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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 11:26:34 GMT
Ah the old "who would you bring in" bollocks is rearing its head again. Why should a supporter have to name names of managers who the club could replace Hughes with? I'm pretty sure that like me, there are a shit load of fans who don't follow all the other leagues around the world or even follow other leagues in this country, but employees of our football club should be doing this not only for players but also for potential managers just in case the situation at the club changes. I'd never heard of a shed load of these successful foreign managers before they got jobs in this country, so nobody can tell me that there aren't managers out there who could do a better job than what Hughes is currently doing. Nobody should *have* to name names of any replacement but it looks a bit empty if you just stand there crying for the manager to go and not at least have an idea of the type of football you'd like to see or the kind of manager that plays it. It gives football fans a worse name.
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 16, 2017 11:26:36 GMT
Ah the old "who would you bring in" bollocks is rearing its head again. Why should a supporter have to name names of managers who the club could replace Hughes with? I'm pretty sure that like me, there are a shit load of fans who don't follow all the other leagues around the world or even follow other leagues in this country, but employees of our football club should be doing this not only for players but also for potential managers just in case the situation at the club changes. I'd never heard of a shed load of these successful foreign managers before they got jobs in this country, so nobody can tell me that there aren't managers out there who could do a better job than what Hughes is currently doing. Ah the old 'why should a supporter name names..' bollocks. You're qualified enough to tell us exactly what is going wrong but can't come up with a simple name or two who would improve things. And who are the shed load of successful foreign managers?
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Oct 16, 2017 11:40:19 GMT
Wears his heart on his sleeve, kicks every ball.....yet almost got Man City relegated and won 3 out of 21 for Forest before getting sacked. I wear my heart on my sleeve and kick every ball, doesn't mean i can manage a club team for shit though mate I'm pretty certain Prestwich was being sarcastic Millsy. 😉 In which case i will happily "Whoosh" myself
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Oct 16, 2017 11:43:08 GMT
Ah the old "who would you bring in" bollocks is rearing its head again. Why should a supporter have to name names of managers who the club could replace Hughes with? I'm pretty sure that like me, there are a shit load of fans who don't follow all the other leagues around the world or even follow other leagues in this country, but employees of our football club should be doing this not only for players but also for potential managers just in case the situation at the club changes. I'd never heard of a shed load of these successful foreign managers before they got jobs in this country, so nobody can tell me that there aren't managers out there who could do a better job than what Hughes is currently doing.Ahhh the old "I'll call for his head and will freely admit have no idea who is better but there simply must be someone better who is guaranteed to want to give up their current job and come here, even though i've just admitted i have no clue either way" bollocks! Simply brilliant
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 11:43:17 GMT
I'm pretty certain Prestwich was being sarcastic Millsy. 😉 In which case i will happily "Whoosh" myself I am what's called a "sarcastic prick" mate - ignore me.....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 12:13:00 GMT
Ok to get the debate going: 3 British managers who could come in & take over please play by Peter's rules. You're saying we should get Pulis - who is dying to go back here.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 16, 2017 12:13:41 GMT
Ah the old "who would you bring in" bollocks is rearing its head again. Why should a supporter have to name names of managers who the club could replace Hughes with? I'm pretty sure that like me, there are a shit load of fans who don't follow all the other leagues around the world or even follow other leagues in this country, but employees of our football club should be doing this not only for players but also for potential managers just in case the situation at the club changes. I'd never heard of a shed load of these successful foreign managers before they got jobs in this country, so nobody can tell me that there aren't managers out there who could do a better job than what Hughes is currently doing.Ahhh the old "I'll call for his head and will freely admit have no idea who is better but there simply must be someone better who is guaranteed to want to give up their current job and come here, even though i've just admitted i have no clue either way" bollocks! Simply brilliant Pugs on the basis of my previous post and never lacking the courage of conviction ,I'd say it's allardyce and I think he'd be the only choice . Not convinced it's a manager issue so whether we would keep him open to debate as he wil walk if he feels he is being held back by the incompetence of others or lack of drive . Suspect its already been recognised as the only choice that is even close to both sides criteria too but it Would cost so the decision would have to come from the defy top , he was one of the worlds top ten paid managers at West Ham .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 12:15:03 GMT
Absolutely spot on. We're not the first and absolutely will not be the last to be thumped by Pep's lot this season. Perspective is required. Quit with the excuses. That was gutless, embarrassing and downright shambolic. You could count on less than one hand the number of players who actually gave a shit. Ramadan was a special kind of wank, I have no words for Jese, Fletcher and wimmer whilst Tom Edwards...just Christ. Is there a worse debut in the history of football? Steve Bould's comes to mind...
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 16, 2017 12:17:19 GMT
You're saying we should get Pulis - who is dying to go back here. Eh? I'd rather have Chris Kamara back than him.
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Post by jezzascfc on Oct 16, 2017 12:21:50 GMT
I believe Allardyce would produce a defensively more solid team than Hughes is managing to do. He is not a man for the future at his age, though, and would only be a firefighter brought in to stave off any thoughts of relegation, if we found ourselves in the bottom three by Christmas. That would at least give us time to look around to find a younger man to follow him.
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Post by thebet365 on Oct 16, 2017 12:22:07 GMT
Only a start to the season like Palace was gonna cost Hughes his job, he's here until the end of the season. I do think this will be his last season though, you can't keep having expensive flops and not fall on your sword eventually.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 16, 2017 12:32:36 GMT
Quit with the excuses. That was gutless, embarrassing and downright shambolic. You could count on less than one hand the number of players who actually gave a shit. Ramadan was a special kind of wank, I have no words for Jese, Fletcher and wimmer whilst Tom Edwards...just Christ. Is there a worse debut in the history of football? Steve Bould's comes to mind... I'm not old enough to recall that one! A nightmare debut is perhaps a good thing. I can think of many a shit player who made superb debuts whilst many of the best players we've had in my lifetime, if I remember there debuts correctly, were far from impressive. Even Shawcross had a nightmare on his Premier League debut though granted he scored on his true debut.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 16, 2017 12:40:31 GMT
Is this stat true or is it a 'joke' I'm not getting?
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Oct 16, 2017 12:46:48 GMT
Is this stat true or is it a 'joke' I'm not getting? not according to this www.whoscored.com/Matches/1190271/LiveStatistics/England-Premier-League-2017-2018-Manchester-City-Stoke (no idea how accurate that is though). More than double of any of our outfield players though if that link is accurate. Having said that, from what i remember pretty much every one of his passes was to a player literally about 2 yards away who'd then give it straight back to him, he'd turn and play it to a different player about 2 yards away (repeat to fade). They were pretty much just playing keep ball when he came on
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 12:50:53 GMT
Ah the old "who would you bring in" bollocks is rearing its head again. Why should a supporter have to name names of managers who the club could replace Hughes with? I'm pretty sure that like me, there are a shit load of fans who don't follow all the other leagues around the world or even follow other leagues in this country, but employees of our football club should be doing this not only for players but also for potential managers just in case the situation at the club changes. I'd never heard of a shed load of these successful foreign managers before they got jobs in this country, so nobody can tell me that there aren't managers out there who could do a better job than what Hughes is currently doing. Ah the old 'why should a supporter name names..' bollocks. You're qualified enough to tell us exactly what is going wrong but can't come up with a simple name or two who would improve things. And who are the shed load of successful foreign managers? Who's said I'm qualified enough to know exactly what's going wrong? I certainly haven't claimed that I have all the inside knowledge as to why we are failing to function as a team on far too many occasions. All I do know is what I see with my own eyes, and far too often over the last two seasons I've seen a massively under achieving football team which our manager has put together so he carries the can. There are managers out there who could do a better job than what Hughes is doing because he is underperforming. Look at Huddersfield as an example and now Wolves have gone down the route of employing a coach I'd never heard of as well and he is doing well there, early days I know but he's had a positive impact. Then there's Marco Silva who looks to be doing a cracking job at Watford, while they're bringing in players like Richarlison we're pissing about with crocks like Jese. There's 3 examples just off the top of my head and I'm pretty sure you don't want me to name every single foreign manager who has had success over here during the last 20 odd years, and even if you do I neither have the time or care enough to do so.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 12:53:20 GMT
Ah the old "who would you bring in" bollocks is rearing its head again. Why should a supporter have to name names of managers who the club could replace Hughes with? I'm pretty sure that like me, there are a shit load of fans who don't follow all the other leagues around the world or even follow other leagues in this country, but employees of our football club should be doing this not only for players but also for potential managers just in case the situation at the club changes. I'd never heard of a shed load of these successful foreign managers before they got jobs in this country, so nobody can tell me that there aren't managers out there who could do a better job than what Hughes is currently doing. Nobody should *have* to name names of any replacement but it looks a bit empty if you just stand there crying for the manager to go and not at least have an idea of the type of football you'd like to see or the kind of manager that plays it. It gives football fans a worse name. I'm not crying mate. In my opinion we need a change of manager because we are going nowhere under Hughes apart from backwards. It's not my job to scout potential managers and if it was I'd scout the leagues all over the world and then get back to you with some names
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Post by milky on Oct 16, 2017 12:58:14 GMT
Ah the old 'why should a supporter name names..' bollocks. You're qualified enough to tell us exactly what is going wrong but can't come up with a simple name or two who would improve things. And who are the shed load of successful foreign managers? Who's said I'm qualified enough to know exactly what's going wrong? I certainly haven't claimed that I have all the inside knowledge as to why we are failing to function as a team on far too many occasions. All I do know is what I see with my own eyes, and far too often over the last two seasons I've seen a massively under achieving football team which our manager has put together so he carries the can. There are managers out there who could do a better job than what Hughes is doing because he is underperforming. Look at Huddersfield as an example and now Wolves have gone down the route of employing a coach I'd never heard of as well and he is doing well there, early days I know but he's had a positive impact. Then there's Marco Silva who looks to be doing a cracking job at Watford, while they're bringing in players like Richarlison we're pissing about with crocks like Jese. There's 3 examples just off the top of my head and I'm pretty sure you don't want me to name every single foreign manager who has had success over here during the last 20 odd years, and even if you do I neither have the time or care enough to do so. I'm sure there must be..but you know as well as anyone that Coates won't go down that road. And for every Wagner there is a Felix McGrath or Pepe Mel (sp)...
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Oct 16, 2017 13:06:03 GMT
I want Gary Neville. Have done for a while.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 13:11:14 GMT
Nobody should *have* to name names of any replacement but it looks a bit empty if you just stand there crying for the manager to go and not at least have an idea of the type of football you'd like to see or the kind of manager that plays it. It gives football fans a worse name. I'm not crying mate. In my opinion we need a change of manager because we are going nowhere under Hughes apart from backwards. It's not my job to scout potential managers and if it was I'd scout the leagues all over the world and then get back to you with some names
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 16, 2017 14:08:01 GMT
Ah the old 'why should a supporter name names..' bollocks. You're qualified enough to tell us exactly what is going wrong but can't come up with a simple name or two who would improve things. And who are the shed load of successful foreign managers? Who's said I'm qualified enough to know exactly what's going wrong? I certainly haven't claimed that I have all the inside knowledge as to why we are failing to function as a team on far too many occasions. All I do know is what I see with my own eyes, and far too often over the last two seasons I've seen a massively under achieving football team which our manager has put together so he carries the can. There are managers out there who could do a better job than what Hughes is doing because he is underperforming. Look at Huddersfield as an example and now Wolves have gone down the route of employing a coach I'd never heard of as well and he is doing well there, early days I know but he's had a positive impact. Then there's Marco Silva who looks to be doing a cracking job at Watford, while they're bringing in players like Richarlison we're pissing about with crocks like Jese. There's 3 examples just off the top of my head and I'm pretty sure you don't want me to name every single foreign manager who has had success over here during the last 20 odd years, and even if you do I neither have the time or care enough to do so. Lol, bollocks.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 16, 2017 14:16:24 GMT
I want Gary Neville. Have done for a while. Brother Phil as assistant? Might as well go the whole hog in our mancunian dream team experiment right?!
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Oct 16, 2017 14:18:54 GMT
I want Gary Neville. Have done for a while. Brother Phil as assistant? Might as well go the whole hog in our mancunian dream team experiment right?! That'd be up to Gary. But I'm 100% serious when I say I want Gary Neville in charge.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 16, 2017 14:20:20 GMT
Brother Phil as assistant? Might as well go the whole hog in our mancunian dream team experiment right?! That'd be up to Gary. But I'm 100% serious when I say I want Gary Neville in charge. Why him particularly? I'm intrigued.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Oct 16, 2017 14:25:16 GMT
I think they have to get to the point of making a decision one way or the other which I guess will be early December ish and then test the market if they think its time for a change .
I suspect if they think he will keep us up they will leave it and see how the season goes and if its as dull as last season terminate him in May
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 16, 2017 14:27:36 GMT
That'd be up to Gary. But I'm 100% serious when I say I want Gary Neville in charge. Why him particularly? I'm intrigued. Ask Tony for the inside info at tonight's yoga class.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Oct 16, 2017 14:28:15 GMT
That'd be up to Gary. But I'm 100% serious when I say I want Gary Neville in charge. Why him particularly? I'm intrigued. He's young. Played under one of the best managers. Experience at a top European club. I like how he analyzes games. I think he'd have great support. I think we're a club where he can succeed similar to how other young managers came and made an impression in the Premier League.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 16, 2017 14:29:07 GMT
Why him particularly? I'm intrigued. He's young. Played under one of the best managers. Experience at a top European club. I like how he analyzes games. I think he'd have great support. I think we're a club where he can succeed similar to how other young managers came and made an impression in the Premier League. Think he might well make a good manager one day but it’d be one hell of a gamble.
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Post by flea79 on Oct 16, 2017 14:31:11 GMT
I think they have to get to the point of making a decision one way or the other which I guess will be early December ish and then test the market if they think its time for a change . I suspect if they think he will keep us up they will leave it and see how the season goes and if its as dull as last season terminate him in May I imagine people are being sounded out as we speak and if a change needs to be made it will be done end of November, gives an incoming manager a month with plenty of games to assess what he has to work with and what is needed to strengthen us, although Stevie Wonder could manage to see our issues currently. I hope it doesn't come to that I like our stability and we are not a hire em fire em club
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 16, 2017 14:33:02 GMT
Why him particularly? I'm intrigued. Ask Tony for the inside info at tonight's yoga class. Me and Tony aren't as close as we once were. For example, he only rings me 15 times a day now when it used to be 50. Hopefully I can turn the relationship around before January so I can give everyone my transfer news.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Oct 16, 2017 14:33:31 GMT
He's young. Played under one of the best managers. Experience at a top European club. I like how he analyzes games. I think he'd have great support. I think we're a club where he can succeed similar to how other young managers came and made an impression in the Premier League. Think he might well make a good manager one day but it’d be one hell of a gamble. I think it's worth it.
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