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Dec 2, 2017 17:43:22 GMT
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Dec 2, 2017 17:43:22 GMT
He set Erik and Shaq up, in fairness. Two very good chances. That pass to Erik was way too late and behind him. He should have shot on the Erik one decent set up for Shaq but needs a lot more improvement
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Dec 2, 2017 17:45:24 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 2, 2017 17:45:24 GMT
Had a good game, he's a starter every week for me.
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Dec 2, 2017 18:10:35 GMT
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Post by lordb on Dec 2, 2017 18:10:35 GMT
He likes what he is,a talented teenager. I think Hughes is using him correctly this season.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 2, 2017 18:12:58 GMT
He likes what he is,a talented teenager. I think Hughes is using him correctly this season. As a defensive wide man to help Pieters, no thanks, today was better but he's essentially been playing as a second left wing back so far this season.
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Post by lichfieldboy on Dec 2, 2017 18:25:37 GMT
He's not a teenager anymore, he's 20, almost 21. And that's giving him the benefit of the doubt, there were questions asked about his age when he was in Egypt.
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Post by pottersrule on Dec 2, 2017 18:45:51 GMT
Maybe he'll end up as a wing back in Hughes system. He certainly isn't a winger.Snail like pace.
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Dec 2, 2017 18:50:03 GMT
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Post by canadianmoose on Dec 2, 2017 18:50:03 GMT
I wish he’d just get his head up and pass the ball sooner.
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Dec 2, 2017 18:58:46 GMT
He’s got the strength & the skill but just seems to lack the instinct of when to get rid or shoot. Almost like he is thinking about it too much, scared of making a mistake.
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Dec 2, 2017 19:02:28 GMT
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Post by lordb on Dec 2, 2017 19:02:28 GMT
He likes what he is,a talented teenager. I think Hughes is using him correctly this season. As a defensive wide man to help Pieters, no thanks, today was better but he's essentially been playing as a second left wing back so far this season. I meant more that Hughes has given him good run of games (which he does need) but not every game (which he doesn't just yet).
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Dec 2, 2017 19:23:30 GMT
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Post by walrus on Dec 2, 2017 19:23:30 GMT
Maybe he'll end up as a wing back in Hughes system. He certainly isn't a winger.Snail like pace. I don’t agree with that. I think if you watch back the clip of the attack where he tried to feed in Pieters rather than shoot you’ll see him accelerating away from defenders quite comfortably. His weakness is his decision making, and he’s now played enough football that we can’t really pass it off as inexperience or nerves any more.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2017 20:13:07 GMT
He certainly isn't a winger.Snail like pace. I don’t agree with that. I think if you watch back the clip of the attack where he tried to feed in Pieters rather than shoot you’ll see him accelerating away from defenders quite comfortably. His weakness is his decision making, and he’s now played enough football that we can’t really pass it off as inexperience or nerves any more. He just needs to be told to put his foot through it when he has a chance to shoot.
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Dec 2, 2017 20:20:09 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 2, 2017 20:20:09 GMT
Maybe he'll end up as a wing back in Hughes system. He certainly isn't a winger.Snail like pace. The way he plays he doesn't need it.
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Dec 2, 2017 20:21:15 GMT
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Post by pottersrule on Dec 2, 2017 20:21:15 GMT
He certainly isn't a winger.Snail like pace. I don’t agree with that. I think if you watch back the clip of the attack where he tried to feed in Pieters rather than shoot you’ll see him accelerating away from defenders quite comfortably. His weakness is his decision making, and he’s now played enough football that we can’t really pass it off as inexperience or nerves any more. I agree his decision making isn't good,but he certainly isn't quick. I don't recall him accelerating away from anyone tbh. I think he looks stiff and over muscled,as if he has spent to much time in the gym and I've thought it all season.
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Post by stokie23 on Dec 2, 2017 20:39:29 GMT
There was a muppet next to me that went absolutely mental when Ramadam passed it to Pieters today... let me just clear something up for him and any others doubting him.
Other than Shaq , he is the only player at the club that can pick up the ball on the halfway line and get to the byline or into the box with ease. Could the final ball be better? Yes, but the guy is 20, and does not get enough game time... he needs to play week in week out for at least a season before we can see what he will develop into in his mid 20s.
The ONLY time anything exciting happens is when the ball is at his feet, and god knows we need some excitement at the moment ... if this season we scrape through and finish 17th but Ramadam breaks through and gives us some moments of magic I would take that right now .
Can track back too... more effective than Choupo at LM
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Post by ramin on Dec 2, 2017 22:10:13 GMT
There was a muppet next to me that went absolutely mental when Ramadam passed it to Pieters today... let me just clear something up for him and any others doubting him. Other than Shaq , he is the only player at the club that can pick up the ball on the halfway line and get to the byline or into the box with ease. Could the final ball be better? Yes, but the guy is 20, and does not get enough game time... he needs to play week in week out for at least a season before we can see what he will develop into in his mid 20s. The ONLY time anything exciting happens is when the ball is at his feet, and god knows we need some excitement at the moment ... if this season we scrape through and finish 17th but Ramadam breaks through and gives us some moments of magic I would take that right now . Can track back too... more effective than Choupo at LM Spot on.
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Post by swampySCFC on Dec 2, 2017 22:12:30 GMT
Hes had his chances in recent games but sadly hasn't made an impact
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Post by alster on Dec 2, 2017 22:20:46 GMT
I don’t agree with that. I think if you watch back the clip of the attack where he tried to feed in Pieters rather than shoot you’ll see him accelerating away from defenders quite comfortably. His weakness is his decision making, and he’s now played enough football that we can’t really pass it off as inexperience or nerves any more. I agree his decision making isn't good,but he certainly isn't quick. I don't recall him accelerating away from anyone tbh.I think he looks stiff and over muscled,as if he has spent to much time in the gym and I've thought it all season. You either didn't go to the game or watched with your eyes closed.
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Post by pottersrule on Dec 3, 2017 20:05:53 GMT
I agree his decision making isn't good,but he certainly isn't quick. I don't recall him accelerating away from anyone tbh.I think he looks stiff and over muscled,as if he has spent to much time in the gym and I've thought it all season. You either didn't go to the game or watched with your eyes closed. Wrong as per fuckin usual.
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Dec 3, 2017 20:15:25 GMT
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Post by scfcwebby on Dec 3, 2017 20:15:25 GMT
Hes had his chances in recent games but sadly hasn't made an impact That my friend is utter arse gravy
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Post by sportsman on Dec 3, 2017 20:24:35 GMT
Hes had his chances in recent games but sadly hasn't made an impact That my friend is utter arse gravy Right. You can't write young players off who undoubtedly have ability.
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Dec 3, 2017 22:48:30 GMT
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 3, 2017 22:48:30 GMT
That my friend is utter arse gravy Right. You can't write young players off who undoubtedly have ability. I agree. I think we should persevere with this lad. He looked brilliant last season, and will be again.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 3, 2017 22:56:52 GMT
There was a muppet next to me that went absolutely mental when Ramadam passed it to Pieters today... let me just clear something up for him and any others doubting him. Other than Shaq , he is the only player at the club that can pick up the ball on the halfway line and get to the byline or into the box with ease. Could the final ball be better? Yes, but the guy is 20, and does not get enough game time... he needs to play week in week out for at least a season before we can see what he will develop into in his mid 20s. The ONLY time anything exciting happens is when the ball is at his feet, and god knows we need some excitement at the moment ... if this season we scrape through and finish 17th but Ramadam breaks through and gives us some moments of magic I would take that right now . Can track back too... more effective than Choupo at LM That Muppet sat next to you was right. It was a ridiculous decision to pass The ball. He simply had to shoot. I like Ramadan though. Such a shame he doesn't have express pace.
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Dec 4, 2017 8:17:01 GMT
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Post by alster on Dec 4, 2017 8:17:01 GMT
There was a muppet next to me that went absolutely mental when Ramadam passed it to Pieters today... let me just clear something up for him and any others doubting him. Other than Shaq , he is the only player at the club that can pick up the ball on the halfway line and get to the byline or into the box with ease. Could the final ball be better? Yes, but the guy is 20, and does not get enough game time... he needs to play week in week out for at least a season before we can see what he will develop into in his mid 20s. The ONLY time anything exciting happens is when the ball is at his feet, and god knows we need some excitement at the moment ... if this season we scrape through and finish 17th but Ramadam breaks through and gives us some moments of magic I would take that right now . Can track back too... more effective than Choupo at LM That Muppet sat next to you was right. It was a ridiculous decision to pass The ball. He simply had to shoot. I like Ramadan though. Such a shame he doesn't have express pace. I like Ramadan and I like my football played mainly on the ground but someone needs to have a word in his ear about refusing to shoot and never lofting the ball in when that’s the correct ball to play.
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Post by nott1 on Dec 4, 2017 12:05:47 GMT
He's still a kiddie and a good one at that. He'll be a star!
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Post by Gods on Dec 4, 2017 12:28:39 GMT
I actually feel more positive about Ramadan than I did this time last year. It can't be an easy transition for a 19/20 year old dragged from the suffocating heat of Cairo to the piss soaked streets of North Staffordshire And I reckon he is well up for giving it his best shot, seems to get on well with his team mates, is first in for the celebrations when we score and he has an excellent 'team' ethic. He can play a bit for sure but I think what he needs most of all is a Premier league goal. If he got that we could see 'lift off' from him. I think we need to stay the course with this young man
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Post by frodekippe on Dec 4, 2017 12:43:30 GMT
He's unquestionably extremely talented on the ball and has that instinct of wrong-footing a defender and appearing to glide past them, so I've no doubt that when he gains experience and develops the knack of releasing the ball at the right time and choosing when to pass/shoot he will be a top, top player. The only real niggle I have with him at the minute, though, is that for a player who came with a reputation for being such an exciting, attacking player with an arrogant edge to him, he really seems really reluctant to drive forward and make the most of space when it opens up for him. It's almost like it's a last resort to go for it. I don't know if it's a confidence thing, or a lack of bravery etc, or maybe he's being coached in a way that makes him a bit more conservative, but I think he needs to work on that instinct to be more ruthless and drive at the opposition when he makes space to fully realise his potential because he's got all the makings of a devastating player.
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Post by alster on Dec 4, 2017 12:47:02 GMT
He's unquestionably extremely talented on the ball and has that instinct of wrong-footing a defender and appearing to glide past them, so I've no doubt that when he gains experience and develops the knack of releasing the ball at the right time and choosing when to pass/shoot he will be a top, top player. The only real niggle I have with him at the minute, though, is that for a player who came with a reputation for being such an exciting, attacking player with an arrogant edge to him, he really seems really reluctant to drive forward and make the most of space when it opens up for him. It's almost like it's a last resort to go for it. I don't know if it's a confidence thing, or a lack of bravery etc, or maybe he's being coached in a way that makes him a bit more conservative, but I think he needs to work on that instinct to be more ruthless and drive at the opposition when he makes space to fully realise his potential because he's got all the makings of a devastating player. Nail on the head I think, even in the Rochdale game Hughes was shaking his head and having a go when he tried flashy stuff that didn't come off.
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Dec 4, 2017 16:21:18 GMT
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Dec 4, 2017 16:21:18 GMT
I agree his decision making isn't good,but he certainly isn't quick. I don't recall him accelerating away from anyone tbh.I think he looks stiff and over muscled,as if he has spent to much time in the gym and I've thought it all season. You either didn't go to the game or watched with your eyes closed. It wasn’t that he accelerated away as such though. He left the 2 players stood still with a brilliant turn and was able to run away from them with ease after that. It could be considered better than just simply running faster than the man. It’s what he did/didn’t do once he arrived in the box that was the problem, he needed to either play Pieters in immediately and in front of him, square it to either Crouch, Shaqiri or Diouf (can’t remember which 2 of them were in the box), or try to bend it into the fat post as the keeper would have been unsighted by the defender in front of him. In the end he did nothing and wasted the glorious chance he had created but that the only problem I see with him game, final decision making. He’s a cracking player though, just seems to get lost a bit when he starts, from the bench he really takes it to teams, especially since he is still a bit of an unknown quantity for many teams.
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Post by alster on Dec 4, 2017 16:26:06 GMT
You either didn't go to the game or watched with your eyes closed. It wasn’t that he accelerated away as such though. He left the 2 players stood still with a brilliant turn and was able to run away from them with ease after that. It could be considered better than just simply running faster than the man. It’s what he did/didn’t do once he arrived in the box that was the problem, he needed to either play Pieters in immediately and in front of him, square it to either Crouch, Shaqiri or Diouf (can’t remember which 2 of them were in the box), or try to bend it into the fat post as the keeper would have been unsighted by the defender in front of him. In the end he did nothing and wasted the glorious chance he had created but that the only problem I see with him game, final decision making. He’s a cracking player though, just seems to get lost a bit when he starts, from the bench he really takes it to teams, especially since he is still a bit of an unknown quantity for many teams. He's certainly not lightning quick but if he was as slow as he was being made out players would get back at him with ease. Yup end product is the problem couldn't agree more. I don't think not producing a lot in the final third in his recent starts is very fair on him, he was playing with a very defensive brief which he carried out well.
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Post by jezzascfc on Dec 4, 2017 16:27:31 GMT
Ramadan is the future - we need to invest in him and the other promising youngsters. He reminds me a bit of a young John Robertson, not the fastest, but with quick feet and a trick or two to get half a yard of space. His decision making needs to improve, but that will come with game time. He is a diligent worker and tracks back better than any of our other wing options, which can be useful away from home, especially with the weak left side of our defence.
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