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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 22, 2017 9:25:15 GMT
I'm surprised No one has said Brendan Rodgers. His record is better than most I did think about him tbh but there's no chance he'd come to us, he's got it easy now.
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Post by huuuuuth on Oct 22, 2017 9:26:17 GMT
If Hughes were to go to would be big fat Sam who would be the first choice replacement. If he wouldn't come, genuinely, I could see he who cannot be mentioned coming back for a third stint at the helm. I had the same thought. If we are in trouble around Christmas, would he be getting a call?
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Post by spoton on Oct 22, 2017 9:26:26 GMT
Steve Holland
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Post by samblano on Oct 22, 2017 9:26:59 GMT
RAFA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 22, 2017 9:27:39 GMT
I don’t think it’s quite that simple Geoff. He’d just need to keep the team up and show signs of improvement over the dross we’ve been serving up for ages. At least during the initial honeymoon period. I’d thought Hughes himself was showing signs of that but recently we’ve reverted to the very worst of last season’s mess. Think I’d give him the next month of winnable games but if he loses those his position will surely be close to untenable. He would have to better 9th, performances always come second to results. Not immediately he wouldn’t. It doesn’t work like that. He’d be tasked with improving things from a baseline of how things are currently, not what they’ve been like at their best.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 9:28:38 GMT
Homer Simpson would be a better alternative at present Even Moyes, yes Moyes Pardew - loathsome cunt of a bloke but even he would improve things Who are we now? We don't know if we're Arthur or Martha No identity No direction No idea No soul Like fucking zombies casually drifting towards relegation Hughes has lost me now If he won the fa cup and the league I still wouldn't rate him We need an overhaul, a complete rebuild If we were a car we wouldn't pass the mot Rip it up and start again Moyes!! The more people are trying come up with names, the more quieter it's getting on here. There really is little option other than a gamble. Read my post above. Agreed I'm struggling for alternatives but surely anyone is better? Fat Sam - would he come to us? Pellegrini would be massive but same as above Mancini - sorry we're too small Rafa - ditto and he's going to get a mega war chest soon if the Chinese take over There that's it I'm exhausted It's like being married to a paedophile but all the other blokes out there are wife beaters, drunks, druggies, womanisers and inveterate wastrels or simply just far too good for us
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Post by lordb on Oct 22, 2017 9:30:01 GMT
Rafa,Rodgers,Tuchel
None of these would be remotely interested
Up and coming manager from the Championship or a manager from abroad absolutely won't happen.
Coates will want a Premier League experienced manager, preferably British.
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Post by sportsman on Oct 22, 2017 9:30:03 GMT
Most of those wanting Hughes out are quietning down this morning, realising the list of possible options is, well scary. I'm open to whatever is best for the club. Some are plucking out names without even thinking beyond about 3 months. Rowett? Can you imagine someone like him trying to attract the players we would like? The only bright spot at the moment is hoping for a bit of magic from shakiri, or jese etc. Would rowett have attracted them? Me personally, I'd demand a defensive coach brought in to drill the back line on their own. Run the fuckers into the ground until they're like a well oiled machine. A Tony Adams, tery butcher or whoever defensive coach. When Fergie was at man utd for 26 years he always changed one of his coaching staff every 3 or so years to keep it fresh. For this season if I was Coates, I'd insist on it. Let the others get on with the rest of the team. A solid base and you've got a chance. At the moment we're too easy to cut open. Freshening up the coaching is a good idea, Pulis did it. Can't see Hughes doing it. For me it's the only way. If it was good enough for Fergie every 3 years then it's good enough for us. It means Hughes swallowing his pride, but for me it would be a show of doing the right thing. When I look at zouma, Ryan, BMI, a defensive coach should love drilling the fuck out of them. Hughes has it in him to produce good stuff going forward over the years, but the more you conceded the worse going forward you are as confidence just goes. We have to sort the defense. Defensive specialist coach brought in.
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Post by sportsman on Oct 22, 2017 9:30:47 GMT
About to get 500m transfer kitty. Yeh right.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Oct 22, 2017 9:31:51 GMT
One excuse trotted out not to replace the clearly clueless and casual Hughes, is that there are no replacements available, So here’s a shortlist to start with. Feel free to add others: Giggs Rowett Pardew Allardyce Tuchel Laudrup Moyes Coleman Mazzarri Blanc Shearer Shakespeare Phelan Crooks although as others have pointed out, maybe Adam could step up? Why do they have to be out of work?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 22, 2017 9:32:33 GMT
Freshening up the coaching is a good idea, Pulis did it. Can't see Hughes doing it. For me it's the only way. If it was good enough for Fergie every 3 years then it's good enough for us. It means Hughes swallowing his pride, but for me it would be a show of doing the right thing. When I look at zouma, Ryan, BMI, a defensive coach should love drilling the fuck out of them. Hughes has it in him to produce good stuff going forward over the years, but the more you conceded the worse going forward you are as confidence just goes. We have to sort the defense. Defensive specialist coach brought in. How about Buddy Ryan? Worked for the Chicago Bears.:0)
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Post by geoff321 on Oct 22, 2017 9:34:48 GMT
He would have to better 9th, performances always come second to results. Not immediately he wouldn’t. It doesn’t work like that. He’d be tasked with improving things from a baseline of how things are currently, not what they’ve been like at their best. Unless Stoke up their spending on new players I don't think any new manager will better 9th, nor do I think many managers of note would want the job, talk of the likes of Benitez is absurd.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 22, 2017 9:34:55 GMT
One excuse trotted out not to replace the clearly clueless and casual Hughes, is that there are no replacements available, So here’s a shortlist to start with. Feel free to add others: Giggs Rowett Pardew Allardyce Tuchel Laudrup Moyes Coleman Mazzarri Blanc Shearer Shakespeare Phelan Crooks although as others have pointed out, maybe Adam could step up? Why do they have to be out of work? I agree just means we'd have to pay compensation which on the grand scale of things is peanuts compared to what we've spent on players. There's some good managers in the Championship worth a look at both foreign and Brtish.
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Post by superheroantonius on Oct 22, 2017 9:35:28 GMT
Most of those wanting Hughes out are quietning down this morning, realising the list of possible options is, well scary. I'm open to whatever is best for the club. Some are plucking out names without even thinking beyond about 3 months. Rowett? Can you imagine someone like him trying to attract the players we would like? The only bright spot at the moment is hoping for a bit of magic from shakiri, or jese etc. Would rowett have attracted them? Me personally, I'd demand a defensive coach brought in to drill the back line on their own. Run the fuckers into the ground until they're like a well oiled machine. A Tony Adams, tery butcher or whoever defensive coach. When Fergie was at man utd for 26 years he always changed one of his coaching staff every 3 or so years to keep it fresh. For this season if I was Coates, I'd insist on it. Let the others get on with the rest of the team. A solid base and you've got a chance. At the moment we're too easy to cut open. You are totally right about Fergie changing his coaches regularly ... very good point But the Hughes out voices have never been louder ... anyone who won't tolerate heads dropped , negative body language and not getting your finger out and comming out to play until you have gone two nil down , is looking like a hughes upgrade this morning. He can go . Dysche , Wagner or Wilder would be brilliant . Rowett would be okay and might do very well .
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Post by ParaPsych on Oct 22, 2017 9:39:31 GMT
Graham Potter
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Post by Alvechurch Assassin on Oct 22, 2017 9:41:51 GMT
A club like Stoke in this league needs a great coach, or team of coaches, to get the very best out of the talent available. This is where Hughes, Bowen, Niedzwikidodar etc have really fucked up. No one seems to progress here anymore.
However, it’s ‘get us out if the shit’ time, so if Big Sam is up for it, we should get him in ASAP.
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Post by sportsman on Oct 22, 2017 9:43:35 GMT
Most of those wanting Hughes out are quietning down this morning, realising the list of possible options is, well scary. I'm open to whatever is best for the club. Some are plucking out names without even thinking beyond about 3 months. Rowett? Can you imagine someone like him trying to attract the players we would like? The only bright spot at the moment is hoping for a bit of magic from shakiri, or jese etc. Would rowett have attracted them? Me personally, I'd demand a defensive coach brought in to drill the back line on their own. Run the fuckers into the ground until they're like a well oiled machine. A Tony Adams, tery butcher or whoever defensive coach. When Fergie was at man utd for 26 years he always changed one of his coaching staff every 3 or so years to keep it fresh. For this season if I was Coates, I'd insist on it. Let the others get on with the rest of the team. A solid base and you've got a chance. At the moment we're too easy to cut open. You are totally right about Fergie changing his coaches regularly ... very good point But the Hughes out voices have never been louder ... anyone who won't tolerate heads dropped , negative body language and not getting your finger out and comming out to play until you have gone two nil down , is looking like a hughes upgrade this morning. He can go . Dysche , Wagner or Wilder would be brilliant . Rowett would be okay and might do very well . Regarding dyche and rowett read my post above. That's my concern.
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Post by thisfootballclub on Oct 22, 2017 9:46:02 GMT
A club like Stoke in this league needs a great coach, or team of coaches, to get the very best out of the talent available. This is where Hughes, Bowen, Niedzwikidodar etc have really fucked up. No one seems to progress here anymore. However, it’s ‘get us out if the shit’ time, so if Big Sam is up for it, we should get him in ASAP. Correct, let's not forget if Hughes leaves then so does the backroom. A new man and a team of coaches would freshen the place up and bring new ideas as the current setup is clearly not the answer.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 22, 2017 9:49:15 GMT
A club like Stoke in this league needs a great coach, or team of coaches, to get the very best out of the talent available. This is where Hughes, Bowen, Niedzwikidodar etc have really fucked up. No one seems to progress here anymore. However, it’s ‘get us out if the shit’ time, so if Big Sam is up for it, we should get him in ASAP. Correct, let's not forget if Hughes leaves then so does the backroom. A new man and a team of coaches would freshen the place up and bring new ideas as the current setup is clearly not the answer. Absolutely Big Sam is the only way and no hesitation had to be here for Leicester as at palace and Sunderland , things often get worse before they get better
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Post by geoff321 on Oct 22, 2017 9:49:55 GMT
Some people are calling for Dyche, in the year he took Burnley down didn't they score just 28 goals in 38 games?
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Post by marcofstoke on Oct 22, 2017 9:50:03 GMT
I'm just staggered that in response to Nigel Johnson's question of "are results affecting confidence" Hughes replies "what results? We won our last home game against Southampton" completely ignoring the fact that we have lost five out six including the defeat at Bristol City!
We can't afford to take a managerial gamble so with that in mind Big Sam is a safe pair of hands and would almost certainly guide us well away from the relegation zone.
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Post by superheroantonius on Oct 22, 2017 9:50:47 GMT
You are totally right about Fergie changing his coaches regularly ... very good point But the Hughes out voices have never been louder ... anyone who won't tolerate heads dropped , negative body language and not getting your finger out and comming out to play until you have gone two nil down , is looking like a hughes upgrade this morning. He can go . Dysche , Wagner or Wilder would be brilliant . Rowett would be okay and might do very well . Regarding dyche and rowett read my post above. That's my concern. I understand where you're coming from .... But I like dysche Wagner Wilder and rowett because they know there way round the championship !!!!!
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 22, 2017 9:53:26 GMT
I don't give a shit how bad the list of possible candidates supposedly is , Hughes isn't getting the best out of this unbalanced squad he and our hopeless transfer team have cobbled together.
Right now I would take Rodgers, Dyche, Allardyce, Coleman or Monk.
It's got that bad I'd consider Tim Sherwood!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 22, 2017 9:53:40 GMT
Not immediately he wouldn’t. It doesn’t work like that. He’d be tasked with improving things from a baseline of how things are currently, not what they’ve been like at their best. Unless Stoke up their spending on new players I don't think any new manager will better 9th, nor do I think many managers of note would want the job, talk of the likes of Benitez is absurd. Talk of Benitez is absurd yes. I think a stable Premier League club would be an attractive proposition to a number of up and coming managers around the world. Again, in the short-term it’s not about 9th. It’s about addressing the numerous self-inflicted wounds throughout the footballing side of things. I was encouraged by our start to the season but all of those positives have evaporated and we’ve regressed to last season - the drubbings. The lack of organisation. The ponderous forward play. Add in the notion that when the manager is given money to spend he gets it hopelessly wrong, and his failure to bring in the players key to making his new system work, and as much as I like him as a bloke and think he’s been a thoroughly decent manager here overall, it’s increasingly hard to defend him.
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 22, 2017 9:54:46 GMT
Could Steve Bould do it? I'm assuming he would have learnt from Arse NO!!
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Post by scfc5 on Oct 22, 2017 9:55:59 GMT
The new manager would have to better 9th, I don't think many top managers would fancy that with Stoke. No, the new manager would have to dig us out of the current hole, the existing manager having weakened the squad considerably from that which he used to achieve 9th. There is no way on this planet Hughes is taking us to 9th with what he has assembled. If you think he is, I’d love to hear why.
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Post by mozzer on Oct 22, 2017 9:57:39 GMT
I can not believe that people are happy to carry on because as supporters we are unable to come up with a better name to carry the club forward, during the transfer window a thousand names a day are put on this board yet does that make any difference to the running of our transfer team, does it fuck.
Wait another week and we can probably have Shrek faced Koeman
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 22, 2017 10:01:43 GMT
The new manager would have to better 9th, I don't think many top managers would fancy that with Stoke. Behave. The new manager will be a success if he keeps us up with the rabble that the present encumbant has assembled.
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Post by scfc5 on Oct 22, 2017 10:03:00 GMT
I can not believe that people are happy to carry on because as supporters we are unable to come up with a better name to carry the club forward, during the transfer window a thousand names a day are put on this board yet does that make any difference to the running of our transfer team, does it fuck. Wait another week and we can probably have Shrek faced Koeman You can keep Koeman - his attitude behind the scenes is questionable and Southampton were delighted he moved on according to insiders. He has also presided over a Hughes-esque monumental mess up in the transfer market at Everton, making them one-dimensional and slow - but he had the budget to do what he wanted, more so than Hughes.
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 22, 2017 10:03:46 GMT
The new manager would have to better 9th, I don't think many top managers would fancy that with Stoke. Behave. The new manager will be a success if he keeps us up with the rabble that the present encumbant has assembled. They aren't a rabble though. The new manager actually has a lot to work with.
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