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Post by Jimm on Aug 15, 2017 21:45:15 GMT
Bony will score 10+ for them if he signs, and probably 10 more than Berahino will manage
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 15, 2017 21:46:48 GMT
Prefer Glenn ? Or some other strong plodder. I wanted all of our central midfielders sold. Allen is a headless chicken, a Dean Whitehead who can pass but only sideways.
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Post by themistocles on Aug 15, 2017 21:48:13 GMT
25mill for Allen- Add 10 mill you've got the price tag for William's carvahol.
Pay him 5 mill up front and keep him in our wage structure 80k ish.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 21:49:36 GMT
Prefer Glenn ? Or some other strong plodder. I wanted all of our central midfielders sold. Allen is a headless chicken, a Dean Whitehead who can pass but only sideways. Mmm dunna remember Dean scoring many but hey he could run. I really think you are doing a disservice to Allen he's not shit.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 15, 2017 21:51:40 GMT
I wanted all of our central midfielders sold. Allen is a headless chicken, a Dean Whitehead who can pass but only sideways. Mmm dunna remember Dean scoring many but hey he could run. I really think you are doing a disservice to Allen he's not shit. He really is. He's surprised with how bad he actually is tbh. I thought he was quite an intelligent footballer but he just isn't. 25m+ is robbery.
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Post by kustokie on Aug 15, 2017 21:54:18 GMT
We're absolutely barmy to turn down 25m+ for him. I can't believe we'd do it even. With 10 days left in the transfer window, we'd be barmy to sell him now. 50 million in the bank won't be much use if we have to wait until Christmas to spend it. By then we'd likely be 5-10 points adrift and very unattractive for a new player. The time now is to consolidate what we have.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 21:54:57 GMT
Mmm dunna remember Dean scoring many but hey he could run. I really think you are doing a disservice to Allen he's not shit. He really is. He's surprised with how bad he actually is tbh. I thought he was quite an intelligent footballer but he just isn't. 25m+ is robbery. I dunno know what's gotten into you just lately your post are getting a bit bizarre. We must see different things but no matter.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Aug 15, 2017 21:55:23 GMT
I'm amazed dozens are screaming blue murder at our lack of quality in the squad but the first sniff and "sell him" absolutely bonkers on here. The internet really is NOT for everyone. Because he's a bit shit? He had a good game on the whole on saturday. 'Your number 4 is the standout', said me Everton mate. New season, maybe better disciplined with less need for him to be a '10'. Their goal being more about the left of our defence being vacated than joey. He's not shit. Think him and Fletch were good and it's a fresh 'partnership'. For stupid money I'd sell and go again though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 21:57:37 GMT
He had a good game on the whole on saturday. 'Your number 4 is the standout', said me Everton mate. New season, maybe better disciplined with less need for him to be a '10'. Their goal being more about the left of our defence being vacated than joey. He's not shit. Think him and Fletch were good and it's a fresh 'partnership'. For stupid money I'd sell and go again though. I thought he played really well, but there's not getting away from the fact that he fell asleep and didn't track Rooney's run for their goal......
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 15, 2017 21:58:03 GMT
He really is. He's surprised with how bad he actually is tbh. I thought he was quite an intelligent footballer but he just isn't. 25m+ is robbery. I dunno know what's gotten into you just lately your post are getting a bit bizarre. We must see different things but no matter. He's thick. Take last season. He'd be doing the high press with just him, whilst everyone else was 30 yards further back. He's like a dog chasing the ball. He's got no discipline to play deeper and doesn't link the play further up the pitch.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 22:00:35 GMT
I dunno know what's gotten into you just lately your post are getting a bit bizarre. We must see different things but no matter. He's thick. Take last season. He'd be doing the high press with just him, whilst everyone else was 30 yards further back. He's like a dog chasing the ball. He's got no discipline to play deeper and doesn't link the play further up the pitch. Maybe he's just trying too hard to compensate for the lack of support.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 15, 2017 22:04:46 GMT
He's thick. Take last season. He'd be doing the high press with just him, whilst everyone else was 30 yards further back. He's like a dog chasing the ball. He's got no discipline to play deeper and doesn't link the play further up the pitch. Maybe he's just trying too hard to compensate for the lack of support. Which is stupid. The press is a team exploit. If the team aren't doing it, there's no point in you doing it.
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Post by geekenny on Aug 15, 2017 22:07:45 GMT
I dunno know what's gotten into you just lately your post are getting a bit bizarre. We must see different things but no matter. He's thick. Take last season. He'd be doing the high press with just him, whilst everyone else was 30 yards further back. He's like a dog chasing the ball. He's got no discipline to play deeper and doesn't link the play further up the pitch. It's not what you think matey, it's what Sparky's thinking. And I reckon he thinks Joe and Fletcher are our fulcrum in midfield. We are one piece from a decent side. That's an attacking left wing back. Sparky is obviously throwing his hat into the three at the back method. Allen will be a big factor on that system.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 15, 2017 22:09:13 GMT
He's thick. Take last season. He'd be doing the high press with just him, whilst everyone else was 30 yards further back. He's like a dog chasing the ball. He's got no discipline to play deeper and doesn't link the play further up the pitch. It's not what you think matey, it's what Sparky's thinking. And I reckon he thinks Joe and Fletcher are our fulcrum in midfield. We are one piece from a decent side. That's an attacking left wing back. Sparky is obviously throwing his hat into the three at the back method. Allen will be a big factor on that system. I think Hughes should be sacked so it's horses for courses!
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 15, 2017 22:12:41 GMT
25m for Allen would be too good to turn down, but time is running out to find a replacement. If only the Illarramendi rumours were true.....
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Post by philb on Aug 15, 2017 22:17:28 GMT
I dunno know what's gotten into you just lately your post are getting a bit bizarre. We must see different things but no matter. He's thick. Take last season. He'd be doing the high press with just him, whilst everyone else was 30 yards further back. He's like a dog chasing the ball. He's got no discipline to play deeper and doesn't link the play further up the pitch. Has it ever occurred to you that the job he was doing he was asked to do by the manager? You clearly don't rate the player and that's fair enough but to call him 'thick' after a reasonably good season is just ridiculous.
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Post by geekenny on Aug 15, 2017 22:20:59 GMT
It's not what you think matey, it's what Sparky's thinking. And I reckon he thinks Joe and Fletcher are our fulcrum in midfield. We are one piece from a decent side. That's an attacking left wing back. Sparky is obviously throwing his hat into the three at the back method. Allen will be a big factor on that system. I think Hughes should be sacked so it's horses for courses! That's fair enough. Your personal opinions are what this message board are all about. I was trying to get into the manager's mindset. He certainly will not be sacked this season ... that's for sure. The signings of Zouma and BMI have guaranteed that.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 15, 2017 22:24:11 GMT
He's thick. Take last season. He'd be doing the high press with just him, whilst everyone else was 30 yards further back. He's like a dog chasing the ball. He's got no discipline to play deeper and doesn't link the play further up the pitch. Has it ever occurred to you that the job he was doing he was asked to do by the manager? You clearly don't rate the player and that's fair enough but to call him 'thick' after a reasonably good season is just ridiculous. To run around and leave a massive hole in the middle of the pitch? I should hope not. He was doing what he did for Liverpool and didn't seem to remember that we didn't have a team doing it. He had a decent 10 games then was poor. Those games were only decent because of the goals. His link up play ie a key job of the #10 was atrocious.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Aug 15, 2017 22:26:09 GMT
Why is this being discussed. The club have already made a statement.............Allen is not for sale. Which I think means he isn't for sale
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Post by philb on Aug 15, 2017 22:26:49 GMT
Has it ever occurred to you that the job he was doing he was asked to do by the manager? You clearly don't rate the player and that's fair enough but to call him 'thick' after a reasonably good season is just ridiculous. To run around and leave a massive hole in the middle of the pitch? I should hope not. He was doing what he did for Liverpool and didn't seem to remember that we didn't have a team doing it. He had a decent 10 games then was poor. Those games were only decent because of the goals. His link up play ie a key job of the #10 was atrocious. To be fair it's be hard to find any player from last season who had more than 10 decent games.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 15, 2017 22:27:23 GMT
I think Hughes should be sacked so it's horses for courses! That's fair enough. Your personal opinions are what this message board are all about. I was trying to get into the manager's mindset. He certainly will not be sacked this season ... that's for sure. The signings of Zouma and BMI have guaranteed that. Oh I'm not so sure. The pressure from the crowd if we start losing to Man Yoo after not getting a point could be quite something...... It's not too much of a stretch to see us not getting more than a point after 8 games. Then it becomes dicey! I just hope to God we fight against Arsenal and then kick Pulis' arse. I think that would lift spirits massively. The Arsenal home game last season was a meek surrender and that isn't acceptable again.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Aug 15, 2017 22:27:50 GMT
He had a good game on the whole on saturday. 'Your number 4 is the standout', said me Everton mate. New season, maybe better disciplined with less need for him to be a '10'. Their goal being more about the left of our defence being vacated than joey. He's not shit. Think him and Fletch were good and it's a fresh 'partnership'. For stupid money I'd sell and go again though. I thought he played really well, but there's not getting away from the fact that he fell asleep and didn't track Rooney's run for their goal...... No use picking it apart, watched motd earlier Fletch showing Pieters where he should be etc. Be better with Bruno on the left.. but Erik was ok and Cam was good. It was a well worked opposition goal at the end of the day. I'm happy to leave the blame game for the dressing room and post match roastings on that goal.
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Post by Gods on Aug 15, 2017 22:27:59 GMT
Why is this being discussed. The club have already made a statement.............Allen is not for sale. Which I think means he isn't for sale Yes, I hope it means precisely that.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 15, 2017 22:28:31 GMT
He had a good game on the whole on saturday. 'Your number 4 is the standout', said me Everton mate. New season, maybe better disciplined with less need for him to be a '10'. Their goal being more about the left of our defence being vacated than joey. He's not shit. Think him and Fletch were good and it's a fresh 'partnership'. For stupid money I'd sell and go again though. Perfectly fair comment. I like Allen, I think he gives us energy in midfield and gets attacks started. Also chips in with goals in a low scoring side. Sure, he can be a bit "keen", but he's far from shit. I would say he is a pretty good player overall. I also think I would let him go for 25 big ones.
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Post by philb on Aug 15, 2017 22:29:25 GMT
Why is this being discussed. The club have already made a statement.............Allen is not for sale. Which I think means he isn't for sale Because it's bash the club time again with some saying they're stupid to turn down £25m for Allen who is a headless chicken and thick to boot 😉
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 15, 2017 22:31:51 GMT
Allen was superb at the Euros he is a good player just needs to be in a team with a system, plan and some balls .
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 15, 2017 22:33:57 GMT
Why is this being discussed. The club have already made a statement.............Allen is not for sale. Which I think means he isn't for sale Because it's bash the club time again with some saying they're stupid to turn down £25m for Allen who is a headless chicken and thick to boot 😉 I think we'll sell him.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 15, 2017 22:34:36 GMT
He's thick. Take last season. He'd be doing the high press with just him, whilst everyone else was 30 yards further back. He's like a dog chasing the ball. He's got no discipline to play deeper and doesn't link the play further up the pitch. Maybe he's just trying too hard to compensate for the lack of support. Like last season for the faultless Whelan?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 15, 2017 22:37:23 GMT
Maybe he's just trying too hard to compensate for the lack of support. Like last season for the faultless Whelan? The midfield in general was shite last season including Allen. That's why all of them need fooking off. Allen just unbalances things too. He's done more harm than good to the squad.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 15, 2017 22:44:45 GMT
Like last season for the faultless Whelan? The midfield in general was shite last season including Allen. That's why all of them need fooking off. Allen just unbalances things too. He's done more harm than good to the squad. If that's the case, we can blame only one man.
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