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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 10:04:08 GMT
Most of those wanting Hughes out are quietning down this morning, realising the list of possible options is, well scary. I'm open to whatever is best for the club. Some are plucking out names without even thinking beyond about 3 months. Rowett? Can you imagine someone like him trying to attract the players we would like? The only bright spot at the moment is hoping for a bit of magic from shakiri, or jese etc. Would rowett have attracted them? Me personally, I'd demand a defensive coach brought in to drill the back line on their own. Run the fuckers into the ground until they're like a well oiled machine. A Tony Adams, tery butcher or whoever defensive coach. When Fergie was at man utd for 26 years he always changed one of his coaching staff every 3 or so years to keep it fresh. For this season if I was Coates, I'd insist on it. Let the others get on with the rest of the team. A solid base and you've got a chance. At the moment we're too easy to cut open. So far attracting the kind of players we would like is falling flat on its arse isn't it? What exactly are the kind of players we would like to attract anyway? Surely not the Bojans,Muniesas,Joselu's,Imbula's,Wollscheids,Berahinos,Winners etc of this world?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 10:05:47 GMT
At that point, why would he need us? Sorry I’m not following? It'd be a sideways move at that point, essentially.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 22, 2017 10:06:15 GMT
Behave. The new manager will be a success if he keeps us up with the rabble that the present encumbant has assembled. They aren't a rabble though. The new manager actually has a lot to work with. The squad is extremely unbalanced Joe, I think it will be a tough task for whoever takes over.
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Post by scfc5 on Oct 22, 2017 10:07:05 GMT
Behave. The new manager will be a success if he keeps us up with the rabble that the present encumbant has assembled. They aren't a rabble though. The new manager actually has a lot to work with. Not in certain areas. Lots of talent at the back but no full-backs or wing-backs worthy of playing. No competition for Fletcher and Allen - neither want to carry the ball forward, which is our biggest problem right now. Jesé I can’t fathom, Choupo who has 1 good game in 4 by the look of it and a collection of strikers I question. I struggle to see how we’ll score enough.
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Post by mozzer on Oct 22, 2017 10:07:51 GMT
I can not believe that people are happy to carry on because as supporters we are unable to come up with a better name to carry the club forward, during the transfer window a thousand names a day are put on this board yet does that make any difference to the running of our transfer team, does it fuck. Wait another week and we can probably have Shrek faced Koeman You can keep Koeman - his attitude behind the scenes is questionable and Southampton were delighted he moved on according to insiders. He has also presided over a Hughes-esque monumental mess up in the transfer market at Everton, making them one-dimensional and slow - but he had the budget to do what he wanted, more so than Hughes. How I see it this morning is that anyone that can get us out of the position that we are in with the shower of shit at their disposal will be a success this season.....even if it is Hughes because this team is going in one direction only at the moment.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 22, 2017 10:10:42 GMT
Behave. The new manager will be a success if he keeps us up with the rabble that the present encumbant has assembled. They aren't a rabble though. The new manager actually has a lot to work with. There are some good players, in theory enough of them to keep us out of the bottom three but its woefully unbalanced. Even Sam would have a job coming up with a system for this lot. If Hughes goes, whoever comes in will be demanding four players in the January window, which will come with the usual January premium. I can almost hear Denise choking on her cornflakes.
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Post by Bowyer83 on Oct 22, 2017 10:10:49 GMT
Ancelotti dream territory obviously.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 22, 2017 10:16:45 GMT
They aren't a rabble though. The new manager actually has a lot to work with. There are some good players, in theory enough of them to keep us out of the bottom three but its woefully unbalanced. Even Sam would have a job coming up with a system for this lot. If Hughes goes, whoever comes in will be demanding four players in the January window, which will come with the usual January premium. I can almost hear Denise choking on her cornflakes. I don't think it's purely who we have in the squad it's the fact they look under prepared, unfit and without any plan. We need a tactical coach not a manager. Like a modern day Don Howe.
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Post by chayzenbacon on Oct 22, 2017 10:18:23 GMT
Should have gone for silva when we had the chance. Could we tempt clement? Ditto Benitez? I’d take Rowett however I think it’s 1/2 years too early, if he gets derby up and stays for the year he’d be an option. At that point, why would he need us? Especially as we would be a Championship club by then.
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Post by potter25 on Oct 22, 2017 10:27:13 GMT
Sam for me sort this mess out and then an up and coming manager in the summer to start over again
Crystal Palace last season without De Boer to follow if you get my drift..
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Oct 22, 2017 10:28:35 GMT
I like the Fulham manager Jokanovic decent track record knows lots of players gives youngsters a chance .
Never an easy choice but he seems one in the right mould .
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Post by pottermissy on Oct 22, 2017 10:37:24 GMT
They aren't a rabble though. The new manager actually has a lot to work with. There are some good players, in theory enough of them to keep us out of the bottom three but its woefully unbalanced. Even Sam would have a job coming up with a system for this lot. If Hughes goes, whoever comes in will be demanding four players in the January window, which will come with the usual January premium. I can almost hear Denise choking on her cornflakes. She'd probably choke on her cornflakes more if we go down!
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Post by chayzenbacon on Oct 22, 2017 10:42:48 GMT
We're in a mess with no organisation and no motivation so Sam Allardyce is the type of manager we need to turn to at this point. It's not all good though as he would bring that odious little scrote Sammy Lee with him. Or would we learn to love him if he became our odious little scrote?
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Post by wazbagsbro on Oct 22, 2017 10:45:30 GMT
Yapp Stamm is building something good at Reading, Respected ,tough , plays attacking football ,a maybe?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 22, 2017 10:53:51 GMT
Yapp Stamm is building something good at Reading, Respected ,tough , plays attacking football ,a maybe? There's a feeling that he was pretty lucky last year and has been found out this year. They're 2 points outside of the relegation zone and a fair few Reading fans wouldn't be sad to see him go. I would hope we could attract better or managers with a deeper CV than him to be honest.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 22, 2017 11:20:18 GMT
They aren't a rabble though. The new manager actually has a lot to work with. There are some good players, in theory enough of them to keep us out of the bottom three but its woefully unbalanced. Even Sam would have a job coming up with a system for this lot. If Hughes goes, whoever comes in will be demanding four players in the January window, which will come with the usual January premium. I can almost hear Denise choking on her cornflakes. I agree, but we have needed four players for about 2 years, and Hughes and Co have failed to find them. Giving Hughes longer to completely bollocks the squad is not the answer, either. What a colossal fuck up.
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Post by thevoid on Oct 22, 2017 12:48:58 GMT
If Hughes were to go to would be big fat Sam who would be the first choice replacement. If he wouldn't come, genuinely, I could see he who cannot be mentioned coming back for a third stint at the helm. Putris will not be coming back here especially after his antics as a visiting manager here, so get that idea out of your head. Would rather keep Hughes, get relegated and rebuild the club in the Championship than have that twat back.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 12:52:37 GMT
If Hughes were to go to would be big fat Sam who would be the first choice replacement. If he wouldn't come, genuinely, I could see he who cannot be mentioned coming back for a third stint at the helm. Putris will not be coming back here especially after his antics as a visiting manager here, so get that idea out of your head. Would rather keep Hughes, get relegated and rebuild the club in the Championship than have that twat back. But does Coates see Toxic as his default "get out of jail" manager ?
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Post by toppercorner on Oct 22, 2017 13:05:09 GMT
interesting and realistic options?? Christophe Galtier Big Sam Domenico Tedesco Massimo Carrera Ralph Hasenhuttl
unrealistic options (but i would take in a heartbeat) Ancelotti Tuchel Mancini Rui Vitória Blanc Rafa Eduardo Berizzo
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Post by serpico on Oct 22, 2017 13:21:15 GMT
Forget foreign based managers, Coates just isn't going to go there, so once you narrow it down to British only then you'd have to say Allardyce is the best we could hope for, Moyes probably a close 2nd but i think his brand has been damaged too much the last few years. Allardyce would suit the club and current crop of players down to the ground, right now what we need most is a manager who can organise a defence, we're leaking way too many needless goals!
the more i think about it, the more i am warming to the idea of Allardyce, it makes sense.
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Post by Theninjabadger on Oct 22, 2017 13:25:19 GMT
interesting and realistic options?? Christophe Galtier Big Sam Domenico Tedesco Massimo Carrera Ralph Hasenhuttl unrealistic options (but i would take in a heartbeat) Ancelotti Tuchel Mancini Rui Vitória Blanc Rafa Eduardo Berizzo Money talks is what we always hear. We’re owned by one of the richest families in the country. We’re never going be self sufficient in the championship. Empty the fucking piggy bank and go and get Rodgers or Rafa Coatesy before you ruin what you created
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 13:35:16 GMT
Of course all of these managers speak to each other, and I would imagine that if there are huge budget restraints at Stoke word would have got round, so you can certainly eliminate any idea of the likes of Benitez being lured away from Newcastle, especially as the club is up for sale, and new owners will probably come with quite a big transfer kitty.... Personally I think we may well end up with someone like Neville, but as others have said, we are likely to be well down the wish list of any decent manager, with the vacancy at Leicester, and soon to be West Ham and maybe Everton...
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Post by banksisgod on Oct 22, 2017 13:59:18 GMT
Pissed off as he will be with recent results and performances, PC is not a sacking chairman, and Hughes is unlikely to be in an immediate danger. However, if it came to pass, dare I suggest that Rodgers would be ideal. He has a brilliant record, and is highly regarded as a coach by players who have played for him. There really is nowhere for him to go with Celtic; anything less than champions in Scotland is failure, yet they are not competitive in Europe, and have no TV money coming in. It's a hiding to nothing.
It really looks like the current squad have stopped playing for MH. Also, it would appear that his judgement is seriously suspect, if Berahino, Imbula and Wimmer are anything to go by. Rodgers appears to have no difficulty keeping his squad motivated, which must be tough in a one-team league.
He's the solution.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Oct 22, 2017 14:07:24 GMT
Pissed off as he will be with recent results and performances, PC is not a sacking chairman, and Hughes is unlikely to be in an immediate danger. However, if it came to pass, dare I suggest that Rodgers would be ideal. He has a brilliant record, and is highly regarded as a coach by players who have played for him. There really is nowhere for him to go with Celtic; anything less than champions in Scotland is failure, yet they are not competitive in Europe, and have no TV money coming in. It's a hiding to nothing. It really looks like the current squad have stopped playing for MH. Also, it would appear that his judgement is seriously suspect, if Berahino, Imbula and Wimmer are anything to go by. Rodgers appears to have no difficulty keeping his squad motivated, which must be tough in a one-team league. He's the solution. My missus could manage Celtic to a title win. Rodgers is on £45,000 a week and has an easy job, do you think Stoke would pay that? Do you think he would come to Stoke?? I certainly dont.
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Post by hanibal7 on Oct 22, 2017 14:15:24 GMT
Of course all of these managers speak to each other, and I would imagine that if there are huge budget restraints at Stoke word would have got round, so you can certainly eliminate any idea of the likes of Benitez being lured away from Newcastle, especially as the club is up for sale, and new owners will probably come with quite a big transfer kitty.... Personally I think we may well end up with someone like Neville, but as others have said, we are likely to be well down the wish list of any decent manager, with the vacancy at Leicester, and soon to be West Ham and maybe Everton... Neville has said he would never manage again. Not seen any mention of Swansea manager
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 14:23:30 GMT
What about that fella who was at Spuds now in China?
Villa-Boas?
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Post by toppercorner on Oct 22, 2017 14:32:30 GMT
What about that feel at Suds now in China? Villa-Boas? Allegedly on £11m a year after tax. Where do you go after that cash? Certainly not stoke.
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Post by clarkeda on Oct 22, 2017 14:51:12 GMT
It'd be a sideways move at that point, essentially. On about rowett?
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Post by salopstick on Oct 22, 2017 14:53:04 GMT
When Burnley went down they used the money to strengthen and improve their infrastructure. They soon went up again under dyche
When they got relegated they stuck with the manager, strengthened and come back up. And stayed up.
They have every chance of establishing themselves as a prem club for a few more years.
Burnley wouldn’t sack dyche and I don’t think he would walk out on them for Leicester or Stoke.
Wagner would t leave Huddersfield for stoke. Neither would rafa Don’t want pardew Big Sam is not long term
So realistic there isn’t a cast of proven prem managers to choose from.
So Hughes stays for now.
If we don’t show some improvements we will need the short termism of big sam
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 22, 2017 14:53:12 GMT
I'd take Koeman in a heartbeat......
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