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Post by Jack Jarvis Esquire on Dec 13, 2017 13:28:38 GMT
Cannot understand what Coates is waiting for? Going into Saturdays game with Hughes still in a job.Its suggesting that if we get a result hes staying,madness! If he does go it will be Megson or someone of similar ilk. Coates wants someone grateful for the opportunity who wont rock the boat about the clubs penny pinching.
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Post by chigstoke on Dec 13, 2017 13:33:42 GMT
Oh don't get me wrong, I think he will go for Martin O'Neil but for me, that makes Coates a major part of the problem.
yes it does short term appointment till May,someone who will keep us up then John Coates to step us chairman & appoint a progressive manager in the summer & by all means examine the recruitment team too right now we just need a short term fix That would be an ideal situation. But who comes in for a short term fix?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 13, 2017 14:36:09 GMT
No. Played for and managed Chelsea. Di Matteo. Where's he at these days? Looking for a job, I believe.
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Post by VolvicStokie on Dec 13, 2017 15:20:14 GMT
Martin O'Neill, let's face it, would be an utterly ridiculous appointment that would have fans of the other 19 clubs in hysterics and mentally inking us in for relegation That sounds familiar... oh yeah, when Hughes was appointed! He's a good manager who could get a tune out of this shambles
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Post by thegift on Dec 13, 2017 15:21:03 GMT
Martin O'Neill, let's face it, would be an utterly ridiculous appointment that would have fans of the other 19 clubs in hysterics and mentally inking us in for relegation That sounds familiar... oh yeah, when Hughes was appointed! He's a good manager who could get a tune out of this shambles I'd take O'neill.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 15:21:42 GMT
O'Neill? Seriously?
Man alive.
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Post by thegift on Dec 13, 2017 15:22:42 GMT
O'Neill? Seriously? Man alive. You think hes worse than hughes?
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Post by VolvicStokie on Dec 13, 2017 15:28:16 GMT
In all honesty, I wouldn't be over the moon with O'Neil, but I bet my bottom fucking dollar he'd get more of a tune out of our lot that Hughes is!
That said, my nan could probably get a better tune out of our squad than Hughes
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Post by dirtygary69 on Dec 13, 2017 15:32:19 GMT
That sounds familiar... oh yeah, when Hughes was appointed! He's a good manager who could get a tune out of this shambles I'd take O'neill. He's about 10 years past his best. Embarrassing appointment if it ever happened.
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Post by Old School Stokie on Dec 13, 2017 15:33:41 GMT
Hughes needs a reality check with his backroom staff as they should doing the hard miles with the team on daily basis to sort out the defense and midfield - and have a better handle on recruitment. He can't do it all by himself even though he appointed them. I mean what do they know about Premier League Players and systems - a much more difficult animal than they have ever been used to.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 13, 2017 15:36:55 GMT
Have to say I’m amazed he’s not been sacked today,the longer Coates leaves it the more chance of relegation for me.
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Post by sportsman on Dec 13, 2017 15:38:43 GMT
Have to say I’m amazed he’s not been sacked today,the longer Coates leaves it the more chance of relegation for me. Just posted on another thread: Maybe they are looking at options as we speak, but don't want to down the everton route of getting rid of a manager, then going a month without anyone coming in. As annoying the results are at the moment, Coates will look at it as, while we are casting our eye over who might be out there, the players in the meantime are still putting a shift in for him like last night. Or is that too sensible an abservtion? Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/274075/hughes-favourite-next-on-oddschecker#ixzz519jJZ1tm
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Post by geoff321 on Dec 13, 2017 15:43:40 GMT
The best way to avoid relegation is to stick with Hughes and review in the summer, changing manager now would be a risk to far in my opinion.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 13, 2017 15:44:46 GMT
Have to say I’m amazed he’s not been sacked today,the longer Coates leaves it the more chance of relegation for me. Just posted on another thread: Maybe they are looking at options as we speak, but don't want to down the everton route of getting rid of a manager, then going a month without anyone coming in. As annoying the results are at the moment, Coates will look at it as, while we are casting our eye over who might be out there, the players in the meantime are still putting a shift in for him like last night. Or is that too sensible an abservtion? Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/274075/hughes-favourite-next-on-oddschecker#ixzz519jJZ1tmMaybe so mate but matches are passing us by and whoever comes in(if it happens)has got to get things moving sharpish
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 13, 2017 15:45:48 GMT
The best way to avoid relegation is to stick with Hughes and review in the summer, changing manager now would be a risk to far in my opinion. Im sorry Geoff but 7 wins out of 33 tells a different story
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 13, 2017 15:50:34 GMT
Smudge sums it up nicely
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Post by maninasuitcase on Dec 13, 2017 15:50:56 GMT
The best way to avoid relegation is to stick with Hughes and review in the summer, changing manager now would be a risk to far in my opinion. The only stick he needs is one around the back of the head. Maybe it'll knock some sense into the useless fuck.
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Post by geoff321 on Dec 13, 2017 15:55:08 GMT
The best way to avoid relegation is to stick with Hughes and review in the summer, changing manager now would be a risk to far in my opinion. Im sorry Geoff but 7 wins out of 33 tells a different story The results have been poor it's true, but you are in fact saying that sacking Hughes without a first class manager having been identified is the best way to proceed, I have a real problem with that.
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Post by thegift on Dec 13, 2017 15:56:18 GMT
He's about 10 years past his best. Embarrassing appointment if it ever happened. So is johnson & ireland but we still gave them a new contract?
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Post by Britvicpotter on Dec 13, 2017 15:58:03 GMT
Im sorry Geoff but 7 wins out of 33 tells a different story The results have been poor it's true, but you are in fact saying that sacking Hughes without a first class manager having been identified is the best way to proceed, I have a real problem with that. 100% barre
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 13, 2017 15:59:36 GMT
Im sorry Geoff but 7 wins out of 33 tells a different story The results have been poor it's true, but you are in fact saying that sacking Hughes without a first class manager having been identified is the best way to proceed, I have a real problem with that. Fair point but for me that risk is worth taking because the fans and the players need something different
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 16:00:49 GMT
The best way to avoid relegation is to stick with Hughes and review in the summer, changing manager now would be a risk to far in my opinion. Im sorry Geoff but 7 wins out of 33 tells a different story You could go 2 games further back and add the wins against Watford and Sunderland to make it 9 wins in 35......
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 13, 2017 16:09:12 GMT
Im sorry Geoff but 7 wins out of 33 tells a different story You could go 2 games further back and add the wins against Watford and Sunderland to make it 9 wins in 35...... Or we could go even further also so I wouldn’t bother🙄 Even the most positive fan like yourself must now know he’s got to go surely?
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Post by alster on Dec 13, 2017 16:12:52 GMT
The results have been poor it's true, but you are in fact saying that sacking Hughes without a first class manager having been identified is the best way to proceed, I have a real problem with that. Fair point but for me that risk is worth taking because the fans and the players need something different No that would be pure stupidity. He has to have someone lined up before he acts.
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Post by Britvicpotter on Dec 13, 2017 16:13:27 GMT
I’m all for change if it’s for the better but I still haven’t heard a realistic option out there ....? O’neil Pulis or Giggs not for me thanks. What I do know is with this manager or not we have got to spend big in January and the club manager and players need everybody’s support . I don’t see how booing the players and some of the abuse I’m hearing and reading is going to help. We are in this together and we can get out of it together 2 wins and it’s a different outlook all together.
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Post by somersetstokie on Dec 13, 2017 16:14:32 GMT
Whether we like it or not, the realistic and probable scenario is that TP, who is of course available, will return, perhaps on a 6 month contract. With the current malaise at the club something has got to change and Hughes will go, probably before the Christmas games. SCFC is a multi million pound business and the owners need to protect the value of their asset, in terms of ticket sales, TV revenue etc. TP will come in as the man who already is familiar with the club and the facilities, and will have a brief to restore stability to the club and settle things down. The understanding would probably be that this is a (lucrative) short term deal, allowing the club to make long term changes in the Summer.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 13, 2017 16:19:31 GMT
I’m all for change if it’s for the better but I still haven’t heard a realistic option out there ....? O’neil Pulis or Giggs not for me thanks. What I do know is with this manager or not we have got to spend big in January and the club manager and players need everybody’s support . I don’t see how booing the players and some of the abuse I’m hearing and reading is going to help. We are in this together and we can get out of it together 2 wins and it’s a different outlook all together. So you stick with a manager who let’s be honest has lost the plot rather than change?You’ll be coming out with “be careful what you wish for next”🙄
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Post by geoff321 on Dec 13, 2017 16:19:40 GMT
Whether we like it or not, the realistic and probable scenario is that TP, who is of course available, will return, perhaps on a 6 month contract. With the current malaise at the club something has got to change and Hughes will go, probably before the Christmas games. SCFC is a multi million pound business and the owners need to protect the value of their asset, in terms of ticket sales, TV revenue etc. TP will come in as the man who already is familiar with the club and the facilities, and will have a brief to restore stability to the club and settle things down. The understanding would probably be that this is a (lucrative) short term deal, allowing the club to make long term changes in the Summer. You may be right, but what evidence do you have that Pulis would keep Stoke in the PL whereas MH wouldn't?
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Post by skip on Dec 13, 2017 16:21:06 GMT
Direct quote from my NINE year old nipper first thing this morning. "What is the point of keeping Mark Hughes as manager when he can't play a formation that helps us win?" Yes, he's another FIFA video game player but he's smart enough to know that when you don't play players in the best positions and play the team in a formation that doesn't work, that you keep losing.
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Post by Britvicpotter on Dec 13, 2017 16:22:02 GMT
I’m all for change if it’s for the better but I still haven’t heard a realistic option out there ....? O’neil Pulis or Giggs not for me thanks. What I do know is with this manager or not we have got to spend big in January and the club manager and players need everybody’s support . I don’t see how booing the players and some of the abuse I’m hearing and reading is going to help. We are in this together and we can get out of it together 2 wins and it’s a different outlook all together. So you stick with a manager who let’s be honest has lost the plot rather than change?You’ll be coming out with “be careful what you wish for next”🙄 No like I said I’m up for changing the manager and bringing in better players. But I haven’t heard one realistic name that I would want here.
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