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Post by jarvinski on Dec 11, 2017 17:09:31 GMT
I would suggest, clearly lost the plot
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Post by jarvinski on Dec 11, 2017 17:12:32 GMT
Mcgrory!!!!! Do you mean the man who sold Matthews with matches left and Stoke top of the league.....unbelievable
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Post by jarvinski on Dec 11, 2017 17:12:58 GMT
5 matches left
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Post by stokiejon03 on Dec 11, 2017 17:22:58 GMT
I would remember him as the manager who in my 25 Year’s of watching stoke produced the best football I have seen but also some of the worst surrenders like Saturday. I think if Hughes did stay we would stay up a bit like last year but it is time for him to go due to how the atmosphere of what the ground is going to be like of him being here affecting the players in some of the matches against the teams around us. A new manager with fresh ideas the crowd behind the team and the squad has comfortably got enough to stay up.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Dec 11, 2017 17:40:19 GMT
If he went tomorrow, then i think how he would be remembered, would be very much influenced by whether we ultimately stay up. If we're relegated, then first and foremost, I think he will be remembered as the manager who should have been sacked at the end of the 16/17 season. When kids in the future ask their parents where did it all go wrong leading up to the 2018 relegation, this is what people will refer to. If we stay up however, I think he'll be remembered first and foremost, for his three top 9 finishes. Totally agree. 9th place being our best finish in the PL, and to have achieved 3 three in a row, we'd look back on him as one of the best. If we go down in the same season he was in charge, with the squad he largely built, he'll be viewed as one of the worst.
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Post by skip on Dec 11, 2017 17:42:31 GMT
I would remember him as the manager who in my 25 Year’s of watching stoke produced the best football I have seen but also some of the worst surrenders like Saturday. I think if Hughes did stay we would stay up a bit like last year but it is time for him to go due to how the atmosphere of what the ground is going to be like of him being here affecting the players in some of the matches against the teams around us. A new manager with fresh ideas the crowd behind the team and the squad has comfortably got enough to stay up. That's pretty much it. A 6-1 tonking of Liverpool, a lick of paint from a cup final, some scintillating football with Arnie, Bojan and Co., but some of the most abject surrenders and surreal formations ever to beset my eyes. A man who tried but then ran out of ideas.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 17:55:13 GMT
« Stoke City FC If hughes left tomorrow how will he be remembered?
Fleetingly 😀
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Post by stillgame4it on Dec 11, 2017 18:01:44 GMT
Mark who.....?
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Post by chrisparker on Dec 11, 2017 18:03:36 GMT
In the end when the dust has settled, he'll be remembered as one of the great managers of Stoke city. At a time when the fans were divided and the club was in financial disarray, he stepped in and guided us to 3 consecutive 9th place finishes whilst playing some of the best football that I've ever witnessed in my life as a Stoke City supporter. There was a period of about 2 months in his 3rd season when we beat City and United at home and won away to Everton and Liverpool where I'd never felt as excited about a Stoke City team as I did then.
And I distinctly remember walking away from Anfield thinking to myself that although we lost, under this manager and with these players, this club is going places. But unfortunately since then, things just haven't worked out for him and on the whole we've been on a downward trajectory. And the manager certainly hasn't helped his cause by making one poor decision after another. But it was because of that promise that I stood behind him all this time until this moment. Now I want him to step down because with every passing moment he's ruining his own legacy and I don't want that. The club needs some fresh ideas and Hughes probably himself feels he could do with a new challenge.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 18:32:13 GMT
2 great years, one ropey season where people were willing him to turn it around and then just utter despair since then.
Famed for his torridly shit starts to a season that meant the likelihood of us ever pushing on was done and dusted by October.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 19:23:18 GMT
I spose its encouraging that we are now talking of him in a past tense
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 11, 2017 19:31:50 GMT
Again, a clueless twat who led the club to its three best league finishes in 40 years? Yep, that's him. It's a results business, and it's our club's future at stake here not it's past. But when you’re talking about how someone will be remembered ‘the past’ does tend to come into it a bit...
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 11, 2017 19:34:36 GMT
I would remember him as the manager who in my 25 Year’s of watching stoke produced the best football I have seen but also some of the worst surrenders like Saturday. I think if Hughes did stay we would stay up a bit like last year but it is time for him to go due to how the atmosphere of what the ground is going to be like of him being here affecting the players in some of the matches against the teams around us. A new manager with fresh ideas the crowd behind the team and the squad has comfortably got enough to stay up. That's pretty much it. A 6-1 tonking of Liverpool, a lick of paint from a cup final, some scintillating football with Arnie, Bojan and Co., but some of the most abject surrenders and surreal formations ever to beset my eyes. A man who tried but then ran out of ideas. And waste £50 million on three useless wasters in the process.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 11, 2017 19:36:19 GMT
In the end when the dust has settled, he'll be remembered as one of the great managers of Stoke city. At a time when the fans were divided and the club was in financial disarray, he stepped in and guided us to 3 consecutive 9th place finishes whilst playing some of the best football that I've ever witnessed in my life as a Stoke City supporter. There was a period of about 2 months in his 3rd season when we beat City and United at home and won away to Everton and Liverpool where I'd never felt as excited about a Stoke City team as I did then. And I distinctly remember walking away from Anfield thinking to myself that although we lost, under this manager and with these players, this club is going places. But unfortunately since then, things just haven't worked out for him and on the whole we've been on a downward trajectory. And the manager certainly hasn't helped his cause by making one poor decision after another. But it was because of that promise that I stood behind him all this time until this moment. Now I want him to step down because with every passing moment he's ruining his own legacy and I don't want that. The club needs some fresh ideas and Hughes probably himself feels he could do with a new challenge. Neil Baker is looking for an assistant at Harrison Park.
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Post by BuckRogers on Dec 11, 2017 19:41:11 GMT
Breath of fresh air first couple of seasons, playing good football. Not sure what's happened these last 18 months,but he's completely lost the plot now. Shame,but it needs changing
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Post by hchpotter on Dec 11, 2017 20:20:43 GMT
I should think he will be remembered with great fondness .......... by the owners of Spurs, West Brom, Porto.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Dec 11, 2017 20:31:24 GMT
Bought a lot of good players. Didn't know how to use them.
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Post by march4 on Dec 11, 2017 20:34:11 GMT
Hughes will be remembered alongside Richie Barker.
Very similar effect on the club. Both took over from solid managers who built the team on defence. Both added some glitter and style and made a promising start. Both threw it all away due to inept tactical stubbornness.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 11, 2017 20:36:49 GMT
Still in credit for me....just about.
What he did in his first 3 seasons is still under-appreciated nationally I think.
Very sad that that the bucketloads of credit he'd accumulated is gradually being whittled away on a weekly basis, to the point where all that will be remembered is the staleness of the last 18 months and the acrimony of the last few weeks.
It'll be really unfortunate for everyone if it ends up getting nasty
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Post by salopstick on Dec 11, 2017 20:58:04 GMT
I think that brief (and it was brief) period that Arnie, Shaq and Bojan were unplayable and the Liverpool win will live long in the memory. Just because its gone sour doesn't mean it was a bad appointment though, it was a very decent appointment which delivered exactly what was needed after 6 years of Tone. I think with every passing day he survives from here on in though, his time as a whole will be remembered less kindly than it should be. Pulis divided the fans so much it would have been hard for anyone to close that gap. From the start a lot of rimmers didn’t give him the chance. Regardless of when the change happens the guy who takes over Hughes, will have the boards support so the fans should give 100% benefit of the doubt and support until proven otherwise
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Post by scfc75 on Dec 11, 2017 21:09:58 GMT
I think that brief (and it was brief) period that Arnie, Shaq and Bojan were unplayable and the Liverpool win will live long in the memory. Just because its gone sour doesn't mean it was a bad appointment though, it was a very decent appointment which delivered exactly what was needed after 6 years of Tone. I think with every passing day he survives from here on in though, his time as a whole will be remembered less kindly than it should be. The calendar year 2015 was fantastic. Our league record was: W16 D10 L12 (58pts) F47, A41 with 13 clean sheets. We beat Spurs 3-0, Liverpool 6-1, Chelsea 1-0, Man City 2-0, Man Utd 2-0 and Everton 4-3 away. After that win at Everton, we had a few more scrawny wins to the end of the season and just about managed 9th by beating West Ham on the final day (having won only 1 of our previous 9). It really is baffling why things unraveled so quickly but my memories of that period are fantastic. He deserves credit for how we played to that point, but like you say if he remains and drags us further down then those memories will be outweighed by bad feeling.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 11, 2017 21:49:46 GMT
I should think he will be remembered with great fondness .......... by the owners of Spurs, West Brom, Porto. Care to shed light on why your hero couldn’t match his league finishes? Didn’t think so.
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Post by samba :) on Dec 11, 2017 22:18:58 GMT
The majority of this thread delights me. I do hope people forget about the last 18 months but the longer this disaster goes on the more chance they wont.
Football is a funny old game. He'll have a great status in the future but still everyone wants rid of him
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Post by ChesterStokie on Dec 11, 2017 22:32:37 GMT
The majority of this thread delights me. I do hope people forget about the last 18 months but the longer this disaster goes on the more chance they wont. Football is a funny old game. He'll have a great status in the future but still everyone wants rid of him I don't want rid of him. I want us to win tomorrow and Saturday and for him to stay and for us finish 9th again.
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Post by fca47 on Dec 11, 2017 23:17:25 GMT
Played some decent football, until it all started to crumble around him, of his own making, loads of shocking decisions on recruitment and formations. I think we all want it to come good for the sake of the club, but it's looking increasingly unlikely.
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Post by duckling on Dec 12, 2017 0:43:06 GMT
1. Waddington - promotion to top flight, LC victory, European football - on merit, exciting football in the 70s, (but not in the 60s), 2. Pulis - promotion to top flight, FA Cup final, European football - albeit by default, backs against the wall survival football. Slight tangent. I don't understand how qualifying for Europe via the FA Cup final is any less of a meritorious way to qualify. To qualify via the FA Cup final, a team has to, you know, reach the final. Stoke reached the final by winning all of their rounds including the biggest semi final victory in over 80 years. I get that if Manchester City hadn't qualified for Champions League, then Manchester City and not Stoke would have taken that Europa League spot. The same can be true of 7th place qualifiers though. 7th place only qualifies for Europe if the cup winners have already qualified through other means. Stoke's Europa League spot was no less meritorious than Everton's spot this year, and I haven't heard anyone say that Everton got into Europe by default.
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 12, 2017 4:34:29 GMT
A good Stoke manager who went on too long
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Post by Fred Ferret on Dec 12, 2017 6:59:42 GMT
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Post by Rick Grimes on Dec 12, 2017 9:12:11 GMT
It's strange how he's gone from the being the guy who managed three consecutive 9th place finishes, playing some excellent football at times, to what we're seeing now which is a manager with muddled thinking, playing round pegs in square holes leading to the general decline we've seen over the last 18 months.
The decline for me started when we lost N'Zonzi and he inexplicably tried to replace him with a loaned Van Ginkel from Chelsea and trying to play the exact same way. I don't really know what goes on behind the scenes but I've got a feeling that some of the blame lays at the feet at the 'transfer team' which includes Scholes and Cartwright.
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 12, 2017 9:32:47 GMT
Foundations yes, but loads of deficiencies, not least the style of play. Remember we didn't have a decent FB when Pulis left. First thing Hughes did was buy FBs.
It was Hughes who got N'Zonzi to play more expensive football and our most improved player under Hughes in his first year was Whelan. The start of Hughes tenure was not a rip roaring success. There were loads of posters saying he was useless during the first few months while he was getting the players to play more creative, possession football. bleacherreport.com/articles/1834784-premier-league-table-2013-week-10-examining-clubs-that-wasted-big-opportunitiesThere was not accident about Hughes achieving 9th place. If it was so easy Pulis would have done it. It's not. it's very risky. That's why most of the middle placed teams play defensive football and try and steal a point. Unfortunately Hughes himself has reverted to this and lets the opposition play with the ball, coupled with the fact we don't have the type of forwards who can press. Seriously, I'm not being funny, it seems like we have played a back 3 for so long I can't remember who our full backs are!? Pieters is one of course, but wasn't he signed by 'late-stage-Pulis'? Bardlsey I suppose would be the other who was a Hughes signing. Anyone else, that's only one and that was in the twilight of his career and he's left now anyway...? Addendum: I just remembered Glenn Johnson, the less said there the better! Pieters was Hughes first signing. He would have been bought in the last Pulis window, buy injured his hand putting it through a window in temper. When Hughes arrived we had no LB, Wilson was being played there and Cameron RB. Hughes subsequently picked up Bardsley and Johnson on free transfers, and of course most recently Tymon from Hull.
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