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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Dec 10, 2017 20:31:36 GMT
Without Peter Coates's investment we'd probably be in League One now. I know we're all frustrated that he hasn't pulled the trigger on Hughes yet, but let's not get completely fucking stupid. Coates has provided funds every transfer window- it's not his fault that the manager spends it like a chav lottery winner. All he can do is fire him, which he will do very soon. The leagues below us are full of bigger clubs than us who've been badly run by owners who don't give a fuck about the club or the fans. Some of you lot won't rest until we're back there. Bloody top post that is, marra.
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Post by thedarkknight on Dec 13, 2017 12:24:45 GMT
I feel sure that when the owner decides that the chairman cannot fulfil his duties, he will be replaced. I also think that the chairman does not act as a "maverick". He will be complying with the owner's wishes. What utter crap the owner is his daughter and Stoke City is his plaything. You can see quite clearly that the strategy of the two businesses are polar opposites one is an aggressive market leader the other is what you get from Peter Coates. Except B365 isn't a market leader...it's the 4th largest bookmakers.
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Post by nott1 on Dec 13, 2017 12:27:52 GMT
Perhaps it's time Peter stepped down and let his son take over. Perhaps his ideas have become very blinkered let someone with fresh ideas take on the challenge. Rubbish, he continues to subsidise the club with his money, and without him we would not even be in this league!
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Post by alster on Dec 13, 2017 12:32:12 GMT
Perhaps it's time Peter stepped down and let his son take over. Perhaps his ideas have become very blinkered let someone with fresh ideas take on the challenge. Rubbish, he continues to subsidise the club with his money, and without him we would not even be in this league! What the fuck ever gave you that idea? The debt is to bet365 of which he owns less than 10%.
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Post by redstriper on Dec 13, 2017 12:42:38 GMT
here we go, the abuse of the chairman starts...
lets get on his back so he sells, brilliant!, we can then replace a philanthropic lifelong local supporter with a foreign moneyman with no affinity to the area, the culture, or the people. We can become as soulless as the most of the rest of the premiership then.
Peter Coates is known for his loyalty to his employees, which is why sparky is still in post and why bet365 employ a lot of relatively expensive local people, never mind, fuck him off and they can take away their local jobs and move offshore...
jesus fucking wept...
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Post by hanibal7 on Dec 13, 2017 12:49:29 GMT
I can back your argument by pointing you to the clubs fighting relegation alongside us spending millions on good players while we sit pretty thinking we can just get by with free transfers and loans. You can also argue that we have wasted millions of pounds on 3 certain flops with one being on loan, one can't even get on the bench and one who is about as good at defending as my left shoe lace. Does anybody think that these signings were even players that Hughes actually wanted or does it have a whiff of QPR about it. In hindsight our transfer policy is undoubtedly the worst in the league clubs fighting relegation, and spent millions on good players, hehehe, are you for real or a comedian.The daftest post ever, even better than biscuit
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Post by hanibal7 on Dec 13, 2017 12:52:14 GMT
If you are the intellect of a typical potter no wonder the rest of the country call you clayheads so who the fuck r u, paddy fkn power, and a shit fan.Fuck off this board, u imbicile.
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Post by GoBoks on Dec 13, 2017 12:54:46 GMT
Massive changes are needed top to bottom of the club. New chairman. New CEO Don't bother with a new Cartwright New manager Excellent You left out new “fans”
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Post by followyoudown on Dec 13, 2017 12:55:11 GMT
Perhaps it's time Peter stepped down and let his son take over. Perhaps his ideas have become very blinkered let someone with fresh ideas take on the challenge. Rubbish, he continues to subsidise the club with his money, and without him we would not even be in this league! I don't want him to step down as chairman but it is important to remember, a large part of the reason we weren't in this league to begin with was Coates Mk I.
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Post by GoBoks on Dec 13, 2017 12:59:00 GMT
Rubbish, he continues to subsidise the club with his money, and without him we would not even be in this league! I don't want him to step down as chairman but it is important to remember, a large part of the reason we weren't in this league to begin with was Coates Mk I. You mean the Coates who had very little money(relatively)
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Post by Fred Ferret on Dec 13, 2017 13:00:33 GMT
Perhaps it's time Peter stepped down and let his son take over. Perhaps his ideas have become very blinkered let someone with fresh ideas take on the challenge. We all know the problems currently prevailing. However, Peter Coates has been a remarkable Chairman in his latest tenure and must have the support of John Coates, et al. I am sure that they will take the correct steps in addressing these issues. Coates has a reputation as a fair-minded person, pragmatist and successful businessman. We have a wealthy family backing this club of ours - who have invested millions. We should be grateful for that, despite the fact that the recent investments should have been better spent. I believe that the owners will do the right thing. It may not be as instantaneous as we would all like but we do have 21 games still to play. At least we don't have to put up with some foreigner ruling the roost - with no affinity for the area and supporters. Deal with inept management (coaches, scouting, recruitment and negotiation people included) but let's not kneejerk into wanting regime change.
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Post by Fred Ferret on Dec 13, 2017 13:02:57 GMT
Peter Coates and family have been conning the people of Stoke for years .His goal is not on the football pitch but is to make money. He will invest the minimum to get his Sky money. I would like to know what dividends he and his family have take from the club as compared to his investment I've read some tripe on here - this has to take the award for top plonker.
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Post by GoBoks on Dec 13, 2017 13:04:05 GMT
Without Peter Coates's investment we'd probably be in League One now. I know we're all frustrated that he hasn't pulled the trigger on Hughes yet, but let's not get completely fucking stupid. Coates has provided funds every transfer window- it's not his fault that the manager spends it like a chav lottery winner. All he can do is fire him, which he will do very soon. The leagues below us are full of bigger clubs than us who've been badly run by owners who don't give a fuck about the club or the fans. Some of you lot won't rest until we're back there. Hear hear!
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Post by alster on Dec 13, 2017 13:06:50 GMT
Without Peter Coates's investment we'd probably be in League One now. I know we're all frustrated that he hasn't pulled the trigger on Hughes yet, but let's not get completely fucking stupid. Coates has provided funds every transfer window- it's not his fault that the manager spends it like a chav lottery winner. All he can do is fire him, which he will do very soon. The leagues below us are full of bigger clubs than us who've been badly run by owners who don't give a fuck about the club or the fans. Some of you lot won't rest until we're back there. Hear hear! You do realise he took us there twice?
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Post by followyoudown on Dec 13, 2017 13:15:36 GMT
I don't want him to step down as chairman but it is important to remember, a large part of the reason we weren't in this league to begin with was Coates Mk I. You mean the Coates who had very little money(relatively) He made the decisions to hire and fire managers that ultimately led us to Division 3 (old money) twice under Mk I.
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Post by alster on Dec 13, 2017 13:19:09 GMT
You mean the Coates who had very little money(relatively) He made the decisions to hire and fire managers that ultimately led us to Division 3 (old money) twice under Mk I. He also clung on to power like a limpet clings to a rock until he found an investor gullible enough to go for his golden share nonsense.
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Post by alster on Dec 13, 2017 13:22:02 GMT
You mean the Coates who had very little money(relatively) He made the decisions to hire and fire managers that ultimately led us to Division 3 (old money) twice under Mk I. Funnily enough he was trying to run the club in a self sustaining manner.
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Post by Fred Ferret on Dec 13, 2017 13:24:55 GMT
Hear hear! You do realise he took us there twice? And he also took us up to the championship and then somewhere else? Oh yes, 10 years in the PL! It's not always a one-way street.
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Post by lordb on Dec 13, 2017 13:25:31 GMT
He made the decisions to hire and fire managers that ultimately led us to Division 3 (old money) twice under Mk I. Funnily enough he was trying to run the club in a self sustaining manner. Caotes in the old days made mistake after mistake after mistake
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Post by juiceandbits on Dec 13, 2017 13:29:19 GMT
He's not pulling any strings. He's holding them limply and hoping the wind blows things in the right direction. Haha, yeah I reckon you’re right there. John was the driving force behind the Pulis sacking and it was John who put Hughes name forward. Peter still holds the reins but I think John will play a bigger role as his father gets older. Denise really doesn’t have much interest in Stoke City at all. Do we actually know this?
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Post by sutekh on Dec 13, 2017 13:31:22 GMT
Massive changes are needed top to bottom of the club. New chairman. New CEO Don't bother with a new Cartwright New manager Excellent Scholes and the fat goalkeeper should both be strung up with piano wire and paraded through s.o.t.
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Post by alster on Dec 13, 2017 13:32:04 GMT
Funnily enough he was trying to run the club in a self sustaining manner. Caotes in the old days made mistake after mistake after mistake Just like now really. He cuts back investment when all our competitors are increasing theirs, He persists with a CEO who can't close deals and a football manager who can't win games because he's scared of losing them.
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Post by alster on Dec 13, 2017 13:35:21 GMT
You do realise he took us there twice? And he also took us up to the championship and then somewhere else? Oh yes, 10 years in the PL! It's not always a one-way street. One man in the clubs 150 odd year history took us to our lowest level on two occasions whilst trying to run the football club without putting any money into it. How many occasions during our history have we played at that level?
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Dec 13, 2017 13:35:27 GMT
I dont get why Coates is getting shit for this
- He got rid of Pulis when it was the right time - Hughes was a good appointment and improved us - He has backed both managers with the necessary funds - He is trying to keep the club stable - He is deemed one of the best chairmen in the league with his football knowledge and relationship he builds with his manager
For sure will be very concerned now. I think he genuinely likes Hughes and is giving him the most opportunity he can. We arent yet in the relegation zone and the Jan transfer window is still 3 weeks away.
The only issue I would aim at Coates is this favouritism of British managers with Prem experience. He needs to widen his field of vision there. Oh and his continued employment of Tony Scholes as CEO
But overall I hope Coates is still our chairman for another 10 years.
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Post by GoBoks on Dec 13, 2017 13:40:49 GMT
Hear hear! You do realise he took us there twice? In a version which, in hindsight, he had the right sized heart but the wrong sized checkbook.
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Post by alster on Dec 13, 2017 13:45:47 GMT
You do realise he took us there twice? In a version which, in hindsight, he had the right sized heart but the wrong sized checkbook. Doesn't matter how big your cheques could be if you're not willing to write them.
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Post by GoBoks on Dec 13, 2017 13:46:16 GMT
And he also took us up to the championship and then somewhere else? Oh yes, 10 years in the PL! It's not always a one-way street. One man in the clubs 150 odd year history took us to our lowest level on two occasions whilst trying to run the football club without putting any money into it. How many occasions during our history have we played at that level? So alster, you are advocating that we get rid of the Coates family? And replace with who exactly? An Icelandic consortium? A Russian consortium? A Chinese billionaire? Oh wait, I know, Donald Trump! After all we wear red and white stripes, all we need to do is add a blue band down each sleeve with silver stars and we”re sorted!
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Post by Rick Grimes on Dec 13, 2017 13:50:43 GMT
Without Peter Coates's investment we'd probably be in League One now. I know we're all frustrated that he hasn't pulled the trigger on Hughes yet, but let's not get completely fucking stupid. Coates has provided funds every transfer window- it's not his fault that the manager spends it like a chav lottery winner. All he can do is fire him, which he will do very soon. The leagues below us are full of bigger clubs than us who've been badly run by owners who don't give a fuck about the club or the fans. Some of you lot won't rest until we're back there. Fully agree. Hughes and the rest of the transfer team need to go though, we're in the position we are through poor player recruitment.
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Post by Fred Ferret on Dec 13, 2017 13:54:28 GMT
And he also took us up to the championship and then somewhere else? Oh yes, 10 years in the PL! It's not always a one-way street. One man in the clubs 150 odd year history took us to our lowest level on two occasions whilst trying to run the football club without putting any money into it. How many occasions during our history have we played at that level? Suppose we can sum that up with the analogy about how we all have our own perceptions: glass half-full or half-empty. Each to their own.
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Post by alster on Dec 13, 2017 13:54:31 GMT
I dont get why Coates is getting shit for this - He got rid of Pulis when it was the right time. Too late- Hughes was a good appointment and improved us allowed to go stale- He has backed both managers with the necessary funds recent investment has been one of if not the lowest season on season- He is trying to keep the club stable He tried it before it was wank- He is deemed one of the best chairmen in the league with his football knowledge and relationship he builds with his manager Too cosy and knows little For sure will be very concerned now. I think he genuinely likes Hughes and is giving him the most opportunity he can. We arent yet in the relegation zone and the Jan transfer window is still 3 weeks away. That's it leave everything until the very last minute then panic and employ another dour bastard or even the same one
The only issue I would aim at Coates is this favouritism of British managers with Prem experience. He needs to widen his field of vision there. out of touchOh and his continued employment of Tony Scholes as CEO does as he's toldBut overall I hope Coates is still our chairman for another 10 years. retired or dead
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