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Post by gingerninja on May 11, 2017 9:43:19 GMT
I think another poster may have mentioned it in another thread. It wouldn't surprise me if he left at end of season by mutual consent. I am not sure all is right behind the scenes at the moment?
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Post by alster on May 11, 2017 9:46:07 GMT
I think another poster may have mentioned it in another thread. It wouldn't surprise me if he left at end of season by mutual consent. I am not sure all is right behind the scenes at the moment? In all honesty I think it would be the best thing for all parties. I think we need fresh ideas and he needs a fresh challenge away from the baggage of his mistakes.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 9:53:36 GMT
I think another poster may have mentioned it in another thread. It wouldn't surprise me if he left at end of season by mutual consent. I am not sure all is right behind the scenes at the moment? In all honesty I think it would be the best thing for all parties. I think we need fresh ideas and he needs a fresh challenge away from the baggage of his mistakes. Agreed and mutual consent would keep in tact our reputation as a stable non hiring firing club.Good all round
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Post by jimmygscfc on May 11, 2017 9:57:47 GMT
Sneaky feeling? We really are in the realms of fantasy now. What do the runes say?
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Post by leoncort on May 11, 2017 9:58:00 GMT
I wouldn't hold your breath. From his interviews i get the impression that he feels this season hasnt been as good as the rest due to some bad luck, poor finishing etc. Not the inept substitutions and transfers, lack of knowing his best team and not knowing his best formation either.
He'll stay in my opinion, huge summer, however giving Johnson another year doesnt give me great hope tbh and i hope he does leave.
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Post by jeycov on May 11, 2017 10:13:19 GMT
I think another poster may have mentioned it in another thread. It wouldn't surprise me if he left at end of season by mutual consent. I am not sure all is right behind the scenes at the moment? I posted this yesterday in the plus and minus thread Plus side: I think that his time at Barcelona and Bayern Munich, his international experience as a player (and to a lesser extent as a manager) has helped attract "better "players and in turn improved the image of our club beyond these shores. (Mr Coates must be delighted). Most have not been too expensive
Concerns: I would like to see a more settled team who play for each other.
The reality is that we have a number of very talented individuals, some fighting for the same starting position and the frequent changes in personnel and formations has not worked
Minus points : I get the impression that everything behind the scenes is not quite right, he doesn't seem to be passionate about our club when interviewed in the media?
Agree give him more time (if he wants to stay here) - the club need to hold on to the likes of Butland, Ramadan, Arnie, Shaqiri, Shawcross for at least another season, sign Bruno and strengthen the defenceCoates didn't seem 100% behind him a few weeks ago, when there was some speculation in the press. However, to be looking to 'push us on to the next level", he would need to have someone suitable lined up to 2 good performances may keep more fans onside, a poor start to next season and alarm bells will be ringing.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on May 11, 2017 10:15:22 GMT
The Johnson contract has no bearing on it. There have been a few signs hes thinking of leaving.
In Pulis' last year he kept going on about his record of never having been relegated, FA Cup final, Europa League blah blah blah
Hughes has not been as defensive in his reponses as Pulis was but he does keep saying how hard the Premier League is to continually achieve mid-table position. However he does mention they havent matched expectations this season.
Hes not exactly banging his own drum the same way Pulis was boasting about his personal cv. Maybe Hughes is just too tired and wants a break from the game? He doesnt look a happy camper thats for sure
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Post by Davef on May 11, 2017 10:16:00 GMT
What's the point of this thread?
It's not like it isn't being discussed on countless others.
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Post by Onneravineet on May 11, 2017 10:17:27 GMT
I think another poster may have mentioned it in another thread. It wouldn't surprise me if he left at end of season by mutual consent. I am not sure all is right behind the scenes at the moment? In all honesty I think it would be the best thing for all parties. I think we need fresh ideas and he needs a fresh challenge away from the baggage of his mistakes. I actually think that he is off to China. He is likely to be a massive name over there still with his past association with huge clubs. Probably more than treble his wage too.
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Post by Gods on May 11, 2017 10:18:19 GMT
We currently stand on 41 points with Arsenal (H) and Southampton (A) to play.
Were we to lose both then we would beat our previous Premier League low points total being 42 in the” Pulis P45” season of 2012/13
I know Sparky says we are always striving to achieve things the club has never done before but this would surely be an unwelcome 'achievement' and make things a bit awkward for the Board.
Perhaps more importantly in terms of attracting new players I think the ‘3 consecutive top half finishes’ was as compelling a story as it could be for potential new recruits in the absence of European football.
Oh well, we’ll see, we could really do with picking some points up before this turgid campaign reaches the mercy of its denouement but it will be fiendishly difficult I fear.
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Post by elystokie on May 11, 2017 10:36:34 GMT
The Johnson contract has no bearing on it. There have been a few signs hes thinking of leaving. In Pulis' last year he kept going on about his record of never having been relegated, FA Cup final, Europa League blah blah blah Hughes has not been as defensive in his reponses as Pulis was but he does keep saying how hard the Premier League is to continually achieve mid-table position. However he does mention they havent matched expectations this season. Hes not exactly banging his own drum the same way Pulis was boasting about his personal cv. Maybe Hughes is just too tired and wants a break from the game? He doesnt look a happy camper thats for sure I saw a headline about Toxic on the Sentnull website where he was saying 'my teams would have finished top ten if...' - didn't bother reading it tbh. Like most with Narcissistic Personality Disorder, deep down he's extremely insecure. If MH goes he goes, at least it'll give the hand wringers their wish and we'll get a break from this constant carping.
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Post by Will_75 on May 11, 2017 10:42:55 GMT
What's the point of this thread? It's not like it isn't being discussed on countless others. people are just posting whatever pops into their head. this place will be UNBEARABLE over the summer (not that I'll be able to stay away - it's one habit I can't seem to break...) 1) Hughes is not going. He won't be sacked and he won't walk. 2) The squad will look different next season, but there will be no radical overhaul. 3) This year will be written off as a blip and we will "go again". If you believe/wish for/have a sneaky feeling about anything else, you're only going to impair your own mental health by going on and on and on about it, because rightly or wrongly, it's not going to happen.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 10:56:23 GMT
he may have had a plan when he came but, it seems he's lost sight of it last season and even more so this one Fingers crossed our owners can identify and recruit an improvement Is there such a thing as a likeable, attack minded, ball playing Tony pulis ?
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Post by tqstokie on May 11, 2017 10:57:01 GMT
It would be better for the fans, the club and Mr Hughes if it did. We need change but there is always a risk.
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Post by alster on May 11, 2017 11:04:06 GMT
he may have had a plan when he came but, it seems he's lost sight of it last season and even more so this one Fingers crossed our owners can identify and recruit an improvement Is there such a thing as a likeable, attack minded, ball playing Tony pulis ? So you want Tony Pulis but someone who is the exact opposite to him. Very odd.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 11:04:10 GMT
He's had one bad season in 4. If it becomes (or looks like becoming) 2 in 5 then get rid. For now, I'd prefer us to stick with what we have and give a previously successful manager the chance to get back to what he'd previously done well.
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Post by 3putts on May 11, 2017 11:11:19 GMT
beware of what you wish for. thankfully the oatcake is not representative of stoke city. he has a good relationship with peter coates and that is all what matters.
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Post by alster on May 11, 2017 11:16:21 GMT
beware of what you wish for. thankfully the oatcake is not representative of stoke city. he has a good relationship with peter coates and that is all what matters. Of course the Oatcake is a representative sample of Stoke City's support it has enough registered users to be a very indicative sample of our overall supporter base.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 11:18:13 GMT
he may have had a plan when he came but, it seems he's lost sight of it last season and even more so this one Fingers crossed our owners can identify and recruit an improvement Is there such a thing as a likeable, attack minded, ball playing Tony pulis ? So you want Tony Pulis but someone who is the exact opposite to him. Very odd. No mate, just being lighthearted. Have a go some time.....it's fun
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Post by werrington on May 11, 2017 11:38:05 GMT
The Johnson contract has no bearing on it. There have been a few signs hes thinking of leaving. In Pulis' last year he kept going on about his record of never having been relegated, FA Cup final, Europa League blah blah blah Hughes has not been as defensive in his reponses as Pulis was but he does keep saying how hard the Premier League is to continually achieve mid-table position. However he does mention they havent matched expectations this season. Hes not exactly banging his own drum the same way Pulis was boasting about his personal cv. Maybe Hughes is just too tired and wants a break from the game? He doesnt look a happy camper thats for sure I saw a headline about Toxic on the Sentnull website where he was saying 'my teams would have finished top ten if...' - didn't bother reading it tbh. Like most with Narcissistic Personality Disorder, deep down he's extremely insecure. If MH goes he goes, at least it'll give the hand wringers their wish and we'll get a break from this constant carping. Mark Hughes never stood a chance mate ...infact whoever took over never stood a chance I can't believe we are now starting threads on hunches they have and not fact or newspaper rumours ....infact the OP stated its posted on another thread so why not answer that instead of all this It's bollocks
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Post by cooper67 on May 11, 2017 12:09:13 GMT
I saw a headline about Toxic on the Sentnull website where he was saying 'my teams would have finished top ten if...' - didn't bother reading it tbh. Like most with Narcissistic Personality Disorder, deep down he's extremely insecure. If MH goes he goes, at least it'll give the hand wringers their wish and we'll get a break from this constant carping. ....infact the OP stated its posted on another thread so why not answer that instead of all this It's bollocks Your grammar is getting worse Werrington! Especially when you get a bit tetchy.
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Post by gonk on May 11, 2017 12:11:53 GMT
Sneaky feeling? We really are in the realms of fantasy now. What do the runes say? Have just thrown the bones down and they say Hughes is staying .Hope this does not upset some people. Attachment Deleted
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Post by alster on May 11, 2017 12:12:39 GMT
I saw a headline about Toxic on the Sentnull website where he was saying 'my teams would have finished top ten if...' - didn't bother reading it tbh. Like most with Narcissistic Personality Disorder, deep down he's extremely insecure. If MH goes he goes, at least it'll give the hand wringers their wish and we'll get a break from this constant carping. Mark Hughes never stood a chance mate ...infact whoever took over never stood a chance I can't believe we are now starting threads on hunches they have and not fact or newspaper rumours ....infact the OP stated its posted on another thread so why not answer that instead of all this It's bollocks 4 seasons never stood a chance. How do you come up with such tripe. very very few people were unhappy with Mark Hughes come the end of his second season. Everything from that point on he's bought on himself.
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Post by Gods on May 11, 2017 12:17:22 GMT
What's the point of this thread? It's not like it isn't being discussed on countless others. people are just posting whatever pops into their head. this place will be UNBEARABLE over the summer (not that I'll be able to stay away - it's one habit I can't seem to break...) 1) Hughes is not going. He won't be sacked and he won't walk. 2) The squad will look different next season, but there will be no radical overhaul. 3) This year will be written off as a blip and we will "go again". If you believe/wish for/have a sneaky feeling about anything else, you're only going to impair your own mental health by going on and on and on about it, because rightly or wrongly, it's not going to happen. All 3 of those statements will come to pass
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Post by kjpt140v on May 11, 2017 12:19:47 GMT
And who would blame him with all the no brains writing shit on here about him.
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Post by alster on May 11, 2017 12:22:45 GMT
And who would blame him with all the no brains writing shit on here about him. What like football fans passing opinion on his football management. You're so dramatic anyone would think people were posting he is a paedophile. Get a grip!
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Post by riccyfuller93 on May 11, 2017 12:26:09 GMT
Shut the door on your way out, there's a good lad.
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Post by lordb on May 11, 2017 12:27:29 GMT
Don't see any signs at all the might quit
Coates has generally backed him in public
two differences to TP last season: Hughes allowed to spend big (for Stoke,peanuts by Prem standards) in Jan window & s/t sales are (by all accounts) not going down/going up/fine
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 11, 2017 12:28:15 GMT
I saw a headline about Toxic on the Sentnull website where he was saying 'my teams would have finished top ten if...' - didn't bother reading it tbh. Like most with Narcissistic Personality Disorder, deep down he's extremely insecure. If MH goes he goes, at least it'll give the hand wringers their wish and we'll get a break from this constant carping. Mark Hughes never stood a chance mate ...infact whoever took over never stood a chance I can't believe we are now starting threads on hunches they have and not fact or newspaper rumours ....infact the OP stated its posted on another thread so why not answer that instead of all this It's bollocks Come on Wez you're better than that post mate😮"Never stood a chance" He's been here 4 seasons and for 2 and half of them he's done an excellent job but the last 18 months have been dreadful and as bad as anything your mate served up in his last season.Its time for change mate in many folks opinion,we need a spark(no pun) from somewhere and the lift a new manager can give the players/crowd next season.The match day experience has died on its arse mate of late imo and it won't come back until something drastic changes.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 11, 2017 12:29:19 GMT
beware of what you wish for. thankfully the oatcake is not representative of stoke city. he has a good relationship with peter coates and that is all what matters. Of course the Oatcake is a representative sample of Stoke City's support it has enough registered users to be a very indicative sample of our overall supporter base. The number of registered users is 100% irrelevant if only about 1% of that total actually post! You could probably name all of the regular posters on here off the top of your head, and it's probably less than 1% of the total number of registered users.....so, no it isn't necessarily representative at all as you have no clue what the view of the other 17,000 registered members are as they don't fucking post. Sincerely hope your day job doesn't involve any kind of statistical analysis mate.
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