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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 10:01:56 GMT
Points override goal difference just so you know.... Thanks for pointing that out mate You’re welcome, you seemed to be struggling understanding that the worst team is actually the one with the least points that was all.....
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Post by xchpotter on Dec 31, 2017 10:05:23 GMT
Newcastle forum seems fairly balanced with predictions.....about equal numbers predicting wins, loss and draws.......do they not know just how shit we are?
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 31, 2017 10:12:28 GMT
Newcastle forum seems fairly balanced with predictions.....about equal numbers predicting wins, loss and draws.......do they not know just how shit we are? Mate of mine who's a barcode is adamant that they are the shittest team ever to grace a football pitch. Even shitter than previously shit relegated Geordie teams. He reckons if it wasn't for Rafa being able to 'organise' them, they'd be relegated by now. He is a bit of a manic depressive though. Sounds like we're in for a proper thriller tomorrow.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 31, 2017 10:18:45 GMT
Thanks for pointing that out mate You’re welcome, you seemed to be struggling understanding that the worst team is actually the one with the least points that was all..... Actually the worst team is the one with the least points at the END of the season. I think it's pretty clear that he was suggesting that our goal difference is a very good indicator that we are that team. Not saying I agree with him but it wasn't too hard to understand what he meant.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 31, 2017 10:20:31 GMT
Newcastle forum seems fairly balanced with predictions.....about equal numbers predicting wins, loss and draws.......do they not know just how shit we are? Mate of mine who's a barcode is adamant that they are the shittest team ever to grace a football pitch. Even shitter than previously shit relegated Geordie teams. He reckons if it wasn't for Rafa being able to 'organise' them, they'd be relegated by now. He is a bit of a manic depressive though. Sounds like we're in for a proper thriller tomorrow. They looked a decent side when they won at West Ham just before Christmas
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 10:21:43 GMT
You’re welcome, you seemed to be struggling understanding that the worst team is actually the one with the least points that was all..... Actually the worst team is the one with the least points at the END of the season. I think it's pretty clear that he was suggesting that our goal difference is a very good indicator that we are that team. Not saying I agree with him but it wasn't too hard to understand what he meant. We’re not bottom of the form table either so no still struggling.....
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 31, 2017 10:23:31 GMT
Actually the worst team is the one with the least points at the END of the season. I think it's pretty clear that he was suggesting that our goal difference is a very good indicator that we are that team. Not saying I agree with him but it wasn't too hard to understand what he meant. We’re not bottom of the form table either so no still struggling..... You have seriously just posted that😄
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Dec 31, 2017 10:24:39 GMT
Mate of mine who's a barcode is adamant that they are the shittest team ever to grace a football pitch. Even shitter than previously shit relegated Geordie teams. He reckons if it wasn't for Rafa being able to 'organise' them, they'd be relegated by now. He is a bit of a manic depressive though. Sounds like we're in for a proper thriller tomorrow. They looked a decent side when they won at West Ham just before Christmas Newcastle did to west ham what west ham did to us, using pace on the counter attack and getting men forward quick. Something we are not capable of doing. We will need good fortune to win this match, and Newcastle to have a bad day
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 10:24:48 GMT
We’re not bottom of the form table either so no still struggling..... You have seriously just posted that😄 That goal difference isn’t an indicator that your are THE worst team in he league? Yes I have......
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Post by medwaypotter on Dec 31, 2017 10:26:35 GMT
How many more last chances does he get its getting very silly now. Coates has dithered for far to long over Hughes. Arnie was spot on with his lack of ambition statement. He never said that though did he, but don't let facts get in the way of a rant.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 31, 2017 10:27:18 GMT
You have seriously just posted that😄 That goal difference isn’t an indicator that your are THE worst team in he league? Yes I have...... Come on mate even the most positive bloke like yoursen can see we are absolute garbage and heading for the championship 🤔
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 31, 2017 10:28:12 GMT
They looked a decent side when they won at West Ham just before Christmas Newcastle did to west ham what west ham did to us, using pace on the counter attack and getting men forward quick. Something we are not capable of doing. We will need good fortune to win this match, and Newcastle to have a bad day Lets hope the manager has done his homework on them then
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 31, 2017 10:28:40 GMT
Actually the worst team is the one with the least points at the END of the season. I think it's pretty clear that he was suggesting that our goal difference is a very good indicator that we are that team. Not saying I agree with him but it wasn't too hard to understand what he meant. We’re not bottom of the form table either so no still struggling..... If you can't understand the point he was making then that's entirely up to you. I've already said that I don't necessarily agree with him.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 10:30:04 GMT
We’re not bottom of the form table either so no still struggling..... If you can't understand the point he was making then that's entirely up to you. I've already said that I don't necessarily agree with him. You’re not really bringing anything to the party then mate but as always appreciate your input (and I mean that)
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 31, 2017 10:35:54 GMT
If you can't understand the point he was making then that's entirely up to you. I've already said that I don't necessarily agree with him. You’re not really bringing anything to the party then mate but as always appreciate your input (and I mean that) I just thought your 'points override goal difference' retort was particularly flippant and at this stage of the season doesn't entirely show the full picture either. We don't know yet who the worst team in the league is.
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Post by Davef on Dec 31, 2017 10:35:57 GMT
History suggests that the team with the worst goal difference at the end of the season invariably gets relegated, so we'd better pull our fingers out.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Dec 31, 2017 10:37:15 GMT
Newcastle did to west ham what west ham did to us, using pace on the counter attack and getting men forward quick. Something we are not capable of doing. We will need good fortune to win this match, and Newcastle to have a bad day Lets hope the manager has done his homework on them then What homework is there to do. When you don't have any pace in your hopelessly imbalanced team, and every other team in the league has pace, you have to surrender possession more, and sit deep because you don't want to get annihilated on the counter attack like we have been countless times. There is no choice but to sit in and hope shaq or choupo or allen sneak us a goal with a bit of quality. In terms of the manager,I could be the fucking manager for all the planning that goes into it, sitting there with his roast dinner and pint of cider after every game, that must be when he comes up with his genius plans and does his homework, for instance playing 3 at the back with no wing backs and three big slow defenders.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 31, 2017 10:39:12 GMT
Lets hope the manager has done his homework on them then What homework is there to do. When you don't have any pace in your hopelessly imbalanced team, and every other team in the league has pace, you have to surrender possession more, and sit deep because you don't want to get annihilated on the counter attack like we have been countless times. There is no choice but to sit in and hope shaq or choupo or allen sneak us a goal with a bit of quality. In terms of the manager,I could be the fucking manager for all the planning that goes into it, sitting there with his roast dinner and pint of cider after every game, that must be when he comes up with his genius plans and does his homework, for instance playing 3 at the back with no wing backs and three big slow defenders. Fair point mate and let’s hope we add to our other 5 wins with hardly any possession tomorrow then👍
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 10:41:05 GMT
You’re not really bringing anything to the party then mate but as always appreciate your input (and I mean that) I just thought your 'points override goal difference' retort was particularly flippant and at this stage of the season doesn't entirely show the full picture either. We don't know yet who the worst team in the league is. Say we beat Newcastle 2-1, lose at Old Trafford 0-6 and beat Huddersfield 1-0 over 6 games we would have 10 points and a goal difference of -7. That wouldn’t make us anywhere near the worst team in the league despite having the worst goal difference would it? We don’t know who the worst team is of course we don’t but a team not bottom of the league or bottom of any form tables I would hazard a guess isn’t the worst team despite their horrendous goal difference...
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Post by nutterpotter on Dec 31, 2017 10:41:23 GMT
You have seriously just posted that😄 That goal difference isn’t an indicator that your are THE worst team in he league? Yes I have...... It indicates that we could well be the worst team by the end of the season. We're conceding more than 2 goals a game at the moment. At this rate, we'll have conceded 80+ goals by the end of the season. If that does happen, there's a good chance we will be the worst team in the league.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 10:47:32 GMT
That goal difference isn’t an indicator that your are THE worst team in he league? Yes I have...... It indicates that we could well be the worst team by the end of the season. We're conceding more than 2 goals a game at the moment. At this rate, we'll have conceded 80+ goals by the end of the season. If that does happen, there's a good chance we will be the worst team in the league. And we could lose by 5 goals on 4 more occasions but still pick enough points up to get to 40 which would still mean we’re not the worst team in the league.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 31, 2017 10:47:47 GMT
I just thought your 'points override goal difference' retort was particularly flippant and at this stage of the season doesn't entirely show the full picture either. We don't know yet who the worst team in the league is. Say we beat Newcastle 2-1, lose at Old Trafford 0-6 and beat Huddersfield 1-0 over 6 games we would have 10 points and a goal difference of -7. That wouldn’t make us anywhere near the worst team in the league despite having the worst goal difference would it? We don’t know who the worst team is of course we don’t but a team not bottom of the league or bottom of any form tables I would hazard a guess isn’t the worst team despite their horrendous goal difference... I think Dave's post above makes a good point, that being, that history shows that the the team with worst goal difference at the end of the season invariably gets relegated. I think that is essentially the point that malteser was making originally and I thought it was pretty clear too.
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Post by nutterpotter on Dec 31, 2017 10:50:20 GMT
It indicates that we could well be the worst team by the end of the season. We're conceding more than 2 goals a game at the moment. At this rate, we'll have conceded 80+ goals by the end of the season. If that does happen, there's a good chance we will be the worst team in the league. And we could lose by 5 goals on 4 more occasions but still pick enough points up to get to 40 which would still mean we’re not the worst team in the league. Of course, having the worst goal difference in the league doesn't guarantee that a team will come bottom. But in general, goal difference is a very good indicator of where a team finishes in the table.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Dec 31, 2017 10:53:46 GMT
It indicates that we could well be the worst team by the end of the season. We're conceding more than 2 goals a game at the moment. At this rate, we'll have conceded 80+ goals by the end of the season. If that does happen, there's a good chance we will be the worst team in the league. And we could lose by 5 goals on 4 more occasions but still pick enough points up to get to 40 which would still mean we’re not the worst team in the league. The reason we have such a bad goal difference Prestwich is because we concede too many goals. We need to win both the newcastle and huddersfield games because have been losing too many games previously...because we concede too many goals. We need to improve on that in order to win those games, I.e not concede as many goals per game as we have been on average. If we don't improve on that.I.e we concede two goals per game which is our average, we won't win those games. If we don't win those games, then you will see us firmly in the bottom three and everyone's favourite for relegation. If we have won both, then it will be because we have improved and conceded less goals than previously. At the moment, our defensive record tells me we won't win those games.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 10:54:01 GMT
Say we beat Newcastle 2-1, lose at Old Trafford 0-6 and beat Huddersfield 1-0 over 6 games we would have 10 points and a goal difference of -7. That wouldn’t make us anywhere near the worst team in the league despite having the worst goal difference would it? We don’t know who the worst team is of course we don’t but a team not bottom of the league or bottom of any form tables I would hazard a guess isn’t the worst team despite their horrendous goal difference... I think Dave's post above makes a good point, that being, that history shows that the the team with worst goal difference at the end of the season invariably gets relegated. I think that is essentially the point that malteser was making originally and I thought it was pretty clear too. Getting relegated doesn’t make you THE worst team in the league though being bottom does. That was the original point as you well know.....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 10:56:17 GMT
Lets hope the manager has done his homework on them then What homework is there to do. When you don't have any pace in your hopelessly imbalanced team, and every other team in the league has pace, you have to surrender possession more, and sit deep because you don't want to get annihilated on the counter attack like we have been countless times. There is no choice but to sit in and hope shaq or choupo or allen sneak us a goal with a bit of quality. In terms of the manager,I could be the fucking manager for all the planning that goes into it, sitting there with his roast dinner and pint of cider after every game, that must be when he comes up with his genius plans and does his homework, for instance playing 3 at the back with no wing backs and three big slow defenders. We have become the kings of surrendering possession. And I have a theory (stay with me on this)..... If we don't have the ball, it decreases our chances of scoring a goal. If we give the opposition more of the ball, it increases the chance that they might score. It seems to me, that our 'tactic' maybe working against us (?) I have my tin hat at the ready.... 😉
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 31, 2017 10:56:26 GMT
I think Dave's post above makes a good point, that being, that history shows that the the team with worst goal difference at the end of the season invariably gets relegated. I think that is essentially the point that malteser was making originally and I thought it was pretty clear too. Getting relegated doesn’t make you THE worst team in the league though being bottom does. That was the original point as you well know..... Seriously, you're going with that now? 😁 Ok then ...
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Post by Onneravineet on Dec 31, 2017 10:57:43 GMT
It’s all fine margins and Monday is another with huge potential 93rd minute v West Brom and a goalmouth scramble after an appalling second half display says that if they’d scored that ground would of exploded with venom...they miss and 20 seconds later we go up and break away for a 3rd goal and everybody goes up home happy...it’s all on a knife edge Spot on. This is the issue, it shouldn’t be on a knife edge though in my opinion, if there is a decision to be made on a new manager. There needs to be a definitive plan, which actually there probably is, clear in the Board’s mind. As much as the venom will surface if Castle beat us Coates is in this until the end of the season and the fans have to back it. Hughes will be gone at the end of the season.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 10:59:27 GMT
Getting relegated doesn’t make you THE worst team in the league though being bottom does. That was the original point as you well know..... Seriously, you're going with that now? 😁 Ok then ... I’m going with nothing. That was the original point. You’re the king of semantics you should understand surely?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 31, 2017 10:59:32 GMT
We’re not bottom of the form table either so no still struggling..... You have seriously just posted that😄 Of course he has because it's true. By whatever measure you choose in terms of form table, league position etc,We areclearly not the worst team in the league. Whether we will be at the end of the season is open to debate but we aren't currently the worst team in the league, however much you might want us to be. We aren't even the 3rd worst team in the league by form tables are We?
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