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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2017 7:58:39 GMT
I'm not in tune with his thoughts though am I so it's only ever going to be gut feeling on my part isn't it? Only he knows where his head's at but I'll happily question his work rate, as on occasions last season I think it was lacking..... Seems unfounded to me but you're entitled to your gut feeling. Personally I don't think it's his commitment to the cause that's preventing him figuring in our starting lineup. Hope you're safe after the earthquake fella......
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 2, 2017 8:41:07 GMT
Fuck the lot of you, wankers.
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Post by nott1 on Aug 2, 2017 8:43:52 GMT
Shaq at 10, Bojan as the poacher and drop Berahino Won't happen. Hughes can't afford another flop, and will persevere with Berahino as a lone striker. Joselu must play some part NOW!
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Post by wearepremierleague on Aug 2, 2017 8:48:29 GMT
Put it this way- He shits on Berahino, and i'm sure he has a future at the club
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 2, 2017 9:03:58 GMT
If we had the Bojan we 1st. signed then YES. If he keeps on the way he has since his injury then NO.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 2, 2017 9:06:28 GMT
Won't happen. Hughes can't afford another flop, and will persevere with Berahino as a lone striker. Joselu must play some part NOW! Totally agree.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2017 9:28:32 GMT
Fucking hell, he was getting praised after Saturday!
This board is so wet, regardless of Bojan's future, it's fucking criminal how wet the majority of posters actually are.
How do you actually go about your day to day lives when your opinions are made on foundations of sand?
At least the posters people like to berate are consistent.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 2, 2017 9:36:00 GMT
He won't start the season in the team and I can see him pushing for a move away before the deadline ends. Not in a disrespectful Arnie type of way I just think there will be a separation come the end of August, whether that's a loan or permanent depends on interest I guess. Hope I'm wrong would love to see him firing and he showed the odd glimpse at Bolton of the old Bojan, but my gut feeling says he'll spend the next few years of his career in La Liga with one of the mid-table teams.... That doesn't really answer my question though... saying he doesn't have the desire to knuckle down seems to question his workrate or commitment, which I think is pretty unfair. He didn't last season, he asked for a loan away.
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Post by superheroantonius on Aug 2, 2017 9:40:47 GMT
He might have to have a future at stoke if berahino carries on playing as he has.
Is he as good as before his injury? Nowhere near
Is he better than berahino? Well obviously. He's not that bad
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 2, 2017 9:41:33 GMT
He might have to have a future at stoke if berahino carries on playing as he has. Is he as good as before his injury? Nowhere near Is he better than berahino? Well obviously. He's not that bad How does that work, they don't play in the same position.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2017 9:58:20 GMT
He might have to have a future at stoke if berahino carries on playing as he has. Is he as good as before his injury? Nowhere near Is he better than berahino? Well obviously. He's not that bad What utter nonsense. This 'before injury' bollocks is exactly that - bollocks. He's probably played some of his best games after his injury. Secondly, he doesn't even play in the same position as Berhaino? What are you talking about?
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Post by 3putts on Aug 2, 2017 10:46:16 GMT
i think bojan & joselu could be our very own "supersubs" bring themon after an hour and let them have funwith defenders who are tiring.
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Post by juiceandbits on Aug 2, 2017 11:45:53 GMT
Look at who he was playing with when he came on against Bolton, and who he was playing with yesterday. He needs intelligent players around him - not the likes of Crouch and Adam. Get him alongside Shaq and Joselu and he'll be quality.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 2, 2017 11:56:03 GMT
If we can build the team properly (and that's the important bit) around Shaqiri playing as the number 10, then I don't see any reason at all why Bojan can't successfully come on as a sub in that position, or replace Shaqiri when he (inevitably) gets injured.
They key though, is getting the team properly built around a number 10 in the first place.
Unlikely to happen sadly ...
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 2, 2017 12:20:26 GMT
He might have to have a future at stoke if berahino carries on playing as he has. Is he as good as before his injury? Nowhere near Is he better than berahino? Well obviously. He's not that bad What utter nonsense. This 'before injury' bollocks is exactly that - bollocks. He's probably played some of his best games after his injury. Secondly, he doesn't even play in the same position as Berhaino? What are you talking about? Beyond that Man City game, can you think of one where he looked as good as he did in that run up to his injury? Decent against Man Utd and Everton straight after the Man City game. Decent against Leicester last season but tired second half. Struggling beyond that.
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Post by stokeyank on Aug 2, 2017 12:23:35 GMT
Just as any player does he needs players around him in order to be at his best. When he had that golden spell, who was playing behind him? Have we truly replaced that player yet?
Bojan is not the issue, it's the players behind him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2017 12:23:41 GMT
What utter nonsense. This 'before injury' bollocks is exactly that - bollocks. He's probably played some of his best games after his injury. Secondly, he doesn't even play in the same position as Berhaino? What are you talking about? Beyond that Man City game, can you think of one where he looked as good as he did in that run up to his injury? Decent against Man Utd and Everton straight after the Man City game. Decent against Leicester last season but tired second half. Struggling beyond that. Everton away, Swansea away, Bournemouth at home, Leicester at home on his comeback also, all off the top of my head. It's a piss poor excuse, he's been managed absolutely terribly and his attitude has suffered as a result.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 2, 2017 12:35:17 GMT
Beyond that Man City game, can you think of one where he looked as good as he did in that run up to his injury? Decent against Man Utd and Everton straight after the Man City game. Decent against Leicester last season but tired second half. Struggling beyond that. Everton away, Swansea away, Bournemouth at home, Leicester at home on his comeback also, all off the top of my head. It's a piss poor excuse, he's been managed absolutely terribly and his attitude has suffered as a result. Bournemouth at home where everyone was largely terrible and he missed a penalty? I wouldn't say he looked, even being decent in those other games, at the level he was at before his injury. Can't agree. He had chances last season against some fairly ropy opposition and really didn't do much. I'd love him to get back to how he was, but like Imbula, it can't be down to him when he's good and down to Hughes when he isn't.
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Post by TexasPotter on Aug 2, 2017 12:49:26 GMT
This thread is such bullshit that is all
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2017 13:21:41 GMT
Waif.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Aug 3, 2017 12:34:56 GMT
Let's be honest, after really poor performances for us last season, he went out on loan and didn't exactly set the world on fire there either. Unfortunately, he is looking a spent force. Love to see the guy back at his best but I just don't see it happening anytime soon. Can't see a positive future at Stoke for him.
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Post by Northy on Aug 3, 2017 20:44:43 GMT
Unfortunately Bojan just doesnt look suited to how we set up or the power of our league, he would be better off at a mid table la liga team
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Post by skelman on Aug 3, 2017 23:25:47 GMT
Was really looking forward to seeing him back But not a starter for me on current form Don't think he'll want to play 'cameos' till next May Unfortunately I think the inevitable will happen by end Jan
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Post by boothenesque on Aug 4, 2017 9:06:34 GMT
I don't get why we have never tried him as an out and out poacher kind of striker. He's intelligent, instinctive, quick thinking, has an eye for goal, technically gifted. That goal against West Ham last season for example. He's not a workhorse, he's not strong, he's not going to mix it up, he hasn't got a "midfield engine", he's not a winger, not a defender, not a tackler, not going to track back. Give him the ball in clear sight of goal and and he will cause problems. I don't know why we don't play to his strengths instead of trying to shoehorn him into something he's not best equipped for. Ok, he's not Harry Kane, or Jamie Vardy, but neither were a list of clinical goal poaching greats. With goals come confidence which seems to be what he is lacking. I suppose someone needs to decide one way or the other as this state of limbo is no good for StokeC or Bojan. Should have banged him up top in the friendlies to at least try something different, which is what friendlies are for.
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Post by Fred Merger on Aug 4, 2017 9:26:34 GMT
I don't get why we have never tried him as an out and out poacher kind of striker. He's intelligent, instinctive, quick thinking, has an eye for goal, technically gifted. That goal against West Ham last season for example. He's not a workhorse, he's not strong, he's not going to mix it up, he hasn't got a "midfield engine", he's not a winger, not a defender, not a tackler, not going to track back. Give him the ball in clear sight of goal and and he will cause problems. I don't know why we don't play to his strengths instead of trying to shoehorn him into something he's not best equipped for. Ok, he's not Harry Kane, or Jamie Vardy, but neither were a list of clinical goal poaching greats. With goals come confidence which seems to be what he is lacking. I suppose someone needs to decide one way or the other as this state of limbo is no good for StokeC or Bojan. Should have banged him up top in the friendlies to at least try something different, which is what friendlies are for. I agree he is a clever finisher but you cant see MH dropping Berahino and you also have the re emergence of Joselu. He is going to be limited in opportunities ie from the bench!
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Post by adamsson on Aug 4, 2017 9:56:07 GMT
Was really looking forward to seeing him back But not a starter for me on current form Don't think he'll want to play 'cameos' till next May Unfortunately I think the inevitable will happen by end Jan Depends who the manager is then doesn't it? Can't Hughes lasting that long.
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Post by boothenesque on Aug 4, 2017 10:01:33 GMT
If Joselu finally works out then great. I suppose he will have to persist with Berahino and hope that the investment pays off or more questions would be asked. A self-imposed year out before joining us, has far from dazzled so far. Maybe he has talent but the wrong mentality, maybe he was hard done to during his year of exile, maybe that period has affected him, is he hungry or ambitious enough, does he really have enough ability. Hard to say without playing him I suppose, whereas we do know Bojan's ability. Weighing up the 2 options it would have seemed sensible to at least have tried it during the friendlies ut then again I'm not a football manager/coach so you would expect them to have thought of that option already. Would be more clinical than Diouf, from what we have seen so far more clinical than Berahino, could work with Crouch or Joselu. Likely not a lone striker but then the likes of Owen and Lineker will have had games as a lone striker, have one touch all game and score. I would have more faith in Bojan finding the net than Berahino so logically why not give it a go, what do the manager and coaches see that prevents it from being tried?
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 8, 2017 11:03:46 GMT
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Post by alster on Aug 8, 2017 11:11:35 GMT
Get it done, get him off the wagebill and bring someone in suited to the league. Its a very physical league whether people like it or not.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Aug 8, 2017 11:14:04 GMT
I don't think Hughes wants him.
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