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Post by crapslinger on Nov 25, 2017 19:35:24 GMT
He was slightly better than the Leicester game, is he as good as BMI ? I thought BMI was excellent last season so if he's fit I'd have no issue with him playing. All I'm saying is I think Wimmers ok and seems to be getting better. Did we need him though, we had just signed BMI and Zouma makes no sense to me especially for £18 million.
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Post by Gunslinger on Nov 25, 2017 19:35:32 GMT
Erm. He was pretty good today As a defender you can't be said to have played well if you make a mistake which costs your team a goal. I've not seen a replay but he looked to be at fault for their 1st goal I actually thought Wimmer did ok today. Have look at the replays for both the first and second goal - Shawcross didn't actually cover himself in glory at both goals.
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 25, 2017 19:41:43 GMT
As a defender you can't be said to have played well if you make a mistake which costs your team a goal. I've not seen a replay but he looked to be at fault for their 1st goal I actually thought Wimmer did ok today. Have look at the replays for both the first and second goal - Shawcross didn't actually cover himself in glory at both goals. Did we need Wimmer ?
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Nov 25, 2017 19:43:23 GMT
I actually thought Wimmer did ok today. Have look at the replays for both the first and second goal - Shawcross didn't actually cover himself in glory at both goals. Did we need Wimmer ? Maybe not but that's a different question, he's actually a solid defender
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 19:43:39 GMT
The question has to be... Is he better than the bloke he's keeping out of the side?
The answer is, is he fuck.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 19:46:43 GMT
I thought BMI was excellent last season so if he's fit I'd have no issue with him playing. All I'm saying is I think Wimmers ok and seems to be getting better. Did we need him though, we had just signed BMI and Zouma makes no sense to me especially for £18 million. Says to me he planned on playing a back four not a three. But perhaps that was plan B
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 25, 2017 19:47:17 GMT
Maybe not but that's a different question, he's actually a solid defender My question originally what was the rationale for signing Wimmer still not had a plausible answer, most seem to agree we did not need him so the obvious next question is did we need him !
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Post by march4 on Nov 25, 2017 19:48:21 GMT
Shotton is a brighter prospect!
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 25, 2017 19:48:58 GMT
Did we need him though, we had just signed BMI and Zouma makes no sense to me especially for £18 million. Says to me he planned on playing a back four not a three. But perhaps that was plan B At last an actual credible answer to my original question , plan B would be a better option than plan A which is dog shit.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 19:49:11 GMT
Maybe not but that's a different question, he's actually a solid defender My question originally what was the rationale for signing Wimmer still not had a plausible answer, most seem to agree we did not need him so the obvious next question is did we need him ! No we didn't. Why does any team need to sign players for a club record fee that aren't any better thsnxwjat they've already got?
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 25, 2017 19:50:01 GMT
Shotton is a brighter prospect! Can see TP bringing him back myself
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Nov 25, 2017 19:50:27 GMT
Maybe not but that's a different question, he's actually a solid defender My question originally what was the rationale for signing Wimmer still not had a plausible answer, most seem to agree we did not need him so the obvious next question is did we need him ! Probably didn't need him this season in fairness, but with Zouma only a loan and Shawcross injury prone he's probably an investment for the future. Obviously like the majority of others I'd prefer if a decent midfielder and a striker who can score had been signed
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Post by lawrieleslie on Nov 25, 2017 19:50:54 GMT
We needed a 16/17 goals a season striker and have not got one in 3 seasons, Wimmer is not the problem Try 10 seasons mate. The last 16/17 goal a season striker was arguably Riccy Fuller in the championship. It’s been our Achilles heel since promotion and you’re right it’s not the defence that’s the main problem. If we’d have stuck away those missed chances today we’d have comfortably won the game.
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 25, 2017 19:52:17 GMT
My question originally what was the rationale for signing Wimmer still not had a plausible answer, most seem to agree we did not need him so the obvious next question is did we need him ! No we didn't. Why does any team need to sign players for a club record fee that aren't any better thsnxwjat they've already got? I agree totally, I really can not see the justification for this signing at any level, grossly incompetent management yet again.
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 25, 2017 19:54:19 GMT
We needed a 16/17 goals a season striker and have not got one in 3 seasons, Wimmer is not the problem Try 10 seasons mate. The last 16/17 goal a season striker was arguably Riccy Fuller in the championship. It’s been our Achilles heel since promotion and you’re right it’s not the defence that’s the main problem. If we’d have stuck away those missed chances today we’d have comfortably won the game. We desperately missed Berahino today, his runs have been fantastic this season
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Post by thedarkknight on Nov 25, 2017 19:55:05 GMT
I actually thought Wimmer did ok today. Have look at the replays for both the first and second goal - Shawcross didn't actually cover himself in glory at both goals. Did we need Wimmer ? Look back a few weeks when we had 1 fit CB, the answers yes.
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Post by medwaypotter on Nov 25, 2017 20:01:09 GMT
No we didn't. Why does any team need to sign players for a club record fee that aren't any better thsnxwjat they've already got? I agree totally, I really can not see the justification for this signing at any level, grossly incompetent management yet again. playing 3 at the back, Zoumas a loan, and the shawcoss injuries, makes sense to me
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 25, 2017 20:08:14 GMT
Look back a few weeks when we had 1 fit CB, the answers yes. I see a back for the back up costing £18 million
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Post by thedarkknight on Nov 25, 2017 20:14:18 GMT
Look back a few weeks when we had 1 fit CB, the answers yes. I see a back for the back up costing £18 million No, he's clearly 1st choice. BMI is the back up 👍
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Post by robboleek on Nov 25, 2017 20:17:17 GMT
Let’s just play Haugaard then shall we!!! Only other option we have. Seriously ??? Drop our player of season last year and play somebody who has proved himself to be just crap time and time again ?
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Post by lawrieleslie on Nov 25, 2017 20:18:00 GMT
Try 10 seasons mate. The last 16/17 goal a season striker was arguably Riccy Fuller in the championship. It’s been our Achilles heel since promotion and you’re right it’s not the defence that’s the main problem. If we’d have stuck away those missed chances today we’d have comfortably won the game. We desperately missed Berahino today, his runs have been fantastic this season Pisser!
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 25, 2017 20:18:23 GMT
I see a back for the back up costing £18 million No, he's clearly 1st choice. BMI is the back up 👍 Really we are truly in the shit then, I can Wimmer going the same way as Wolfy our last attempt at playing a ball playing CB who could not defend.
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Nov 25, 2017 20:19:04 GMT
Is he any better than muni or even Wolly?
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 25, 2017 20:19:14 GMT
Only other option we have. Seriously ??? Drop our player of season last year and play somebody who has proved himself to be just crap time and time again ?
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 25, 2017 20:20:44 GMT
Is he any better than muni or even Wolly? Muni is and was twice the player and always will be, Wolly was well Wolly in all senses.
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Post by thedarkknight on Nov 25, 2017 20:21:50 GMT
No, he's clearly 1st choice. BMI is the back up 👍 Really we are truly in the shit then, I can Wimmer going the same way as Wolfy our last attempt at playing a ball playing CB who could not defend. He was decent today. I see our Ryan's getting a pass for being piss poor though.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Nov 25, 2017 20:23:30 GMT
What was the rational in signing him ? What’s the rational behind the timing of your post? We’ve got major problems, but Wimmer is the least of them.
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 25, 2017 20:25:14 GMT
Really we are truly in the shit then, I can Wimmer going the same way as Wolfy our last attempt at playing a ball playing CB who could not defend. He was decent today. I see our Ryan's getting a pass for being piss poor though. Ryan is immune from criticism he is a God at the club and deservedly so, Ryan has been well above decent for many years, let's see where Wimmer is in the next ten years
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 25, 2017 20:27:38 GMT
What was the rational in signing him ? What’s the rational behind the timing of your post? We’ve got major problems, but Wimmer is the least of them. Just asking others thoughts on the reason for the signing, he was actually slightly better than the Leicester game today, what do you see as the biggest problem of our major problems ?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 25, 2017 20:29:43 GMT
As a defender you can't be said to have played well if you make a mistake which costs your team a goal. I've not seen a replay but he looked to be at fault for their 1st goal I actually thought Wimmer did ok today. Have look at the replays for both the first and second goal - Shawcross didn't actually cover himself in glory at both goals. I've just seen them, albeit quickly before my phone finally died. Not sure what Pieters or Wimmer were doing on the opening goal to be honest and Grant should have saved the second though it looked like Cabeye actually miskicked it. Regardless, we've been the better side in our last two games, our keeper has barely been troubled yet we've conceded 4 goals. It simply isn't good enough and changes have to be made. Wimmer will be the fall guy.
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