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Post by bingbang on Dec 9, 2017 18:20:32 GMT
Perhaps it's time Peter stepped down and let his son take over. Perhaps his ideas have become very blinkered let someone with fresh ideas take on the challenge.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2017 18:24:56 GMT
Perhaps it's time Peter stepped down and let his son take over. Perhaps his ideas have become very blinkered let someone with fresh ideas take on the challenge. I feel sure that when the owner decides that the chairman cannot fulfil his duties, he will be replaced. I also think that the chairman does not act as a "maverick". He will be complying with the owner's wishes. |
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Post by mrred on Dec 9, 2017 18:29:01 GMT
I disagree. But this week will be very telling of the owners, whatever happens. Whether they have the bollocks to get rid of bad rubbish and the calibre of the next man in charge. The sleepwalking through the last 2 years don't fill me with much confidence.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 9, 2017 18:29:07 GMT
Massive changes are needed top to bottom of the club.
New chairman.
New CEO
Don't bother with a new Cartwright
New manager
Excellent
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Post by alster on Dec 9, 2017 18:32:15 GMT
Perhaps it's time Peter stepped down and let his son take over. Perhaps his ideas have become very blinkered let someone with fresh ideas take on the challenge. I feel sure that when the owner decides that the chairman cannot fulfil his duties, he will be replaced. I also think that the chairman does not act as a "maverick". He will be complying with the owner's wishes. What utter crap the owner is his daughter and Stoke City is his plaything. You can see quite clearly that the strategy of the two businesses are polar opposites one is an aggressive market leader the other is what you get from Peter Coates. |
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Post by chrisparker on Dec 9, 2017 18:35:00 GMT
Massive changes are needed top to bottom of the club. New chairman. New CEO Don't bother with a new Cartwright New manager Excellent You forgot to add new players. |
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Post by lostinafrenchbar on Dec 9, 2017 18:37:20 GMT
Massive changes are needed top to bottom of the club. New chairman. New CEO Don't bother with a new Cartwright New manager Excellent You forgot to add new players. And new supporters? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2017 18:37:41 GMT
I feel sure that when the owner decides that the chairman cannot fulfil his duties, he will be replaced. I also think that the chairman does not act as a "maverick". He will be complying with the owner's wishes. What utter crap the owner is his daughter and Stoke City is his plaything. You can see quite clearly that the strategy of the two businesses are polar opposites one is an aggressive market leader the other is what you get from Peter Coates. I bow down to your obviously superior knowledge. I didn't realise that you were so closely connected to the "family". |
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Post by alster on Dec 9, 2017 18:44:06 GMT
What utter crap the owner is his daughter and Stoke City is his plaything. You can see quite clearly that the strategy of the two businesses are polar opposites one is an aggressive market leader the other is what you get from Peter Coates. I bow down to your obviously superior knowledge. I didn't realise that you were so closely connected to the "family". Don't need to be, never heard of MO modus operandi. The way the club is run has all the hallmarks of Peter and none of the owner, his Daughter. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2017 18:52:44 GMT
It doesn't matter who holds the purse strings at the moment as only a complete idiot throws money at failing project.
Admitting it's a failing project is the big thing as no one wants to own up to being a failure.
The We have the best squad ever at Stoke and the We are playing quite well statements that come out of our club tell you everything that's wrong.
Blind leading the blind comes to mind. They will not admit to a problem therefore there is no problem.
One day it will hit them, perhaps when we are back playing the Vale hoping for a big club in the cup draw.
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Post by iglugluk on Dec 9, 2017 18:54:35 GMT
I bow down to your obviously superior knowledge. I didn't realise that you were so closely connected to the "family". Don't need to be, never heard of MO modus operandi. The way the club is run has all the hallmarks of Peter and none of the owner, his Daughter. Except for the odd missive about spending within the club's means, that is |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2017 19:14:42 GMT
I bow down to your obviously superior knowledge. I didn't realise that you were so closely connected to the "family". Don't need to be, never heard of MO modus operandi. The way the club is run has all the hallmarks of Peter and none of the owner, his Daughter. Denise has very little interest in Stoke City, Bet365 is her only concern really. Peter is still pulling the strings at Stoke City with his son sitting in the wings. |
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Post by rawli on Dec 9, 2017 19:24:59 GMT
Don't need to be, never heard of MO modus operandi. The way the club is run has all the hallmarks of Peter and none of the owner, his Daughter. Denise has very little interest in Stoke City, Bet365 is her only concern really. Peter is still pulling the strings at Stoke City with his son sitting in the wings. He's not pulling any strings. He's holding them limply and hoping the wind blows things in the right direction. |
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Post by kjpt140v on Dec 9, 2017 19:27:52 GMT
“Come on boys over the top, up and at ‘em, charge!!!! “Boys!!!! Boys? Boys?”  |
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Post by dexta on Dec 9, 2017 19:35:05 GMT
Coates out
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2017 19:42:22 GMT
Denise has very little interest in Stoke City, Bet365 is her only concern really. Peter is still pulling the strings at Stoke City with his son sitting in the wings. He's not pulling any strings. He's holding them limply and hoping the wind blows things in the right direction. Haha, yeah I reckon you’re right there. John was the driving force behind the Pulis sacking and it was John who put Hughes name forward. Peter still holds the reins but I think John will play a bigger role as his father gets older. Denise really doesn’t have much interest in Stoke City at all. |
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Post by magwitch on Dec 9, 2017 20:03:28 GMT
It doesn't matter who holds the purse strings at the moment as only a complete idiot throws money at failing project. Admitting it's a failing project is the big thing as no one wants to own up to being a failure. The We have the best squad ever at Stoke and the We are playing quite well statements that come out of our club tell you everything that's wrong. Blind leading the blind comes to mind. They will not admit to a problem therefore there is no problem. One day it will hit them, perhaps when we are back playing the Vale hoping for a big club in the cup draw. If they don't believe it is a failing project, perhaps they will throw money at it.  However this analysis makes sense and looking into the future through the crystal ball I can see the re-emergence of the old local rivalry. The Vale won today I notice!!! |
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Post by robstokie on Dec 9, 2017 20:32:23 GMT
Massive changes are needed top to bottom of the club. New chairman. New CEO Don't bother with a new Cartwright New manager Excellent As long as that tool Moxey isn't making a return, it sounds like a plan |
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Post by bingbang on Dec 10, 2017 17:30:11 GMT
Now as much as I think the manager has to go I can't get it out of my head that the real issue is the Coates family and the fact they won't spend money to take us on. Before any of you start ranting about the money spent on recent wasted transfers we are still shopping at the bargain basement. What really gets to me is that the family are making millions from football but don't seem to want to invest in it. I appreciate all they give to charity and admire them for it. Just this week I was reading an article in a racing paper how it goes to court in America in the next couple of weeks as to wether or not Internet gambling will be allowed through the entire USA and if it is allowed British companies are at the front for supplying the service I assume Bet 365 will be one. If passed this will become a multi billion pound business wonder if they may then decide to spend some or will it be " as you were "
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Post by supacoopa101 on Dec 10, 2017 17:38:54 GMT
I can back your argument by pointing you to the clubs fighting relegation alongside us spending millions on good players while we sit pretty thinking we can just get by with free transfers and loans.
You can also argue that we have wasted millions of pounds on 3 certain flops with one being on loan, one can't even get on the bench and one who is about as good at defending as my left shoe lace.
Does anybody think that these signings were even players that Hughes actually wanted or does it have a whiff of QPR about it.
In hindsight our transfer policy is undoubtedly the worst in the league
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Post by bingbang on Dec 10, 2017 17:46:46 GMT
I can back your argument by pointing you to the clubs fighting relegation alongside us spending millions on good players while we sit pretty thinking we can just get by with free transfers and loans. You can also argue that we have wasted millions of pounds on 3 certain flops with one being on loan, one can't even get on the bench and one who is about as good at defending as my left shoe lace. Does anybody think that these signings were even players that Hughes actually wanted or does it have a whiff of QPR about it. In hindsight our transfer policy is undoubtedly the worst in the league Watching football this afternoon you see man city and remember where they come from.Now I know we aren't going to spend the money city have but it shows what you can achieve by spending money and not just say 20 million on one player but say 150 million on half a new team. Because of their status now companies are queuing up to throw money at them it's called investment in the future |
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Post by GrahamHyde on Dec 10, 2017 17:49:36 GMT
Is he fuck. Complete bollocks.
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Post by bingbang on Dec 10, 2017 17:57:27 GMT
Is he fuck. Complete bollocks. Just my opinion, it's like history repeating itself when we had money in the seventies we didn't re invest when we were at the top of our game mainly due to the roof blowing off we then started to go on a slippery slope that took over 3 decades to recover from. In my opinion and it's just my opinion Peter Coates is quite happy to give a sum of money each season that should keep us in the premier league. |
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Post by wychewood on Dec 10, 2017 18:02:10 GMT
Peter Coates and family have been conning the people of Stoke for years .His goal is not on the football pitch but is to make money. He will invest the minimum to get his Sky money. I would like to know what dividends he and his family have take from the club as compared to his investment
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Post by Northy on Dec 10, 2017 18:02:18 GMT
sits back and waits for Benji ......
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Dec 10, 2017 18:05:19 GMT
Peter Coates is a fucking legend, he has done so much for this club and the city that he should receive one blowjob from every single adult in the entire North Staffordshire area.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Dec 10, 2017 18:07:42 GMT
Peter Coates and family have been conning the people of Stoke for years .His goal is not on the football pitch but is to make money. He will invest the minimum to get his Sky money. I would like to know what dividends he and his family have take from the club as compared to his investment What an utter steaming bucket of infected bloody cuntslop that is, that's the worst opinion anyone has ever had about anything. |
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Dec 10, 2017 18:08:40 GMT
Coates in my opinion has been the problem for sometime its time to hand over to someone else before he completely ruins everything good that he has done.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Dec 10, 2017 18:09:32 GMT
Another post on the same subject, dont people look at other posts before they start new ones??
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 10, 2017 18:10:35 GMT
I wouldn’t go that far yet, however his apparent refusal to sack Hughes when he should have done so at the start of the season means he’s now becoming just as culpable as Hughes is for this run of utter shit.
It’s soon rectified the moment he pulls the trigger, but until then I think it’s justified to level some, not all of the blame at Coates’s doorstep.
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However this analysis makes sense and looking into the future through the crystal ball I can see the re-emergence of the old local rivalry. The Vale won today I notice!!!
