have been a kick in the balls to make the journey to the Bridge and for us to surrender the game, with a full strength side we could have lost by the same result and then the key players would not be 100% for the game against Newcastle today. Swings and roundabouts. The 'gamble' will pay off as I'm confident of 3 points today.
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Post by nott1 on Jan 1, 2018 13:48:06 GMT
Im resigned to him being here until the summer now. Should have gone a few games ago for sure. I think Coates has tapped up Brendan Rodgers to come here in the summer, but we need to be in the Premier League for that to happen. Playing with fire leaving Hughes in charge What bloody good would he do?
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