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Post by samba :) on Dec 11, 2017 14:47:14 GMT
In say 15 years.
I think people would remember the good more than the bad. Like having bojan in rattling form and beating the dippers 6-1
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Post by metalhead on Dec 11, 2017 14:49:32 GMT
Slightly ruined for me now. 12 months ago, I would have put him up there with one of our best managers, but he is slowly destroying his legacy, much like Tony Pulis did.
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Post by potter25 on Dec 11, 2017 14:51:30 GMT
Started well tailed off badly
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Dec 11, 2017 14:53:29 GMT
Useless arrogant tactically inept twat! Gouranga.  |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Dec 11, 2017 14:58:45 GMT
The Richie Barker of the 2010s, had a fantastic squad and played some phenomenal stuff before deciding to abandon it to play the percentages game.
Another case of one that got away.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 15:00:56 GMT
I honestly think if we had continued to play 4-2-3-1 we would be a solid top half team.
How can you not have some great memories of his tenure though, definitely witnessed the best football I have seen Stoke play in my lifetime.
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Post by 1982stokie on Dec 11, 2017 15:07:10 GMT
a case of where did it all go wrong
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 15:07:20 GMT
Exactly as he came in
'A joyless, arrogant, cock'
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 11, 2017 15:07:57 GMT
Mick Mills was just before my time but would there be parallels there?
Steadied the ship, got us playing some good stuff, gave us a bit of hope again, but lost the plot and useless with money?
A decent, respectable manager overall but not one of the greats.
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Post by wuzza on Dec 11, 2017 15:11:54 GMT
Mick Mills was just before my time but would there be parallels there? Steadied the ship, got us playing some good stuff, gave us a bit of hope again, but lost the plot and useless with money? A decent, respectable manager overall but not one of the greats. The ship Mick Mills steadied had considerably more holes in it than the one MH inherited. I would agree with your description of Hughes completely. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 15:15:05 GMT
A reckless appointment
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 11, 2017 15:15:12 GMT
Mick Mills was just before my time but would there be parallels there? Steadied the ship, got us playing some good stuff, gave us a bit of hope again, but lost the plot and useless with money? A decent, respectable manager overall but not one of the greats. The ship Mick Mills steadied had considerably more holes in it than the one MH inherited. I would agree with your description of Hughes completely. It did and it's perhaps an unfair comparison. I still think people assume it was a given that whoever came in when Hughes did could have kept things on an even keel without too much trouble. He inherited a squad of well-drilled professionals no doubt, but it was an unhappy group that had got out of the habit of winning and scoring. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 11, 2017 15:15:51 GMT
He's delivered the three best league finishes in the club's recent history, is that really 'reckless'? |
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Post by werrington on Dec 11, 2017 15:20:11 GMT
He's delivered the three best league finishes in the club's recent history, is that really 'reckless'? Seriously Rob why do you bother replying mate ?...If that’s what he genuinely thinks then there’s really no point engaging Argue the rights and wrongs of him now by all means but to say it was reckless defies all reasoning and logic Me ...I’ll remember the fantastic football we played, a SF of a major trophy and yeah 3 9th places but times time |
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Post by cooper67 on Dec 11, 2017 15:20:48 GMT
Did well with the team he inherited-but when it came to making his own team it all went pear shaped.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 15:21:56 GMT
I'd remember him as someone who for two seasons allowed us to dream that we could finally push on to the next level for the first time since the 70's, playing football against the likes of Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal and Liverpool that had us all buzzing with excitement.
If that warrants some of the language thrown at Hughes over the last 6 months then I must be missing something.......
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 15:24:12 GMT
Did well with the team he inherited-but when it came to making his own team it all went pear shaped. "Did well" or surpassed anything that the previous manager achieved in the league 3 seasons on the bounce? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 15:24:22 GMT
He'll be remembered to me as a bloke that rekindled my love for football after taking over from the most negative brand of deathball I've seen at Stoke, and one that gave us some good, solid football performances against some damn good sides.
Sadly, he'll be remembered as a bloke that lost his way but one that, frankly, should have been asked to leave before it got to this stage, by people that should know better.
He's struggling right now and for as much criticism he deserves, he doesn't deserve the morbid curiosity gawping he's getting from all angles at present.
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Post by reddipotter on Dec 11, 2017 15:24:28 GMT
A man with no plan.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 11, 2017 15:26:29 GMT
I think that brief (and it was brief) period that Arnie, Shaq and Bojan were unplayable and the Liverpool win will live long in the memory. Just because its gone sour doesn't mean it was a bad appointment though, it was a very decent appointment which delivered exactly what was needed after 6 years of Tone.
I think with every passing day he survives from here on in though, his time as a whole will be remembered less kindly than it should be.
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Post by Davef on Dec 11, 2017 15:30:09 GMT
I think that brief (and it was brief) period that Arnie, Shaq and Bojan were unplayable and the Liverpool win will live long in the memory. Just because its gone sour doesn't mean it was a bad appointment though, it was a very decent appointment which delivered exactly what was needed after 6 years of Tone. I think with every passing day he survives from here on in though, his time as a whole will be remembered less kindly than it should be. Agree with that. There were people queuing up predicting relegation from the day Pulis was sacked, but we've not really looked like a relegation threatened team under Hughes until these past few weeks. |
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Post by sutekh on Dec 11, 2017 15:32:29 GMT
3 9th place finishes and some of the best football that I’ve seen stoke produce in 52yrs of being a supporter.
That’s how I will remember him.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 15:33:58 GMT
I think that brief (and it was brief) period that Arnie, Shaq and Bojan were unplayable and the Liverpool win will live long in the memory. Just because its gone sour doesn't mean it was a bad appointment though, it was a very decent appointment which delivered exactly what was needed after 6 years of Tone. I think with every passing day he survives from here on in though, his time as a whole will be remembered less kindly than it should be. The absolute stellar performances were over a relatively short period of time, but from the moment we beat Man Utd with Charlie's wonder strike through to January 2016 we were picking up 1.5 points per game. Was a cracking 2 years it has to be said, shame it's come to this..... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 15:36:50 GMT
Brilliant start that gave us our best footballing performances in recent years and put us within a couple of players of challenging for europe.
Tailed off after a few poor performances because we reverted to basics too readily and refused to try to play football again.
Overall he's done a great job for the club and I would be thankful for his work if he left now.
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Post by geoff321 on Dec 11, 2017 15:38:24 GMT
He should be remembered as one of the best managers employed by the club in its history. Hopefully future generations will judge his record on its merit without this continual and boring comparison to what Tony Pulis achieved.
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Post by juiceandbits on Dec 11, 2017 15:40:31 GMT
He's delivered the three best league finishes in the club's recent history, is that really 'reckless'? Seriously Rob why do you bother replying mate ?...If that’s what he genuinely thinks then there’s really no point engaging Argue the rights and wrongs of him now by all means but to say it was reckless defies all reasoning and logic Me ...I’ll remember the fantastic football we played, a SF of a major trophy and yeah 3 9th places but times time The semi-final is something I feel a lot of people forget. |
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Post by malisastokie on Dec 11, 2017 15:41:18 GMT
For me the win over Man City , never seen us get anywhere that since.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 11, 2017 15:45:19 GMT
Hopefully well.
But these last 2 years will be hard to shake for him.
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Post by wuzza on Dec 11, 2017 15:48:31 GMT
The ship Mick Mills steadied had considerably more holes in it than the one MH inherited. I would agree with your description of Hughes completely. It did and it's perhaps an unfair comparison. I still think people assume it was a given that whoever came in when Hughes did could have kept things on an even keel without too much trouble. He inherited a squad of well-drilled professionals no doubt, but it was an unhappy group that had got out of the habit of winning and scoring. Mills was much underrated - he did a remarkable job initially. The fag end of his career however was the first to come under the spotlight of the ‘Oatcake Era’ and as such people tend only to remember that! Hughes did a good job building on some excellent foundations and as such deserves respect. He also is quite a dignified character which counts for a lot to me. |
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Post by lordb on Dec 11, 2017 15:52:15 GMT
Very much like Mills
Did a great job for two or three seasons with little ££££ produced a spell of fantastic football before descending into soporific weak easy to thrash teams with the same errors on repeat despite spending more money.
Shame.
We have had far far worse managers that's for sure.
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