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Diouf
Jul 9, 2017 8:29:49 GMT
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Post by Block 22 on Jul 9, 2017 8:29:49 GMT
The thought of starting next season with Diouf in the squad is depressing.
I'd of much rather had Walters in the squad than Diouf. I still don't know how he's a professional footballer.
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Post by werrington on Jul 9, 2017 8:31:06 GMT
Embarrassing....you not him
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2017 8:33:17 GMT
DIouf is a way better striker than Walters.
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Diouf
Jul 9, 2017 8:35:15 GMT
Post by wuzza on Jul 9, 2017 8:35:15 GMT
I'm interested to know what he is in the squad as .....continuing this wing back thing, a winger, a striker - what? If we don't get this sort of thing sorted early we will be carrying on with the same mess that we had last season for him and the team in general.
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Post by scfc75 on Jul 9, 2017 8:38:03 GMT
I'm interested to know what he is in the squad as .....continuing this wing back thing, a winger, a striker - what? If we don't get this sort of thing sorted early we will be carrying on with the same mess that we had last season for him and the team in general. He's a stringerback.
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Post by wuzza on Jul 9, 2017 8:38:35 GMT
DIouf is a way better striker than Walters. Very different skill sets but in overall terms there is no doubt that Walters was the more effective striker for the club. Might be another story if we were to play differently and use Diouf's strengths - but will we ever?
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jul 9, 2017 8:38:49 GMT
Never fails to deliver does this site!!!
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Post by Claus_SCFC on Jul 9, 2017 8:39:31 GMT
I still think Mame would score goals given an extended run up front. By far the best right wingback in the squad as well 😏
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 9, 2017 8:39:58 GMT
Why?
He got 13 goals in his first season which is more than anyone else has managed despite missing 5 weeks of the season due to ACON.
He then got 3 in the opening 6 games of the following only to find himself out of the team ever since. In his 2 games up front last season he scored 1 goal.
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Post by werrington on Jul 9, 2017 8:40:13 GMT
Walters has gone so it's hyperthetical and serves no purpose to even discuss it
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2017 8:40:58 GMT
DIouf is a way better striker than Walters. Very different skill sets but in overall terms there is no doubt that Walters was the more effective striker for the club. Might be another story if we were to play differently and use Diouf's strengths - but will we ever? Diouf scored double league goals for us, Walters never managed that so how do you figure?
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Diouf
Jul 9, 2017 8:41:17 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 9, 2017 8:41:17 GMT
DIouf is a way better striker than Walters. Very different skill sets but in overall terms there is no doubt that Walters was the more effective striker for the club. Might be another story if we were to play differently and use Diouf's strengths - but will we ever? If by effective, you mean consistently offering little to no goal threat I'd tend to agree with you.
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Post by scfc75 on Jul 9, 2017 8:42:27 GMT
Walters has gone so it's hyperthetical and serves no purpose to even discuss it First chance Diouf misses... "SJW would have buried that..."
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jul 9, 2017 8:46:53 GMT
Mame Diouf might not be the greatest, but in his one proper run in the team as the main striker he scored 11 goals, as has been pointed out, and although his finishing might not be the best, the fact is when he's in the team we create chances, that didn't happen with Walters as he always seemed to be one step behind the rest of the team, or being caught offside.
He also hasn't moaned about his place in the team for the past three years either.
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Diouf
Jul 9, 2017 8:47:00 GMT
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Post by st3mark on Jul 9, 2017 8:47:00 GMT
Very different skill sets but in overall terms there is no doubt that Walters was the more effective striker for the club. Might be another story if we were to play differently and use Diouf's strengths - but will we ever? Diouf scored double league goals for us, Walters never managed that so how do you figure? Walters is out second highest prem goalscorer behind crouch. So how do you figure that Diouf has scored double the amount of league goals for us?
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Post by somersetstokie on Jul 9, 2017 8:50:46 GMT
As in Season Double figures?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 9, 2017 8:56:37 GMT
Diouf scored double league goals for us, Walters never managed that so how do you figure? Walters is out second highest prem goalscorer behind crouch. So how do you figure that Diouf has scored double the amount of league goals for us? Diouf hasn't played 300 odd games.
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Diouf
Jul 9, 2017 9:00:23 GMT
Post by Gods on Jul 9, 2017 9:00:23 GMT
Diouf scored double league goals for us, Walters never managed that so how do you figure? Walters is out second highest prem goalscorer behind crouch. So how do you figure that Diouf has scored double the amount of league goals for us? I think he means more than 10 in a season once. Trying to be objective their strike rates are identical, Diouf has 17 in 87 games (a goal every 5.1 games) and Walters has 43 in 226 (a goal every 5.2 games). Walters has done it over a much longer period of time and contributes more over the pitch as a whole since he is a decent footballer and less of an out and out striker. In Diouf's defence he has not been played in his preferred position in recent times but some will say that is because while he has pace he doesn't really have any of the basics like simple ball control. Personally I'd take SJW any day, I think anyone trying to be rational would.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2017 9:01:23 GMT
Diouf scored double league goals for us, Walters never managed that so how do you figure? Walters is out second highest prem goalscorer behind crouch. So how do you figure that Diouf has scored double the amount of league goals for us? I worded that sentence terrible sorry. I meant double league goals in a season. Ie 10 or more in a single season. Walters never did that. He was a 1 in 5 man. Diouf would beat his record in about half the time imo given the opportunity.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2017 9:02:14 GMT
Walters is out second highest prem goalscorer behind crouch. So how do you figure that Diouf has scored double the amount of league goals for us? I think he means more than 10 in a season once. Trying to be objective their strike rates are identical, Diouf has 17 in 87 games (a goal every 5.1 games) and Walters has 43 in 226 (a goal every 5.2 games). Walters has done it over a much longer period of time and contributes more over the pitch as a whole since he is a decent footballer and less of an out and out striker. In Diouf's defence he has not been played in his preferred position in recent times but some will say that is because while he has pace he doesn't really have any of the basics like simple ball control. Personally I'd take SJW any day, I think anyone trying to be rational would. Being objective- Diouf had a season at right back!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 9:02:28 GMT
The smiling assassin will strike again.
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Diouf
Jul 9, 2017 9:10:39 GMT
Post by Gob Bluth on Jul 9, 2017 9:10:39 GMT
I think he's the best person in the squad to play on the right side of midfield in a 3-4-3.
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Diouf
Jul 9, 2017 9:11:04 GMT
Post by Gods on Jul 9, 2017 9:11:04 GMT
I think he means more than 10 in a season once. Trying to be objective their strike rates are identical, Diouf has 17 in 87 games (a goal every 5.1 games) and Walters has 43 in 226 (a goal every 5.2 games). Walters has done it over a much longer period of time and contributes more over the pitch as a whole since he is a decent footballer and less of an out and out striker. In Diouf's defence he has not been played in his preferred position in recent times but some will say that is because while he has pace he doesn't really have any of the basics like simple ball control. Personally I'd take SJW any day, I think anyone trying to be rational would. Being objective- Diouf had a season at right back! Fair point but he didn't play much did he so it didn't completely knacker his stats!
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Diouf
Jul 9, 2017 9:12:54 GMT
Post by Gods on Jul 9, 2017 9:12:54 GMT
I think he's the best person in the squad to play on the right side of midfield in a 3-4-3. If that is a)Serious and b)True then we are in for a long season! He doesn't have even the most basic skills, trapping and passing the ball etc.
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Diouf
Jul 9, 2017 9:13:23 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2017 9:13:23 GMT
Being objective- Diouf had a season at right back! Fair point but he didn't play much did he so it didn't completely knacker his stats! 27 league games last season. How many of them at right back? How many of them coming on for 10 minutes?
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Diouf
Jul 9, 2017 9:15:08 GMT
Post by wuzza on Jul 9, 2017 9:15:08 GMT
Very different skill sets but in overall terms there is no doubt that Walters was the more effective striker for the club. Might be another story if we were to play differently and use Diouf's strengths - but will we ever? If by effective, you mean consistently offering little to no goal threat I'd tend to agree with you. That's just silly on so many levels but I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 9:15:10 GMT
Diouf could be a smashing player for us he has just been starved of service and played out of position but he's a cracking pro.
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Diouf
Jul 9, 2017 9:15:31 GMT
Post by Gods on Jul 9, 2017 9:15:31 GMT
Fair point but he didn't play much did he so it didn't completely knacker his stats! 27 league games last season. How many of them at right back? How many of them coming on for 10 minutes? Fair enough, little wonder we struggled :-)
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Diouf
Jul 9, 2017 9:16:55 GMT
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Post by bhp on Jul 9, 2017 9:16:55 GMT
Why? He got 13 goals in his first season which is more than anyone else has managed despite missing 5 weeks of the season due to ACON. He then got 3 in the opening 6 games of the following only to find himself out of the team ever since. In his 2 games up front last season he scored 1 goal. It's makes you think what on earth happened? Fair enough if he got injured for a prolonged time but if he was dropped it's truly ludicrous. In reply to another post to say that they both have similar strike rates is also ludicrous given that Diouf is used all over the place and Walters constantly played as a striker or winger.
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Diouf
Jul 9, 2017 9:20:21 GMT
Post by wuzza on Jul 9, 2017 9:20:21 GMT
Very different skill sets but in overall terms there is no doubt that Walters was the more effective striker for the club. Might be another story if we were to play differently and use Diouf's strengths - but will we ever? Diouf scored double league goals for us, Walters never managed that so how do you figure? Come off it - is there really any need to run through the numbers , importance and often, high quality, of the goals Walters scored. They are very different players so perhaps comparison is superfluous - but don't diminish the contribution of ability of Walters ( there are only so many corners you can back yourself into Bayern!)
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