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Post by Gods on Jul 14, 2017 23:34:37 GMT
Fair play to John for playing like he did, given he was carrying a planet sized chip on his shoulder, one which Tiger Woods would be proud of. My face didn't fit... bollocks. Was he? I can only call it as I see it and he always looked very comfortable in his own skin to me. He's very fluent and personable with the media too. Are you sure you haven't just made that up?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 14, 2017 23:42:34 GMT
Walters is a modern day Stoke City hero, the stats and performances dictate that, not the bile filled views of dickheads on here, mainly based on who signed him than anything else.
Lets save our bile for true cunts like Arnautovic.
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Post by chamberlain on Jul 14, 2017 23:50:54 GMT
Arnie maybe a cunt , but without him we would have been royally fucked
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Post by Gods on Jul 14, 2017 23:59:21 GMT
Walters is a modern day Stoke City hero, the stats and performances dictate that, not the bile filled views of dickheads on here, mainly based on who signed him than anything else. Lets save our bile for true cunts like Arnautovic. Yes, it's not even a point for debate or conjecture, Walters contribution to the status we now enjoy as a football club has been magnificent, his illustrious place in our history is guaranteed.
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 15, 2017 0:10:34 GMT
Walters is a typical Tory
Thinks the world turns around only him.
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Post by march4 on Jul 15, 2017 0:20:56 GMT
Walters as our most influential player was allowed to leave the club for an utter pittance and join a rival.
This is the deal folk should be up in arms about - more so than the Bruno debacle.
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Post by followyoudown on Jul 15, 2017 0:30:53 GMT
Walters is a modern day Stoke City hero, the stats and performances dictate that, not the bile filled views of dickheads on here, mainly based on who signed him than anything else. Lets save our bile for true cunts like Arnautovic. Errmm didn't Walters pull the same stunt as Arnie is doing to get his move to Stoke nevermind all the stuff he did to get his last new contract at Stoke, narky interviews on TV pulling out of a home game as his mind wasn't right or something etc.
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Post by E1 Potter on Jul 15, 2017 8:17:57 GMT
Coming back from a very wet night at the cricket last night a big chant started in the tram - "super, super jon, super super jon" and I'm thinking surely not, but they were indeed chanting "super Jonny Walters!". it was a bunch of Burnley fans singing very loudly about their new signing! I had a little tear in my eye.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 15, 2017 8:19:00 GMT
Who?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 8:29:56 GMT
Face didn't fit?
1st stop - self awareness course. 2nd stop - a coffee with Mame Diouf.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 15, 2017 8:39:35 GMT
If I've done this correctly (and there's every chance I haven't because it's maths).
Walters for more minutes per appearance than Berahino.
Berahino played 13 times for 722 minutes so 48 minutes per appearance.
Walters 23 times for 1296 minutes so that's 56 minutes per appearance.
So if I've done that right, he's talking utter horseshit.
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Post by Gods on Jul 15, 2017 9:01:41 GMT
Walters as our most influential player was allowed to leave the club for an utter pittance and join a rival. This is the deal folk should be up in arms about - more so than the Bruno debacle. Yep, we've had a 'mare with this one I'm afraid
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Post by foxysgloves on Jul 15, 2017 9:34:07 GMT
If I've done this correctly (and there's every chance I haven't because it's maths). Walters for more minutes per appearance than Berahino. Berahino played 13 times for 722 minutes so 48 minutes per appearance. Walters 23 times for 1296 minutes so that's 56 minutes per appearance. So if I've done that right, he's talking utter horseshit. My maths is even worse than yours but I tried another calculation. Dedication + determination + self belief ÷ resilience × (professionalism + focus) = one of the main reasons we became a stable and established Premier League club against virtually all predictions By the look of Berahino and his improved physical condition, a little bit of SJW has rubbed off on him. Combined with Bera's obvious talent and pace, he may go on to fill a pretty big Jon Walters shaped hole in our squad. Here's hoping.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 15, 2017 9:52:51 GMT
Walters is a modern day Stoke City hero, the stats and performances dictate that, not the bile filled views of dickheads on here, mainly based on who signed him than anything else. Lets save our bile for true cunts like Arnautovic. Errmm didn't Walters pull the same stunt as Arnie is doing to get his move to Stoke nevermind all the stuff he did to get his last new contract at Stoke, narky interviews on TV pulling out of a home game as his mind wasn't right or something etc. Genuinely don't remember him refusing to play fyd. If he did he's a twat but I don't have a problem with the way he left. He was told he wouldn't get an extension and he was told he would be a bit part player so he sorted himself out a nice new number and we got a nice fee. It's fairly easy to move clubs without going all napalm like a mental narcissistic Austrian.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 15, 2017 10:07:02 GMT
Errmm didn't Walters pull the same stunt as Arnie is doing to get his move to Stoke nevermind all the stuff he did to get his last new contract at Stoke, narky interviews on TV pulling out of a home game as his mind wasn't right or something etc. Genuinely don't remember him refusing to play fyd. If he did he's a twat but I don't have a problem with the way he left. He was told he wouldn't get an extension and he was told he would be a bit part player so he sorted himself out a nice new number and we got a nice fee. It's fairly easy to move clubs without going all napalm like a mental narcissistic Austrian. When did Arnie refuse to play? Walters comments about his face not fitting should perhaps highlight the fact that this "true pro" and "huge influence in the dressing room" bollocks can be put to bed once and for all. Was he really a popular character in and around the club? The lack of noise surrounding his departure and statements from key people perhaps suggest not. It remains a case of good riddance for me. 2 goals in a cup semi final when the game was already won changes nothing.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 15, 2017 10:17:55 GMT
Genuinely don't remember him refusing to play fyd. If he did he's a twat but I don't have a problem with the way he left. He was told he wouldn't get an extension and he was told he would be a bit part player so he sorted himself out a nice new number and we got a nice fee. It's fairly easy to move clubs without going all napalm like a mental narcissistic Austrian. When did Arnie refuse to play? Walters comments about his face not fitting should perhaps highlight the fact that this "true pro" and "huge influence in the dressing room" bollocks can be put to bed once and for all. Was he really a popular character in and around the club? The lack of noise surrounding his departure and statements from key people perhaps suggest not. It remains a case of good riddance for me. 2 goals in a cup semi final when the game was already won changes nothing. Whatever your views on Walters he would never have rolled around yelping like a quiffed piglet holding an imaginary injured knee because his brother told him to, like that despicable piece of shit Arnie did this week.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 15, 2017 10:27:54 GMT
When did Arnie refuse to play? Walters comments about his face not fitting should perhaps highlight the fact that this "true pro" and "huge influence in the dressing room" bollocks can be put to bed once and for all. Was he really a popular character in and around the club? The lack of noise surrounding his departure and statements from key people perhaps suggest not. It remains a case of good riddance for me. 2 goals in a cup semi final when the game was already won changes nothing. Whatever your views on Walters he would never have rolled around yelping like a quiffed piglet holding an imaginary injured knee because his brother told him to, like that despicable piece of shit Arnie did this week. But Arnie played every minute of the 45 he was scheduled to play didn't he. In the same way Walters wanted to leave, so does Arnie. Both should get both barrels on their return to stoke with other clubs.
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Post by superheroantonius on Jul 15, 2017 10:52:41 GMT
Walters is a modern day Stoke City hero, the stats and performances dictate that, not the bile filled views of dickheads on here, mainly based on who signed him than anything else. Lets save our bile for true cunts like Arnautovic. In my memory I remember he came on with crouchy in one game and achieved more in the first five minutes than berahino had in the last five games. But footie is clearly a game of opinions as there are plenty on here that just don't see it that way
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Post by followyoudown on Jul 15, 2017 11:06:19 GMT
Errmm didn't Walters pull the same stunt as Arnie is doing to get his move to Stoke nevermind all the stuff he did to get his last new contract at Stoke, narky interviews on TV pulling out of a home game as his mind wasn't right or something etc. Genuinely don't remember him refusing to play fyd. If he did he's a twat but I don't have a problem with the way he left. He was told he wouldn't get an extension and he was told he would be a bit part player so he sorted himself out a nice new number and we got a nice fee. It's fairly easy to move clubs without going all napalm like a mental narcissistic Austrian. Was the West Brom game from memory can't remember 100% butI'm sure there was some comment on his head not being right as to why he wasn't in the squad as he tried to force through his dream move to Norwich. He did the same to join us saying he wanted to leave and you should refresh your memory re his comments at the time of his last contract strop. I also think there's something snidey in his comments on Saido and his pointed thanks to the owners, team and fans tweet. Not disappointed he's gone as I'm looking forward to seeing more game time for Ngoy, Verlinden and Sobhi.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 15, 2017 12:15:01 GMT
Genuinely don't remember him refusing to play fyd. If he did he's a twat but I don't have a problem with the way he left. He was told he wouldn't get an extension and he was told he would be a bit part player so he sorted himself out a nice new number and we got a nice fee. It's fairly easy to move clubs without going all napalm like a mental narcissistic Austrian. Was the West Brom game from memory can't remember 100% butI'm sure there was some comment on his head not being right as to why he wasn't in the squad as he tried to force through his dream move to Norwich. He did the same to join us saying he wanted to leave and you should refresh your memory re his comments at the time of his last contract strop. I also think there's something snidey in his comments on Saido and his pointed thanks to the owners, team and fans tweet. Not disappointed he's gone as I'm looking forward to seeing more game time for Ngoy, Verlinden and Sobhi. I'm pretty delighted he's gone to be honest but can recognise his achievements here and recognise he could easily have sat out his contract and become a burden to us. Luckily, he has a professional pride to play (which many other pro's don't share) which means all parties have benefited from the move. I think Arnie's behaviour in deliberately undermining the club, weakening our bargaining position to make a sideways move and feining injury like a big Austrian blouse is far worse. Can't wait to cut this cancer from the club now.
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Post by jeycov on Jul 15, 2017 12:22:37 GMT
Errmm didn't Walters pull the same stunt as Arnie is doing to get his move to Stoke nevermind all the stuff he did to get his last new contract at Stoke, narky interviews on TV pulling out of a home game as his mind wasn't right or something etc. Genuinely don't remember him refusing to play fyd. If he did he's a twat but I don't have a problem with the way he left. He was told he wouldn't get an extension and he was told he would be a bit part player so he sorted himself out a nice new number and we got a nice fee. It's fairly easy to move clubs without going all napalm like a mental narcissistic Austrian. Hughes also stepped in when there were rumours of SJW joining Leicester - meaning that we haven't had to sell him for free! With less playing time here, he signs for Burnley, has a 2 year contract, probably playing in the Premiership
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 13:13:31 GMT
Anyone criticising SJW for what hes done - is beneath my total and utter contempt Especially given, his loyal service and massive contribution over many years Anyone with even half a fucking brain, would've done EXACTLY what hes done i.e. aged 33 - 12 months to go on his Stoke contract, secures a two year contract and a new signing on fee the hypocrisy, plain stupidity and lack of loyalty to one of those who've gone 'above and beyond' on here especially, sometimes makes me want to vomit .
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Post by superheroantonius on Jul 15, 2017 13:32:17 GMT
If I've done this correctly (and there's every chance I haven't because it's maths). Walters for more minutes per appearance than Berahino. Berahino played 13 times for 722 minutes so 48 minutes per appearance. Walters 23 times for 1296 minutes so that's 56 minutes per appearance. So if I've done that right, he's talking utter horseshit. Berahino joined unfit half way through the season and had to be phased in with 20 mins here half an hour there. Walters obviously thinks once he got here and got fit, he played a lot of games for someone ' not doing particularly well ' There is two ways of looking at this and one is that if walters didn't feel he could have bagged more than zero goals in those games then he shouldn't be a professional footballer. He's gone to burnley to play and show what he can do. Good luck to him.
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Post by roylandstoke on Jul 15, 2017 15:41:35 GMT
Jon Walters did well for Stoke and was incredibly well rewarded for his efforts.
He has been granted his wish to leave Stoke City despite having a contract worth millions of pounds.
He now plays for Burnley and no longer deserves our support.
Like all Burnley players he can fuck right off,
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Post by exhool64 on Jul 15, 2017 15:50:36 GMT
Big part of the team and especially the early prem years. Good luck apart from when you play us
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Post by stantheman on Jul 15, 2017 16:08:51 GMT
Big part of the team and especially the early prem years. Good luck apart from when you play us Well said. He was a big part of us being where we are now. He's a Tory (apparently) not that I give a toss. He always gave 100% in a Stoke shirt. We got a good fee for him. Best of luck to the guy, a true professional. End of. Can we not just move on?
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Post by webbyscfc on Jul 15, 2017 16:34:52 GMT
I can't see anywhere in that article where Walters said his face didn't fit around the club, in fact, quite the opposite. All he said was circumstances change at football clubs (which is true) whether your face fits or not. He isn't saying there his face didn't fit, in fact quite the opposite. I think Hughes was fond go walters and vice versa, but as Walters said, circumstances changed, he got less football because of a new player we have acquired, a player who will obviously be in Hughes plans more this season as he brought him in to the club. For that reason Walters felt he had to move on to get more football. Everything he says is true and I sense no bitterness in his words. Anyone who slags him off on here in my opinion is way off the mark because he gave everything to Stoke City as a club.
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 15, 2017 16:38:28 GMT
I haven't seen the full interview, but it seems a bit strange of him to say that his face didn't fit. He played for Hughes for what, four years? He played a shit load for Hughes. The bloke is just a twat. Looking at the context of the full interview, it looks more like an incredibly clumsy way of saying that he wouldn't get any play time because there are plenty of other players in his position who the manager prefers.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jul 15, 2017 16:39:02 GMT
Big part of the team and especially the early prem years. Good luck apart from when you play us Well said. He was a big part of us being where we are now. He's a Tory (apparently) not that I give a toss. He always gave 100% in a Stoke shirt. We got a good fee for him. Best of luck to the guy, a true professional. End of. Can we not just move on?You must be joking, I can't wait for the start of the season and we get "Walters would have chased that", "Walters would have buried that" and similar bollocks.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Jul 15, 2017 19:49:07 GMT
I can't see anywhere in that article where Walters said his face didn't fit around the club, in fact, quite the opposite. All he said was circumstances change at football clubs (which is true) whether your face fits or not. He isn't saying there his face didn't fit, in fact quite the opposite. I think Hughes was fond go walters and vice versa, but as Walters said, circumstances changed, he got less football because of a new player we have acquired, a player who will obviously be in Hughes plans more this season as he brought him in to the club. For that reason Walters felt he had to move on to get more football. Everything he says is true and I sense no bitterness in his words. Anyone who slags him off on here in my opinion is way off the mark because he gave everything to Stoke City as a club. I think that's a fair summary. When I actually read the interview it had a different feel to the precis given in some posts above. He obviously wants game time, particularly with the world cup coming up, and feels that he will get more of that at Burnley than he would at Stoke next season, given the make up of the squad. He may well be right about that. Stoke could have refused to do business but obviously felt £3m was good business for the club at this stage of his career. So both parties seem happy.I have no problem with a player who wants to play. It's the ones who just seem happy to draw massive salaries whilst not playing, and allow themselves to lose fitness, who deserve stick.
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