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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 13, 2017 21:33:39 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 13, 2017 21:35:36 GMT
Transfer request imminent then..
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Post by Fred Merger on Aug 13, 2017 21:36:10 GMT
Say he's wank, you know you want to..... He's a wank twat who looks like Voldemort. More like Freddie kruga without his hat!
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Post by LDE76 on Aug 13, 2017 21:36:13 GMT
I don't doubt that for a second, but if Swansea offered £25-30m, would either Stoke or the player really say no?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 13, 2017 21:38:12 GMT
I'd be pissed off tbh if we turned down anything above £25m. Yes, he'd need replacing but he's worth nowhere near that much imo.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 13, 2017 21:39:10 GMT
Wouldn't expect him to say anything else as unlike Markwho he seems a decent guy and won't piss on the Club but if a big bid comes in from Swansea I'd expect him to go.
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Post by mrcoke on Aug 13, 2017 21:40:21 GMT
I don't think money should cloud anyone's judgement. We should only sell Allen if we know we can replace him with a better player.
Personally I think that is doubtful. I certainly don't think we should risk buying another ManC failure who has sat on the bench for ages. Swansea want him because they know he is a good player who gives 100%. Personally I think Hughes has made a mistake the way he has used him. If he wasn't satisfied with his #10 players then he should have bought a good proper one not played Allen out of position. I thought he payed better at Everton. My concern now is with Bruno back, Cameron will move to mid-field, his best position, but Allen will move forward and replace Bojan.
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Post by stokeykez on Aug 13, 2017 21:40:33 GMT
Come on Joe. Stay put and have a top season in the beautiful potteries
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Post by pulismaskreplica on Aug 13, 2017 21:43:17 GMT
Stoke City fire sale!!
No problems flogging players out the door but it's like an asset strip of the club. Bring cash in and hardly spend anything on replacements.
Arnautovic £20-£25m Jese loan Walters £3 Choupo £0 Whelan £1.5m Fletcher £0 Bardsley £750k BMI £7m Muniesa loan Zouma loan Joselu £5m Big name striker?? Allen £20m+ Delph £12m
Potentially £55m in and £19m out.
Either clever movement of cash flow or dangerous game
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 13, 2017 21:48:58 GMT
I don't think money should cloud anyone's judgement. We should only sell Allen if we know we can replace him with a better player. Personally I think that is doubtful. I certainly don't think we should risk buying another ManC failure who has sat on the bench for ages. Swansea want him because they know he is a good player who gives 100%. Personally I think Hughes has made a mistake the way he has used him. If he wasn't satisfied with his #10 players then he should have bought a good proper one not played Allen out of position. I thought he payed better at Everton. My concern now is with Bruno back, Cameron will move to mid-field, his best position, but Allen will move forward and replace Bojan. You can just see that happening.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 13, 2017 21:55:20 GMT
I wouldn't sell Allen in the slightest, only a daft person would unless it is crazy double or triple money. I would Adam though for Delph in a heartbeat. Well it looks like it will be crazy money if he does go, it would be a great deal for us.
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 13, 2017 21:59:02 GMT
I've never been impressed by him. If there is £25m on the table for him he should be sold. We can use that to buy someone we actually need like a proper holding midfielder
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 13, 2017 21:59:59 GMT
I don't think money should cloud anyone's judgement. We should only sell Allen if we know we can replace him with a better player. Personally I think that is doubtful. I certainly don't think we should risk buying another ManC failure who has sat on the bench for ages. Swansea want him because they know he is a good player who gives 100%. Personally I think Hughes has made a mistake the way he has used him. If he wasn't satisfied with his #10 players then he should have bought a good proper one not played Allen out of position. I thought he payed better at Everton. My concern now is with Bruno back, Cameron will move to mid-field, his best position, but Allen will move forward and replace Bojan. You can just see that happening. So selling Allen for a fuck ton of money negates that. Ace!
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 13, 2017 22:04:12 GMT
I like Allen. If we replace him with delph we are worse off. Illaramendi on the other hand....
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 13, 2017 22:05:34 GMT
You can just see that happening. So selling Allen for a fuck ton of money negates that. Ace! I agree but I wouldn't have used the word ace as it makes you sound about 9.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 13, 2017 22:06:21 GMT
So selling Allen for a fuck ton of money negates that. Ace! I agree but I wouldn't have used the word ace as it makes you sound about 9. Nah it's a mint word.
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Post by alster on Aug 13, 2017 22:07:58 GMT
And here was me thinking he was a gypo
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Post by alster on Aug 13, 2017 22:10:53 GMT
Come on Joe. Stay put and have a top season in the beautiful potteries I've enjoyed it here since day one its like the whacky warehouse I just do whatever the fuck I want without restriction.
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Post by crownmeking on Aug 13, 2017 22:38:07 GMT
Come on Joe. Stay put and have a top season in the beautiful potteries I've enjoyed it here since day one its like the whacky warehouse I just do whatever the fuck I want without restriction. The goals he scored last season were vital to us, so put a sock in your fat mouth for a change.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 13, 2017 22:38:59 GMT
Stoke City fire sale!! No problems flogging players out the door but it's like an asset strip of the club. Bring cash in and hardly spend anything on replacements. Arnautovic £20-£25m Jese loan Walters £3 Choupo £0 Whelan £1.5m Fletcher £0 Bardsley £750k BMI £7m Muniesa loan Zouma loan Joselu £5m Big name striker?? Allen £20m+ Delph £12m Potentially £55m in and £19m out. Either clever movement of cash flow or dangerous game I imagine in every case you quote the new player will have higher wages than the one he replaces or will require a major upfront payment. The coffers are for wages and signing fees plus transfer fees so to need to look at the full picture. A 5 year deal for Bruno is probably some significant way over £20 million when everyone has had their share
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Post by pulismaskreplica on Aug 13, 2017 22:50:07 GMT
Stoke City fire sale!! No problems flogging players out the door but it's like an asset strip of the club. Bring cash in and hardly spend anything on replacements. Arnautovic £20-£25m Jese loan Walters £3 Choupo £0 Whelan £1.5m Fletcher £0 Bardsley £750k BMI £7m Muniesa loan Zouma loan Joselu £5m Big name striker?? Allen £20m+ Delph £12m Potentially £55m in and £19m out. Either clever movement of cash flow or dangerous game I imagine in every case you quote the new player will have higher wages than the one he replaces or will require a major upfront payment. The coffers are for wages and signing fees plus transfer fees so to need to look at the full picture. A 5 year deal for Bruno is probably some significant way over £20 million when everyone has had their share Definitely but it's different to how we've operated previously. We've spent decent fees in past seasons as well as covering contracts over 5 years. Imbula £18m Allen £13m Berahino £12m Shaqiri £12m
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 14:57:06 GMT
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Post by werrington on Aug 14, 2017 14:58:34 GMT
That will change IF they offer big cash and he asks to speak
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Post by biglad180 on Aug 14, 2017 14:58:59 GMT
well that's good enough if he is happy here put the thread to bed
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 15:00:11 GMT
That will change IF they offer big cash and he asks to speak Aye. Here's hoping...£30m would be lovely.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 14, 2017 15:00:41 GMT
Stoke want north of £25 mil then! 😎
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 15:02:59 GMT
I hope he stays he's a cracking player, plus we need him.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 14, 2017 15:04:24 GMT
I wouldn't be upset either way.
I quite like him as a player but I wouldn't be at all upset if we somehow got around £25m for him and don't really see how we could turn that down
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Post by Billy the kid on Aug 14, 2017 15:06:13 GMT
Stoke City fire sale!! No problems flogging players out the door but it's like an asset strip of the club. Bring cash in and hardly spend anything on replacements. Arnautovic £20-£25m Jese loan Walters £3 Choupo £0 Whelan £1.5m Fletcher £0 Bardsley £750k BMI £7m Muniesa loan Zouma loan Joselu £5m Big name striker?? Allen £20m+ Delph £12m Potentially £55m in and £19m out. Either clever movement of cash flow or dangerous game I imagine in every case you quote the new player will have higher wages than the one he replaces or will require a major upfront payment. The coffers are for wages and signing fees plus transfer fees so to need to look at the full picture. A 5 year deal for Bruno is probably some significant way over £20 million when everyone has had their share I kinda get that, but you would think 4 out of the 5 years wages would come out of the next 4 years budget?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 14, 2017 15:08:17 GMT
Joe Allen's comments also mean that unlike the snake, we should be able to maximise any fee we do get should we decide to sell him.
Good lad Joe.
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