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Post by jeycov on Aug 8, 2017 11:15:09 GMT
Get it done, get him off the wagebill and bring someone in suited to the league. Its a very physical league whether people like it or not. Disagree, he's made is making some telling through passes to create goals for others If he does not want to stay here, then we need to bring a creative player in BEFORE selling him Just a different opinion
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Post by johnbutlershair on Aug 8, 2017 11:24:55 GMT
Get it done, get him off the wagebill and bring someone in suited to the league. Its a very physical league whether people like it or not. Disagree, he's made is making some telling through passes to create goals for others If he does not want to stay here, then we need to bring a creative player in BEFORE selling him Just a different opinion For me Bojan thrives with a very mobile centre forward in front of him. One that will find pockets of space and in turn creates pockets of space giving Bojan a target to hit. When he has one who is quite static or makes the wrong runs then it makes it easier for players to close him down. With Diouf he's great. When he's got say Crouch in front of him that's when he struggles
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 8, 2017 11:27:08 GMT
Disagree, he's made is making some telling through passes to create goals for others If he does not want to stay here, then we need to bring a creative player in BEFORE selling him Just a different opinion For me Bojan thrives with a very mobile centre forward in front of him. One that will find pockets of space and in turn creates pockets of space giving Bojan a target to hit. When he has one who is quite static or makes the wrong runs then it makes it easier for players to close him down. With Diouf he's great. When he's got say Crouch in front of him that's when he struggles Funny that given he's rarely featured alongside diouf, if ever, in competitive action. His best form was alongside Walters of all people, pre injury.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 8, 2017 11:29:03 GMT
I and I think every associated to Stoke City wanted Bojan to come back and be the player he was pre injury but I just don't think that's ever going to happen, not in a league as tough as the Premier League anyway. If there's an opportunity to buy someone with the money we get for Imbula we should do it and let Bojan go.
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Post by alster on Aug 8, 2017 11:32:19 GMT
Get it done, get him off the wagebill and bring someone in suited to the league. Its a very physical league whether people like it or not. Disagree, he's made is making some telling through passes to create goals for others If he does not want to stay here, then we need to bring a creative player in BEFORE selling him Just a different opinion Shaq has better vision and passing and looks after the ball far better than Bojan. If we're playing a 10 it should be Shaq. We could achieve that by playing the new signing or Ramadan wide right and the other left but all that is irrelevant if we're going 343 or as some people are calling it 3421 which funnily looks exactly the same shape as Chelsea's 343.
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Post by johnbutlershair on Aug 8, 2017 11:38:11 GMT
For me Bojan thrives with a very mobile centre forward in front of him. One that will find pockets of space and in turn creates pockets of space giving Bojan a target to hit. When he has one who is quite static or makes the wrong runs then it makes it easier for players to close him down. With Diouf he's great. When he's got say Crouch in front of him that's when he struggles Funny that given he's rarely featured alongside diouf, if ever, in competitive action. His best form was alongside Walters of all people, pre injury. 2014-2015 from October onwards for a period until his injury Diouf and Bojan started a lot of games together. Admittedly not as many as I thought but Bojan did lay on a few assists. I thought it was longer than that. Must be old age and too many oatcakes playing with my memory:-)
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Post by alster on Aug 8, 2017 11:38:28 GMT
I and I think every associated to Stoke City wanted Bojan to come back and be the player he was pre injury but I just don't think that's ever going to happen, not in a league as tough as the Premier League anyway. If there's an opportunity to buy someone with the money we get for Imbula we should do it and let Bojan go. Is it really Bojan thats changed/not recovered form. The Prem and Div 1 before it have always been physical leagues but I think in the last couple of years its become even more intense and physical with power being king. I just don't think dealing with that is or ever was a strong attribute of Bojan's.
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 8, 2017 11:39:48 GMT
I think he will be sold if a decent bid comes in for him.
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Post by shrewspotter on Aug 8, 2017 11:44:51 GMT
The minute Hughes let Mainz have him was the start of the end for me. If Malaga came in with a decent bid, 5 million mark then I would amazed if Hughes didn't accept, same goes for Joselu
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Post by nott1 on Aug 8, 2017 11:47:10 GMT
The minute Hughes let Mainz have him was the start of the end for me. If Malaga came in with a decent bid, 5 million mark then I would amazed if Hughes didn't accept, same goes for Joselu If Jos is worth £12m so is Bojan!
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Post by stokiemarc on Aug 8, 2017 11:48:52 GMT
I love Bojan but I don't think I've ever seen a player give up possession as often as he does, especially in pre season and last year too. It makes me really sad as he has such potential and even in the RB friendly he had some good periods of the game. We should however cash in and throw money at Mayer or put Shaq in at 10 and the buy another winger.
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Post by alster on Aug 8, 2017 11:54:42 GMT
I love Bojan but I don't think I've ever seen a player give up possession as often as he does, especially in pre season and last year too. It makes me really sad as he has such potential and even in the RB friendly he had some good periods of the game. We should however cash in and throw money at Mayer or put Shaq in at 10 and the buy another winger. Very true he doesn't protect the ball well at all, with slight players its all about body shape but he doesn't seem to adopt body positions to try to counteract his lack of physicality. He accepts being dispossessed far to easily for me it doesn't seem to rile him greatly.
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Post by toppercorner on Aug 8, 2017 11:55:37 GMT
I really don't understand the clamour for Shaq at no. 10 in the middle.
Yes, i think he could do it, but then we have no genuine right winger, with his pace, causing opposition heaaches down that side, and stretching them, thus creating space in the middle (if only our forwards were to get there in time)
By putting him in the middle, we then need another right winger who is just as quick and good, otherwise, the opposition are going to shut Shaq down in the centre, and limit our chances even more, as we don't have the proper wingers anymore to get crosses in, nor will we be able to thread things through the middle (like Bojan can)
Keep him, and use the whole squad in different formations, against different teams
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Post by shrewspotter on Aug 8, 2017 11:56:34 GMT
The minute Hughes let Mainz have him was the start of the end for me. If Malaga came in with a decent bid, 5 million mark then I would amazed if Hughes didn't accept, same goes for Joselu If Jos is worth £12m so is Bojan! really............I cant see either going for anywhere near that figure. Then again Everton are prepared to pay 50m for Sigurdsson so you never know
Dan
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 8, 2017 11:57:15 GMT
Funny that given he's rarely featured alongside diouf, if ever, in competitive action. His best form was alongside Walters of all people, pre injury. 2014-2015 from October onwards for a period until his injury Diouf and Bojan started a lot of games together. Admittedly not as many as I thought but Bojan did lay on a few assists. I thought it was longer than that. Must be old age and too many oatcakes playing with my memory:-) You would think Bojan behind Diouf would be a marriage made in heaven for both players wouldn't you? I'm amazed we've rarely seen it. Diouf has pace and physical presence which can stretch and occupy defenders which should, theoretically, give Bojan all the space in the world to weave his particular brand of magic.
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 8, 2017 11:57:59 GMT
The minute Hughes let Mainz have him was the start of the end for me. If Malaga came in with a decent bid, 5 million mark then I would amazed if Hughes didn't accept, same goes for Joselu If Jos is worth £12m so is Bojan! Who says he is? The rumoured £12M offer from Ncastle was only a fractation of that, and everybody should really understand that we wouldn't have called that kind of bid for him derisory!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 8, 2017 11:59:42 GMT
The minute Hughes let Mainz have him was the start of the end for me. If Malaga came in with a decent bid, 5 million mark then I would amazed if Hughes didn't accept, same goes for Joselu If Jos is worth £12m so is Bojan! Neither are.
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 8, 2017 12:00:08 GMT
The minute Hughes let Mainz have him was the start of the end for me. If Malaga came in with a decent bid, 5 million mark then I would amazed if Hughes didn't accept, same goes for Joselu I think you are very close to the evaluation by the club, £5-6M would do the trick I think.
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Post by johnbutlershair on Aug 8, 2017 12:01:05 GMT
2014-2015 from October onwards for a period until his injury Diouf and Bojan started a lot of games together. Admittedly not as many as I thought but Bojan did lay on a few assists. I thought it was longer than that. Must be old age and too many oatcakes playing with my memory:-) You would think Bojan behind Diouf would be a marriage made in heaven for both players wouldn't you? I'm amazed we've rarely seen it. Diouf has pace and physical presence which can stretch and occupy defenders which should, theoretically, give Bojan all the space in the world to weave his particular brand of magic. You'd think it would be. As I've said before I think Diouf is our best centre forward. In his first season he got into double figures. For some reason Hughes doesn't trust him. He started him upfront against Bournemouth, scores and then is subsequently dropped. Him Bojan shaqiri and Choupo-Moting/Sobhi would be ideal going forward imho
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 8, 2017 12:03:04 GMT
He's bound to be affected if he's the sole remaining member of the Three Amigos on the books. They seem his biggest friends in the country.
Could we see all Three Amigos wiped off the board in one fell swoop?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 8, 2017 12:03:38 GMT
You would think Bojan behind Diouf would be a marriage made in heaven for both players wouldn't you? I'm amazed we've rarely seen it. Diouf has pace and physical presence which can stretch and occupy defenders which should, theoretically, give Bojan all the space in the world to weave his particular brand of magic. You'd think it would be. As I've said before I think Diouf is our best centre forward. In his first season he got into double figures. For some reason Hughes doesn't trust him. He started him upfront against Bournemouth, scores and then is subsequently dropped. Him Bojan shaqiri and Choupo-Moting/Sobhi would be ideal going forward imho No arguments from me with Diouf. He's our best forward option by far and his constant omission or deployment in other positions makes absolutely no sense when you consider he scored 13 goals in his first season and started the following season with 3 in 7. For me, it's rank stupidity and I just don't understand it. It is, in my opinion, by far and away the biggest stick with which to beat Mark Hughes with.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 8, 2017 12:04:59 GMT
He's bound to be affected if he's the sole remaining member of the Three Amigos on the books. They seem his biggest friends in the country. Could we see all Three Amigos wiped off the board in one fell swoop? A very good point re Bojan though he is also very good friends, and lives next to, De Gea and close to Silva and Mata. You have to think that all 3 will be gone given the right offers.
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Post by johnbutlershair on Aug 8, 2017 12:05:23 GMT
You'd think it would be. As I've said before I think Diouf is our best centre forward. In his first season he got into double figures. For some reason Hughes doesn't trust him. He started him upfront against Bournemouth, scores and then is subsequently dropped. Him Bojan shaqiri and Choupo-Moting/Sobhi would be ideal going forward imho No arguments from me with Diouf. He's our best forward option by far and his constant omission or deployment in other positions makes absolutely no sense when you consider he scored 13 goals in his first season and started the following season with 3 in 7. For me, it's rank stupidity and I just don't understand it. It is, in my opinion, by far and away the biggest stick with which to beat Mark Hughes with. Don't disagree. Even when he isn't scoring his constant running harasses defenders and creates opportunities for others
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Post by Hannibal on Aug 8, 2017 12:07:38 GMT
I wouldn't like to see him leave for anything less than £7 million considering he's still only 26
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Post by reddipotter on Aug 8, 2017 12:08:23 GMT
The sooner we leave behind the ridiculous 'stokealona' experiment the better. It was never suitable for Stoke City and led us down a blind alley from which we are currently desperately trying to escape.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 8, 2017 12:17:04 GMT
I feel violently sick.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Aug 8, 2017 12:20:35 GMT
The sooner we leave behind the ridiculous 'stokealona' experiment the better. It was never suitable for Stoke City and led us down a blind alley from which we are currently desperately trying to escape. It led us to play some of the best football Stoke have played in my lifetime. I'm pretty sure we dropped the 'Stokelona' experiment 18 months ago when we decided we revert back to Pulisball and be completely shite at it.
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Post by CillaBlacksPissFlaps on Aug 8, 2017 12:20:50 GMT
He's bound to be affected if he's the sole remaining member of the Three Amigos on the books. They seem his biggest friends in the country. Could we see all Three Amigos wiped off the board in one fell swoop? Don't rule it out FM.
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Post by wingy11 on Aug 8, 2017 12:22:09 GMT
I can see this season being very interesting the last time mark hughes changed a squad as drastically as this was with qpr and what happened there
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Post by mailman44 on Aug 8, 2017 23:57:44 GMT
Disagree, he's made is making some telling through passes to create goals for others If he does not want to stay here, then we need to bring a creative player in BEFORE selling him Just a different opinion For me Bojan thrives with a very mobile centre forward in front of him. One that will find pockets of space and in turn creates pockets of space giving Bojan a target to hit. When he has one who is quite static or makes the wrong runs then it makes it easier for players to close him down. With Diouf he's great. When he's got say Crouch in front of him that's when he struggles EXACTLY! I have been saying this for two years. Bojan and Diouf with Ramadan and Shaq are the explosive combination we need to see on our patch!
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