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Post by skelman on Jul 28, 2017 18:49:13 GMT
As it stands we are understandably relegation candidates. Which we haven't been since our first season up. This really does need to be addressed because if we can hear this from the media then damn right the club have heard it. The club either need to address this or we will be in a relegation battle Don't talk rubbish you wet wuss
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 28, 2017 18:51:11 GMT
As it stands we are understandably relegation candidates. Which we haven't been since our first season up. This really does need to be addressed because if we can hear this from the media then damn right the club have heard it. The club either need to address this or we will be in a relegation battle Don't talk rubbish you wet wuss We don't have a defence, he has a point, there's time yet but we're cutting it close.
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Post by TexasPotter on Jul 28, 2017 18:54:00 GMT
Christ alive there are some negative as fuck people on here it's to the point I don't even half read their shit. Unless it's benji of course gotsta read those hahaha I hope we scalp a top club early just to see the backtracking.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jul 28, 2017 19:12:00 GMT
Considering we can have an unlimited number of under 21s in the squad, it is inexcusable to the point of being negligent to not have a squad of 25 seasoned professionals who should be reliable enough to not be a massive gamble on our future. Want to play Edwards at RB? Fine, he doesn't count towards the 25, make sure you have a decent RB in that 25 as well. Same goes for every other position on the pitch. Its not "inexcusable" its complete commercial nonsense.If you have good young players then you want to reduce the seasoned players below 25 so you don't have people hanging around on the wage bill. We can then pay better wages to the players we have and generate more money for transfers while giving the young players experience. Hughes has said the plan is to have 20 or 21 senior players plus youngsters and it has to be the right way forward This week looks to have been one of the slowest for nearly all clubs in the window, seems like everyone is waiting on something to move the market. Nah I'm not apologising to say that I don't buy into that one shred. We are talking about absolute unknowns here. They've never been on loan to prove they could hack it in Leagues One or Two, if Sparky thinks they can be seamlessly dropped straight into the Premier League then fair play to him; but to not field a full 25 man squad on top of that is an horrendous, pointless, high-stakes, low payout gamble. It's the same as Pulis not taking a full bench to Valencia. Ludicrous to even consider by anyone with a scrap of common sense.
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Post by loosestools on Jul 28, 2017 19:13:15 GMT
Christ alive there are some negative as fuck people on here it's to the point I don't even half read their shit. Unless it's benji of course gotsta read those hahaha I hope we scalp a top club early just to see the backtracking. Scalping a top club early doors will bring everyone back on board -Yes! Would I put my house on it - No! But I will dream of it and anything is possible especially early on in the season.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 28, 2017 19:19:25 GMT
Its not "inexcusable" its complete commercial nonsense.If you have good young players then you want to reduce the seasoned players below 25 so you don't have people hanging around on the wage bill. We can then pay better wages to the players we have and generate more money for transfers while giving the young players experience. Hughes has said the plan is to have 20 or 21 senior players plus youngsters and it has to be the right way forward This week looks to have been one of the slowest for nearly all clubs in the window, seems like everyone is waiting on something to move the market. Nah I'm not apologising to say that I don't buy into that one shred. We are talking about absolute unknowns here. They've never been on loan to prove they could hack it in Leagues One or Two, if Sparky thinks they can be seamlessly dropped straight into the Premier League then fair play to him; but to not field a full 25 man squad on top of that is an horrendous, pointless, high-stakes, low payout gamble. It's the same as Pulis not taking a full bench to Valencia. Ludicrous to even consider by anyone with a scrap of common sense. Bournemouth seemed to find it easy enough early in the market , right now we are saying we had a plan not to spend a penny until we sold Arnie its mind boggling negligent , and now eve £25m we didn't know what to do , I'm actually consideing giving my seeing tickets back , not fior cost but on the principal I've no affiliation with the commercial management that's strangling our club infront our eyes .
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Post by TexasPotter on Jul 28, 2017 19:21:23 GMT
Sweet Jesus ^ 😏
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Post by miltonstokienew on Jul 28, 2017 19:23:29 GMT
Nah I'm not apologising to say that I don't buy into that one shred. We are talking about absolute unknowns here. They've never been on loan to prove they could hack it in Leagues One or Two, if Sparky thinks they can be seamlessly dropped straight into the Premier League then fair play to him; but to not field a full 25 man squad on top of that is an horrendous, pointless, high-stakes, low payout gamble. It's the same as Pulis not taking a full bench to Valencia. Ludicrous to even consider by anyone with a scrap of common sense. Bournemouth seemed to find it easy enough early in the market , right now we are saying we had a plan not to spend a penny until we sold Arnie its mind boggling negligent , and now eve £25m we didn't know what to do , I'm actually consideing giving my seeing tickets back , not fior cost but on the principal I've no affiliation with the commercial management that's strangling our club infront our eyes . Don't suppose you'll delete your oatcake account as well ? Starting now
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 19:32:52 GMT
My season card arrived yesterday, I was not to excited about it because I think we're in for a long hard season. Hope I'm wrong, and I do think there will be 3 worse teams than us. My concern is our performance over the last 18 months, our home form, lack of goals and really bad starts to the season. In one way you could say at least this year you get some tough games out of the way at the beginning. I'm just hoping it doesn't leave us in a slump and it goes from bad to worse.
Hopefully sparky will surprise me and we'll have a good season.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 19:39:28 GMT
Nah I'm not apologising to say that I don't buy into that one shred. We are talking about absolute unknowns here. They've never been on loan to prove they could hack it in Leagues One or Two, if Sparky thinks they can be seamlessly dropped straight into the Premier League then fair play to him; but to not field a full 25 man squad on top of that is an horrendous, pointless, high-stakes, low payout gamble. It's the same as Pulis not taking a full bench to Valencia. Ludicrous to even consider by anyone with a scrap of common sense. Bournemouth seemed to find it easy enough early in the market , right now we are saying we had a plan not to spend a penny until we sold Arnie its mind boggling negligent , and now eve £25m we didn't know what to do , I'm actually consideing giving my seeing tickets back , not fior cost but on the principal I've no affiliation with the commercial management that's strangling our club infront our eyes . I've heard some bullshit reasons for not going before but that would go straight to the top of the list.....
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jul 28, 2017 19:39:56 GMT
Nah I'm not apologising to say that I don't buy into that one shred. We are talking about absolute unknowns here. They've never been on loan to prove they could hack it in Leagues One or Two, if Sparky thinks they can be seamlessly dropped straight into the Premier League then fair play to him; but to not field a full 25 man squad on top of that is an horrendous, pointless, high-stakes, low payout gamble. It's the same as Pulis not taking a full bench to Valencia. Ludicrous to even consider by anyone with a scrap of common sense. Bournemouth seemed to find it easy enough early in the market , right now we are saying we had a plan not to spend a penny until we sold Arnie its mind boggling negligent , and now eve £25m we didn't know what to do , I'm actually consideing giving my seeing tickets back , not fior cost but on the principal I've no affiliation with the commercial management that's strangling our club infront our eyes . Go on then give your seeing ticket up. While you're at it deloitte ure amount on the owtcook as well and do us all a favour.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jul 28, 2017 19:43:02 GMT
As it stands we are understandably relegation candidates. Which we haven't been since our first season up. This really does need to be addressed because if we can hear this from the media then damn right the club have heard it. The club either need to address this or we will be in a relegation battle Don't talk rubbish you wet wuss Bloody hell grumpa you're getting a bit cage fighty there. Don't come running to me for support if Pete offers you out by Stans statue.
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Post by Davef on Jul 28, 2017 19:47:08 GMT
Nah I'm not apologising to say that I don't buy into that one shred. We are talking about absolute unknowns here. They've never been on loan to prove they could hack it in Leagues One or Two, if Sparky thinks they can be seamlessly dropped straight into the Premier League then fair play to him; but to not field a full 25 man squad on top of that is an horrendous, pointless, high-stakes, low payout gamble. It's the same as Pulis not taking a full bench to Valencia. Ludicrous to even consider by anyone with a scrap of common sense. Bournemouth seemed to find it easy enough early in the market , right now we are saying we had a plan not to spend a penny until we sold Arnie its mind boggling negligent , and now eve £25m we didn't know what to do , I'm actually consideing giving my seeing tickets back , not fior cost but on the principal I've no affiliation with the commercial management that's strangling our club infront our eyes . I think you probably sent your "seeing tickets" back quite a while ago...
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Post by oldpotter1950 on Jul 28, 2017 19:49:23 GMT
aren't we defeating the object a bit , we have spent x amount of money on filling the corner and extending the attendance to 30,000 plus.the thing is if we don't invest in a few new players we are going to really struggle next season. god forbid we do get relegated then all the money spent on filling the the corner will be in vain ,because if we go down to the championship we will lose at least 8-10,000 supporters because a lot of the fickle fans are glory hunters.i have supported stoke since 1962 but I am not able to get down very often through ill health but I am a potters fan through and through.
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Post by PB1863 on Jul 28, 2017 19:51:12 GMT
Another week goes by and no signings. I have no doubt the team are working very hard to bring in new players. I just hope we don't leave it too late and either miss out or panic buy. Bringing in the right players in Jan is tough if we are struggling for points
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Post by LDE76 on Jul 28, 2017 19:54:19 GMT
The Seeing Ticket.
Is that some mystical object, possessed of magical powers, that allows one to look into the future? If so, giving it up is probably the best course of action, considering all it's ever done is make its custodian look like an idiot.
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Post by Gods on Jul 28, 2017 20:22:12 GMT
Christ alive there are some negative as fuck people on here it's to the point I don't even half read their shit. Unless it's benji of course gotsta read those hahaha I hope we scalp a top club early just to see the backtracking. Scalping a top club early doors will bring everyone back on board -Yes! Would I put my house on it - No! But I will dream of it and anything is possible especially early on in the season. Be nice, I don't think we have beaten a Big 6'er since Man United at the end of 2015, we've been pretty much in free fall since then.
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Post by generationex on Jul 28, 2017 20:27:47 GMT
If you don't trust the managers judgement why would you spend your own money? Said Peter Coates.
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Post by adamsson on Jul 28, 2017 20:28:49 GMT
Another week goes by and no signings. I have no doubt the team are working very hard to bring in new players. I just hope we don't leave it too late and either miss out or panic buy. Bringing in the right players in Jan is tough if we are struggling for points Loose to Everton, Arsenal and West Brom (least be honest this is probable) signing players on deadline day could be tough.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jul 28, 2017 20:29:56 GMT
The Seeing Ticket. Is that some mystical object, possessed of magical powers, that allows one to look into the future? If so, giving it up is probably the best course of action, considering all it's ever done is make its custodian look like an idiot. It's a bit like Barry Trotters wizarding sorting hat. It's owner has all seeing and all knowing powers and the magical ability to confuse all the muggles he encounters. A Muggle.
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Post by shotgunpete on Jul 28, 2017 21:10:00 GMT
If the lads play with some ticker and try hard for 90mins and Hughes settles on a team that can learn to play together that may go some way to positive results. But yeah we still need some players in key areas and hopefully soon, like yesterday! as the Jan transfer window is a largely over priced non event.
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Post by crapslinger on Jul 28, 2017 21:13:15 GMT
If the lads play with some ticker and try hard for 90mins and Hughes settles on a team that can learn to play together that may go some way to positive results. But yeah we still need some players in key areas and hopefully soon, like yesterday! as the Jan transfer window is a largely over priced non event. The Jan window we signed Imbula certainly was
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jul 28, 2017 21:19:46 GMT
If the lads play with some ticker and try hard for 90mins and Hughes settles on a team that can learn to play together that may go some way to positive results. But yeah we still need some players in key areas and hopefully soon, like yesterday! as the Jan transfer window is a largely over priced non event. The Jan window we signed Imbula certainly was And he cost £18 fucking million as well.
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Post by crapslinger on Jul 28, 2017 21:31:56 GMT
The Jan window we signed Imbula certainly was And he cost £18 fucking million as well. Really it's a deal, it's a steal, it's the sale of the fackin century.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 28, 2017 22:08:30 GMT
If you don't trust the managers judgement why would you spend your own money? Said Peter Coates. So why is he employing him?
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Post by duckling on Jul 29, 2017 3:28:29 GMT
Rafa Benitez did a fan question session today, and it was pretty interesting and surprisingly candid.
Newcastle have given up on a lot of targets because they were so inflated. He said they've decided to go for their second choice targets even though it's risky.
The way he made it sound, increasingly the smaller clubs are pulling out, or strongly considering pulling out, of the crazy market and hoping that whatever players they get will be good enough to survive.
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Post by arnie3010 on Jul 29, 2017 3:31:34 GMT
Rafa Benitez did a fan question session today, and it was pretty interesting and surprisingly candid. Newcastle have given up on a lot of targets because they were so inflated. He said they've decided to go for their second choice targets even though it's risky. The way he made it sound, increasingly the smaller clubs are pulling out, or strongly considering pulling out, of the crazy market and hoping that whatever players they get will be good enough to survive. It looks like Hughes and Scholes don't have any second choice targets...
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 29, 2017 10:30:47 GMT
Nah I'm not apologising to say that I don't buy into that one shred. We are talking about absolute unknowns here. They've never been on loan to prove they could hack it in Leagues One or Two, if Sparky thinks they can be seamlessly dropped straight into the Premier League then fair play to him; but to not field a full 25 man squad on top of that is an horrendous, pointless, high-stakes, low payout gamble. It's the same as Pulis not taking a full bench to Valencia. Ludicrous to even consider by anyone with a scrap of common sense. Bournemouth seemed to find it easy enough early in the market , right now we are saying we had a plan not to spend a penny until we sold Arnie its mind boggling negligent , and now eve £25m we didn't know what to do , I'm actually consideing giving my seeing tickets back , not fior cost but on the principal I've no affiliation with the commercial management that's strangling our club infront our eyes . I hope you do send your seeing ticket back. That reduces the possibility of you coming on here and spouting shyte.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2017 10:31:28 GMT
its looking increasingly likely its that
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2017 10:35:32 GMT
Bournemouth seemed to find it easy enough early in the market , right now we are saying we had a plan not to spend a penny until we sold Arnie its mind boggling negligent , and now eve £25m we didn't know what to do , I'm actually consideing giving my seeing tickets back , not fior cost but on the principal I've no affiliation with the commercial management that's strangling our club infront our eyes . I hope you do send your seeing ticket back. That reduces the possibility of you coming on here and spouting shyte. I fear it won't ...
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