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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 30, 2017 17:50:07 GMT
They've also played the most long balls of anybody. Thought that was West Ham and Brighton? Stoke, West Brom and Burnley are all in the bottom four for total passes made. Apologies, was looking at last season. They're grim to watch though. I know we are too, but I think if, for a second successive season, Hughes falls back on safety first to scrape his way to survival again he won't get away with it. I also think we've shown we can play reasonably positive, enterprising stuff, and appointing Dyche would essentially be saying goodbye to all that for the foreseeable.
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 30, 2017 19:11:34 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 30, 2017 19:17:07 GMT
Sam will get them safe and solid but it's not exactly the type of appointment that screams ambition does it?
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Post by leicspotter on Oct 30, 2017 19:19:21 GMT
I don't get this Big Sam jizz fest...hope he gets the job and takes 'em down.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 30, 2017 19:19:24 GMT
There is way too much football snobbery on this board, particularly bearing in mind the way we play of late!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 30, 2017 19:25:27 GMT
There is way too much football snobbery on this board, particularly bearing in mind the way we play of late! It's not snobbery at all. No fear pulisball I would have defended and enjoyed forever. I've seen plenty of Burnley games due to work and hand on heart, I'm yet to see them play anything remotely resembling entertaining football. I couldn't really give a shit if it's long ball, shortball or whatever. Just positive intent is good enough for me. Destroying games and losing to certain clubs before you even kick off isn't and was why I was more annoyed after man city than I was Bournemouth.
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Post by alster on Oct 30, 2017 19:37:39 GMT
There is way too much football snobbery on this board, particularly bearing in mind the way we play of late! Why is preferring to watch entertaining attacking football snobbery? Bearing in mind the way we play of late I can't stand it.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 30, 2017 19:48:28 GMT
There is way too much football snobbery on this board, particularly bearing in mind the way we play of late! I don't think it's football snobbery to say I wouldn't want to be stuck with Dyche for years. You play like that if you absolutely have to, but that shouldn't be our blueprint for the future.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 30, 2017 21:36:00 GMT
I did tell you on the 16th oct north west £5m a year all sounded out weeks ago , it's happening well well well what did i tell you yesterday , benjaminbiscuit Avatar yesterday at 12:23pm benjaminbiscuit said: StokieBoy31 Avatar yesterday at 12:04pm StokieBoy31 said: We had the chance to at least speak to Silva in the summer but the guys behind the scenes bottled it. Honestly I’d take anything over Hughes at the moment, I’d be thinking sacking season is coming up so I’d take Big Sam or Koeman (I don’t know how realistic that last suggestion is) Well for what its worth I heard this morning . Allardyce allegedly declared his non interest in the Scotland job early and changed his i don't want a job stance because he allegedly has a whiff of a job at a struggling premier league club that meets his criteria . 1 location ( has to be close to his north west base ) 2 Has to be a proper club with sound and stable ownership and funds 3 Has to be able to bring own back room staff and have final say on transfers 4 If it's England has to be premier league 5 Has to pay him what palace were . Not saying it's us as we are notoriously prickly around budget , transfers and salary, Everton fit the bill , we do , Leicester ? just about geographically , Burnley if Dyche moves on , ( but they aren't struggling ) but there is a definite change in the public stance towards another job Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/272415/said-hughes-october?page=9#ixzz4vmbuzNtGRead more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/user/16157/recent#ixzz4x1tWavzR
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 21:39:52 GMT
I did tell you on the 16th oct north west £5m a year all sounded out weeks ago , it's happening well well well what did i tell you yesterday , benjaminbiscuit Avatar yesterday at 12:23pm benjaminbiscuit said: StokieBoy31 Avatar yesterday at 12:04pm StokieBoy31 said: We had the chance to at least speak to Silva in the summer but the guys behind the scenes bottled it. Honestly I’d take anything over Hughes at the moment, I’d be thinking sacking season is coming up so I’d take Big Sam or Koeman (I don’t know how realistic that last suggestion is) Well for what its worth I heard this morning . Allardyce allegedly declared his non interest in the Scotland job early and changed his i don't want a job stance because he allegedly has a whiff of a job at a struggling premier league club that meets his criteria . 1 location ( has to be close to his north west base ) 2 Has to be a proper club with sound and stable ownership and funds 3 Has to be able to bring own back room staff and have final say on transfers 4 If it's England has to be premier league 5 Has to pay him what palace were . Not saying it's us as we are notoriously prickly around budget , transfers and salary, Everton fit the bill , we do , Leicester ? just about geographically , Burnley if Dyche moves on , ( but they aren't struggling ) but there is a definite change in the public stance towards another job Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/272415/said-hughes-october?page=9#ixzz4vmbuzNtGRead more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/user/16157/recent#ixzz4x1tWavzRYou rehashed this post after Shakespeare got sacked. You were really pleased with yourself if I recall. It turned out to be completely irrelevant I also recall......
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Post by skip on Oct 30, 2017 21:41:26 GMT
Yes Everton will go down because I have won the Euro Millions and bought off all the Premier League goalies. All except Butland. Not that I didn't try but he has integrity.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Oct 30, 2017 21:44:57 GMT
I did tell you on the 16th oct north west £5m a year all sounded out weeks ago , it's happening well well well what did i tell you yesterday , benjaminbiscuit Avatar yesterday at 12:23pm benjaminbiscuit said: StokieBoy31 Avatar yesterday at 12:04pm StokieBoy31 said: We had the chance to at least speak to Silva in the summer but the guys behind the scenes bottled it. Honestly I’d take anything over Hughes at the moment, I’d be thinking sacking season is coming up so I’d take Big Sam or Koeman (I don’t know how realistic that last suggestion is) Well for what its worth I heard this morning . Allardyce allegedly declared his non interest in the Scotland job early and changed his i don't want a job stance because he allegedly has a whiff of a job at a struggling premier league club that meets his criteria . 1 location ( has to be close to his north west base ) 2 Has to be a proper club with sound and stable ownership and funds 3 Has to be able to bring own back room staff and have final say on transfers 4 If it's England has to be premier league 5 Has to pay him what palace were . Not saying it's us as we are notoriously prickly around budget , transfers and salary, Everton fit the bill , we do , Leicester ? just about geographically , Burnley if Dyche moves on , ( but they aren't struggling ) but there is a definite change in the public stance towards another job Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/272415/said-hughes-october?page=9#ixzz4vmbuzNtGRead more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/user/16157/recent#ixzz4x1tWavzRYou been travelling again daft Benj, just haven't seen much of your negativity pervading the forum the last day or two? Oh yeah we won on Saturday...
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 31, 2017 2:10:25 GMT
I did tell you on the 16th oct north west £5m a year all sounded out weeks ago , it's happening well well well what did i tell you yesterday , benjaminbiscuit Avatar yesterday at 12:23pm benjaminbiscuit said: StokieBoy31 Avatar yesterday at 12:04pm StokieBoy31 said: We had the chance to at least speak to Silva in the summer but the guys behind the scenes bottled it. Honestly I’d take anything over Hughes at the moment, I’d be thinking sacking season is coming up so I’d take Big Sam or Koeman (I don’t know how realistic that last suggestion is) Well for what its worth I heard this morning . Allardyce allegedly declared his non interest in the Scotland job early and changed his i don't want a job stance because he allegedly has a whiff of a job at a struggling premier league club that meets his criteria . 1 location ( has to be close to his north west base ) 2 Has to be a proper club with sound and stable ownership and funds 3 Has to be able to bring own back room staff and have final say on transfers 4 If it's England has to be premier league 5 Has to pay him what palace were . Not saying it's us as we are notoriously prickly around budget , transfers and salary, Everton fit the bill , we do , Leicester ? just about geographically , Burnley if Dyche moves on , ( but they aren't struggling ) but there is a definite change in the public stance towards another job Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/272415/said-hughes-october?page=9#ixzz4vmbuzNtGRead more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/user/16157/recent#ixzz4x1tWavzRYou been travelling again daft Benj, just haven't seen much of your negativity pervading the forum the last day or two? Oh yeah we won on Saturday... Actually yes and will be for a while yet , but wrong again was on in a positive and congratulatory way late Saturday ,
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 31, 2017 3:02:53 GMT
You been travelling again daft Benj, just haven't seen much of your negativity pervading the forum the last day or two? Oh yeah we won on Saturday... Actually yes and will be for a while yet , but wrong again was on in a positive and congratulatory way late Saturday , We should have a whip round to ensure you are always flying on Saturday afternoons. You are always flying when we win. Book an earlier flight for this week we are the lunchtime kick off.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 31, 2017 7:46:42 GMT
I don't get this Big Sam jizz fest...hope he gets the job and takes 'em down. Actually, I hope he doesn't get the job as I'm pretty certain that, if he does, he will keep them up comfortably. He might not get them where they want to be (in the top 6) but he is Pulis-like in his ability to save a team from relegation. Although I don't hate Everton, I do think they are long overdue a spell in the Championship.
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Post by alster on Oct 31, 2017 8:09:06 GMT
I don't get this Big Sam jizz fest...hope he gets the job and takes 'em down. Actually, I hope he doesn't get the job as I'm pretty certain that, if he does, he will keep them up comfortably. He might not get them where they want to be (in the top 6) but he is Pulis-like in his ability to save a team from relegation. Although I don't hate Everton, I do think they are long overdue a spell in the Championship. I don't think Koeman (much as I've never got the jizz fest over him) would have taken them down either. Much as it seems like sour grapes on his behalf I think he's right that if they had clinched the Giroud deal they wouldn't have struggled anything like they have. Just like us their attack lacks a focal point Calvert Lewin is a sound prospect, Sandro more of a wide forward. Its hard playing in this league without that physicality up top especially when you've been used to it being there like they have and since when did big Sam play without a big centre forward. He'll have a job to change things to suit before January which Koeman could have done too. Real panic short term move.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 31, 2017 8:14:12 GMT
Actually, I hope he doesn't get the job as I'm pretty certain that, if he does, he will keep them up comfortably. He might not get them where they want to be (in the top 6) but he is Pulis-like in his ability to save a team from relegation. Although I don't hate Everton, I do think they are long overdue a spell in the Championship. I don't think Koeman (much as I've never got the jizz fest over him) would have taken them down either. Much as it seems like sour grapes on his behalf I think he's right that if they had clinched the Giroud deal they wouldn't have struggled anything like they have. Just like us their attack lacks a focal point Calvert Lewin is a sound prospect, Sandro more of a wide forward. Its hard playing in this league without that physicality up top especially when you've been used to it being there like they have and since when did big Sam play without a big centre forward. He'll have a job to change things to suit before January which Koeman could have done too. Real panic short term move. I agree with the need for a focal point, but Giroud wouldn't have solved their overwhelming problem which is their complete lack of pace in the final third. I agree they wouldn't have gone down under Koeman but I don't think they'd have been anywhere near where they wanted to be or should have been.
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Post by Billy the kid on Oct 31, 2017 8:19:16 GMT
That lad from Burnley is heads on favourite for the job according to sky sports this morning
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Post by alster on Oct 31, 2017 8:24:43 GMT
I don't think Koeman (much as I've never got the jizz fest over him) would have taken them down either. Much as it seems like sour grapes on his behalf I think he's right that if they had clinched the Giroud deal they wouldn't have struggled anything like they have. Just like us their attack lacks a focal point Calvert Lewin is a sound prospect, Sandro more of a wide forward. Its hard playing in this league without that physicality up top especially when you've been used to it being there like they have and since when did big Sam play without a big centre forward. He'll have a job to change things to suit before January which Koeman could have done too. Real panic short term move. I agree with the need for a focal point, but Giroud wouldn't have solved their overwhelming problem which is their complete lack of pace in the final third. I agree they wouldn't have gone down under Koeman but I don't think they'd have been anywhere near where they wanted to be or should have been. Very few teams end up where they want to be, I think they would have ended up about where a team should be that sold its main goal threat and not effectively replaced him(Arnie anyone?). In a way apart from the money obviously their transfer activity reminds me of ours too many players for some roles and non for others that obviously need attention, just sort of haphazard. The money really didn't help Koeman, they overpaid for just about everyone they bought in except Sandro who had a release clause.
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Post by alster on Oct 31, 2017 8:25:31 GMT
That lad from Burnley is heads on favourite for the job according to sky sports this morning Wow that will be fun for them.
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 31, 2017 8:35:45 GMT
I agree with the need for a focal point, but Giroud wouldn't have solved their overwhelming problem which is their complete lack of pace in the final third. I agree they wouldn't have gone down under Koeman but I don't think they'd have been anywhere near where they wanted to be or should have been. Very few teams end up where they want to be, I think they would have ended up about where a team should be that sold its main goal threat and not effectively replaced him(Arnie anyone?). In a way apart from the money obviously their transfer activity reminds me of ours too many players for some roles and non for others that obviously need attention, just sort of haphazard. The money really didn't help Koeman, they overpaid for just about everyone they bought in except Sandro who had a release clause. He isn't much of a main goal threat sat getting splinters in his arse at the bubble blowers If a player isn't good enough for West Ham he's not good enough for Stoke
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Post by Northy on Oct 31, 2017 8:36:30 GMT
That lad from Burnley is heads on favourite for the job according to sky sports this morning which lad is that, there's plenty of lads in Burnley
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Post by alster on Oct 31, 2017 8:38:47 GMT
Very few teams end up where they want to be, I think they would have ended up about where a team should be that sold its main goal threat and not effectively replaced him(Arnie anyone?). In a way apart from the money obviously their transfer activity reminds me of ours too many players for some roles and non for others that obviously need attention, just sort of haphazard. The money really didn't help Koeman, they overpaid for just about everyone they bought in except Sandro who had a release clause. He isn't much of a main goal threat sat getting splinters in his arse at the bubble blowers If a player isn't good enough for West Ham he's not good enough for Stoke Now you're trying to rewrite history, he was plenty good enough for Stoke.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 31, 2017 8:39:18 GMT
That lad from Burnley is heads on favourite for the job according to sky sports this morning Wow that will be fun for them. It doen't appear like they've been having a tremendous amount of fun under the fancy Dutch lad and their football has been cynical and terrible to watch, as we saw first hand on the first day of the season.
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Post by alster on Oct 31, 2017 8:41:02 GMT
Wow that will be fun for them. It doen't appear like they've been having a tremendous amount of fun under the fancy Dutch lad and their football has been cynical and terrible to watch, as we saw first hand on the first day of the season. Difference being it will always be terrible to watch under Dyche if they employ him.
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Post by Davef on Oct 31, 2017 8:41:23 GMT
I did tell you on the 16th oct north west £5m a year all sounded out weeks ago , it's happening well well well what did i tell you yesterday , benjaminbiscuit Avatar yesterday at 12:23pm benjaminbiscuit said: StokieBoy31 Avatar yesterday at 12:04pm StokieBoy31 said: We had the chance to at least speak to Silva in the summer but the guys behind the scenes bottled it. Honestly I’d take anything over Hughes at the moment, I’d be thinking sacking season is coming up so I’d take Big Sam or Koeman (I don’t know how realistic that last suggestion is) Well for what its worth I heard this morning . Allardyce allegedly declared his non interest in the Scotland job early and changed his i don't want a job stance because he allegedly has a whiff of a job at a struggling premier league club that meets his criteria . 1 location ( has to be close to his north west base ) 2 Has to be a proper club with sound and stable ownership and funds 3 Has to be able to bring own back room staff and have final say on transfers 4 If it's England has to be premier league 5 Has to pay him what palace were . Not saying it's us as we are notoriously prickly around budget , transfers and salary, Everton fit the bill , we do , Leicester ? just about geographically , Burnley if Dyche moves on , ( but they aren't struggling ) but there is a definite change in the public stance towards another job Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/272415/said-hughes-october?page=9#ixzz4vmbuzNtGRead more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/user/16157/recent#ixzz4x1tWavzRYou rehashed this post after Shakespeare got sacked. You were really pleased with yourself if I recall. It turned out to be completely irrelevant I also recall...... Stop the presses... High profile manager interested in/linked with high profile job.
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 31, 2017 8:52:06 GMT
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 31, 2017 8:55:29 GMT
I agree with the need for a focal point, but Giroud wouldn't have solved their overwhelming problem which is their complete lack of pace in the final third. I agree they wouldn't have gone down under Koeman but I don't think they'd have been anywhere near where they wanted to be or should have been. Very few teams end up where they want to be, I think they would have ended up about where a team should be that sold its main goal threat and not effectively replaced him(Arnie anyone?). In a way apart from the money obviously their transfer activity reminds me of ours too many players for some roles and non for others that obviously need attention, just sort of haphazard. The money really didn't help Koeman, they overpaid for just about everyone they bought in except Sandro who had a release clause. Yeah I think he was very kid in a sweet shop. Baffling why he didn't see fit to add any pace at all to his forward line, it's one of the most important commodities in Premier League football.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 31, 2017 8:56:30 GMT
Wow that will be fun for them. It doen't appear like they've been having a tremendous amount of fun under the fancy Dutch lad and their football has been cynical and terrible to watch, as we saw first hand on the first day of the season. So they're going for more of the same then? Sounds like a winner.
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Post by cousindupree on Oct 31, 2017 8:59:45 GMT
I don't get this Big Sam jizz fest...hope he gets the job and takes 'em down. Actually, I hope he doesn't get the job as I'm pretty certain that, if he does, he will keep them up comfortably. He might not get them where they want to be (in the top 6) but he is Pulis-like in his ability to save a team from relegation. Although I don't hate Everton, I do think they are long overdue a spell in the Championship. Ha ha you are right Forny just 4 years out of 118 spent outside the top division says it should be their turn . But it won't be even if Koeman had remained they would have soon climbed the table, he would have eventually stumbled on his best first xi. They have some seriously good players.
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