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Post by Pugsley on Apr 29, 2017 17:25:49 GMT
Southampton spend more money on footballers than Stoke City yet are on the same points as 'shit' Stoke City. If you want Hughes out, and for me he can go, I'm not bothered, then at least offer a viable alternative. IMO if you don't you're just bleating like supporters we used to despise. I think an appointment like Mancini would really inspire the fans Pugs. Would signal a new direction at the very least. I feel we are a bit directionless at the moment. I know why you are angry it's like we've become Arsenal moaning all the time, but I feel the club is just drifting right now..in the wrong direction I'm not angry. Mancini? I suggested him a while back and got slaughtered. Coates would never go for him, he would be too demanding and would want the kind of money Coates wouldn't entertain. Pearson is who we will get. Maybe Moyes. Man alive, what a thought.
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Post by arnie3010 on Apr 29, 2017 17:26:05 GMT
Everyday i look into this board, i hope there is someone posting a club statement which says that Hughes is fired.
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Post by BuzzB on Apr 29, 2017 17:27:00 GMT
I seriously think that Hughes Should stay and will definitely turn it around. There will be some quality signings in the summer I think Hughes knows where the problems are and will solve them. Go then mate the floor is yours now you are not driving, defend this record from Jan 2015 up until today. P 48 W 15 D 11 L 22 Those wins; Middlesborough Hull x 2 Bournemouth Sunderland x 2 Villa Newcastle Swansea Watford x 3 Burnley W Ham Palace Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/user/736/recent#ixzz4ff0XxQd8
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Post by kustokie on Apr 29, 2017 17:27:31 GMT
I seriously think that Hughes Should stay and will definitely turn it around. There will be some quality signings in the summer I think Hughes knows where the problems are and will solve them. Who are you ? his feckin Mother??? More likely his agent.
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Post by arnie3010 on Apr 29, 2017 17:28:16 GMT
I think an appointment like Mancini would really inspire the fans Pugs. Would signal a new direction at the very least. I feel we are a bit directionless at the moment. I know why you are angry it's like we've become Arsenal moaning all the time, but I feel the club is just drifting right now..in the wrong direction I'm not angry. Mancini? I suggested him a while back and got slaughtered. Coates would never go for him, he would be too demanding and would want the kind of money Coates wouldn't entertain. Pearson is who we will get. Maybe Moyes. Man alive, what a thought. Chris Coleman?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 29, 2017 17:28:33 GMT
I seriously think that Hughes Should stay and will definitely turn it around. There will be some quality signings in the summer I think Hughes knows where the problems are and will solve them. They talked about "personnel" last season and did fuck all. I have zero faith in the lot of them.
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Post by djduncanjames on Apr 29, 2017 17:29:04 GMT
Hard to argue this, it really is , which is so unfortunate I'm not happy about the situation, I like Hughes but his management is baffling Letting him stay would be like asking a Builder to rebuild a Garage that's just fallen down, a garage that said builder built a couple of months ago We're not looking like we've turned a corner, we're progressively doing worse against teams below us and Hughes isn't getting the memo great analogy i work in this type of field, and if went thru 50 million in material without getting the thing built for my client, i think i would be asked to leave the site...
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 29, 2017 17:30:27 GMT
I'm not angry. Mancini? I suggested him a while back and got slaughtered. Coates would never go for him, he would be too demanding and would want the kind of money Coates wouldn't entertain. Pearson is who we will get. Maybe Moyes. Man alive, what a thought. Chris Coleman? Maybe, another disastrous appointment unless he could persuade Gareth Bale to sign for us.
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Post by chuckrocky on Apr 29, 2017 17:31:45 GMT
Don't we have a chief executive on a near seven figure salary who's job it is to find a replacement for Hughes? Why are people so obsessed in saying that you're no allowed to want Hughes out unless you can name an alternative. Southampton never seem to have any problem finding decent managers from abroad. Southampton spend more money on footballers than Stoke City yet are on the same points as 'shit' Stoke City. If you want Hughes out, and for me he can go, I'm not bothered, then at least offer a viable alternative. IMO if you don't you're just bleating like supporters we used to despise. Southampton have had a poor season by their standards, but they've still been to a cup final and played in Europe. I don't think anyone would be disappointed with Silva at Hull, but I honestly think it shouldn't be too hard to find a manager who can get more out of this group of players than the current manager. My point is though that there are people at the club payed vast sums of money to scour the world and find the next man to take us forward, just because some supporters can't give you a name of a replacement doesn't mean they can't ask for a change.
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Post by hoofmagic on Apr 29, 2017 17:32:45 GMT
PEJ was spot on with his remarks,
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Post by hoofmagic on Apr 29, 2017 17:34:52 GMT
LOL
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Post by penkvillepotter on Apr 29, 2017 17:35:40 GMT
Mad Jim stuck up for him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 17:42:44 GMT
Don't we have a chief executive on a near seven figure salary who's job it is to find a replacement for Hughes? Why are people so obsessed in saying that you're no allowed to want Hughes out unless you can name an alternative. Southampton never seem to have any problem finding decent managers from abroad. Southampton spend more money on footballers than Stoke City yet are on the same points as 'shit' Stoke City. If you want Hughes out, and for me he can go, I'm not bothered, then at least offer a viable alternative. IMO if you don't you're just bleating like supporters we used to despise. Utter bollocks mate. Chuckyrocky is spot on with what he is saying. As supporters it's not our job to name a new manager or even suggest one to take over. All I know is that Hughes isn't getting the best out of this squad he's assembled so he need to be replaced, who Coates brings is his decision and while we can all speculate on who he might bring in should Hughes be sacked it isn't necessary for fans to give names of viable alternatives just because they believe the current man isn't up to the job.
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Post by rawli on Apr 29, 2017 17:43:15 GMT
Still keep coming back to the same challenge, who can we get who is better? Not a member of the usual manager merry go round, someone insperational capable of building a team that can defend and score, with Premier League experience. Few and far between. Hughes started well and progressed to being ok, spending a lot of money on the journey backwards. My only offering is Mancini, beyond that I am stuck Mancini would show REAL intent by the club that we mean business in this league An appointment of that calibre would only do great things for bet365 as well That's the problem. We don't mean business in this league. The club is happy to spend the least it can and stay in it. Benitez or Mancini, if they could be persuaded to come would demand top dollar and would want tens of millions to spend. Even given that they would get us 1 or 2 places higher than Hughes has been able to. It's not worth the money to the Coates family.
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Post by stokiedan17 on Apr 29, 2017 17:47:33 GMT
I seriously think that Hughes Should stay and will definitely turn it around. There will be some quality signings in the summer I think Hughes knows where the problems are and will solve them. Go then mate the floor is yours now you are not driving, defend this record from Jan 2015 up until today. P 48 W 15 D 11 L 22 Those wins; Middlesborough Hull x 2 Bournemouth Sunderland x 2 Villa Newcastle Swansea Watford x 3 Burnley W Ham Palace Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/user/736/recent#ixzz4ff0XxQd8Look at the table you've got 8th west brom on 44 pts we are one win and a draw away from that. 7th is Everton on 58pts. That's a massive gap. We haven't taken points off the big sides this season but not many other teams have. The gulf between the rest of the league and the top 7 is huge in terms of money and class. You go into those games hoping to win. Not expecting to win. They go into those games expecting to win. We played Chelsea under mourinho last season where we won when he was having an abysmal season. Man united were playing terrible. Man city knew pelligrini was going to be sacked and that definitely played on players minds you could see that. We took points off of the top teams who were playing bad and that's where our extra points came from leading to 50 odd points and a lot of happiness. This season guardiola has come in found it hard but got a winning mentality at man city some good signings and very hard to beat. Mourinho unbeaten in how many. We have 2 points off of Man U. Tottenham second in the league have been in outstanding form this season. Chelsea new manager conte. League leader nearly double our points says it all. Liverpool have been playing well under klop i thought we were unlucky not to get points from them but that's football. We have beat the teams you would hope to beat below and around us. And dropped points to teams around us as well. We aren't going to win every game of football. Hughes has had a hard job getting the team right this season. I wished it would have been better we all do. But I seriously think there is no better manager than him who can take us forward at this moment in time. Mancini would be the only one I would swap him for. I don't get this love in with marco silva from hull. Signings wise i have no problem with him not playing Imbula. He came in played very well for the latter half of last season then dropped off massively. Either he's not happy in England or his work ethic is just no there. Hughes sees this in training and isn't playing him. Sobhi I wish would play in a three of arnie shaq sobhi but it's not happening At the minute who knows really what's going on there. You don't know. I don't know. Only Hughes knows. But I wouldn't drop arnie or shaq for him. Both can play utter shit but can win us a match with one pass or shot and we can't afford not to play them. If we back Hughes and get 3-4 quality signings. RB, midfielder alongside geoff, bring bojan back and another CAM. And another striker I think he will really push us on. We've got Butland back who I think had he played in some of the games against top teams we may have had more points not knocking grant think he's been absolutely fantastic. But Butland is hands down a better keeper. The defence seem more at ease with Butland and I think muni should be our number one left back with pieters back up.
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Post by djduncanjames on Apr 29, 2017 17:47:41 GMT
Mancini would show REAL intent by the club that we mean business in this league An appointment of that calibre would only do great things for bet365 as well That's the problem. We don't mean business in this league. The club is happy to spend the least it can and stay in it. Benitez or Mancini, if they could be persuaded to come would demand top dollar and would want tens of millions to spend. Even given that they would get us 1 or 2 places higher than Hughes has been able to. It's not worth the money to the Coates family. How depressing mate
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Post by rawli on Apr 29, 2017 17:48:48 GMT
That's the problem. We don't mean business in this league. The club is happy to spend the least it can and stay in it. Benitez or Mancini, if they could be persuaded to come would demand top dollar and would want tens of millions to spend. Even given that they would get us 1 or 2 places higher than Hughes has been able to. It's not worth the money to the Coates family. How depressing mate Sorry to spoil your night.
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Post by walton corner on Apr 29, 2017 17:50:29 GMT
Southampton spend more money on footballers than Stoke City yet are on the same points as 'shit' Stoke City. If you want Hughes out, and for me he can go, I'm not bothered, then at least offer a viable alternative. IMO if you don't you're just bleating like supporters we used to despise. I think an appointment like Mancini would really inspire the fans Pugs. Would signal a new direction at the very least. I feel we are a bit directionless at the moment. I know why you are angry it's like we've become Arsenal moaning all the time, but I feel the club is just drifting right now..in the wrong direction So since Mancini. Left man city what has he done ...infact where is he now
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 29, 2017 17:50:37 GMT
Mancini would show REAL intent by the club that we mean business in this league An appointment of that calibre would only do great things for bet365 as well That's the problem. We don't mean business in this league. The club is happy to spend the least it can and stay in it. Benitez or Mancini, if they could be persuaded to come would demand top dollar and would want tens of millions to spend. Even given that they would get us 1 or 2 places higher than Hughes has been able to. It's not worth the money to the Coates family. It's not rocket science to work it out.
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Post by djduncanjames on Apr 29, 2017 17:50:38 GMT
Mancini would show REAL intent by the club that we mean business in this league An appointment of that calibre would only do great things for bet365 as well That's the problem. We don't mean business in this league. The club is happy to spend the least it can and stay in it. Benitez or Mancini, if they could be persuaded to come would demand top dollar and would want tens of millions to spend. Even given that they would get us 1 or 2 places higher than Hughes has been able to. It's not worth the money to the Coates family. THey aren't cheapskates though look at the Imbula signing
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Post by djduncanjames on Apr 29, 2017 17:51:40 GMT
How depressing mate Sorry to spoil your night. It's not even 2pm yet in Toronto brother
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 29, 2017 17:52:01 GMT
Southampton spend more money on footballers than Stoke City yet are on the same points as 'shit' Stoke City. If you want Hughes out, and for me he can go, I'm not bothered, then at least offer a viable alternative. IMO if you don't you're just bleating like supporters we used to despise. Utter bollocks mate. Chuckyrocky is spot on with what he is saying. As supporters it's not our job to name a new manager or even suggest one to take over. All I know is that Hughes isn't getting the best out of this squad he's assembled so he need to be replaced, who Coates brings is his decision and while we can all speculate on who he might bring in should Hughes be sacked it isn't necessary for fans to give names of viable alternatives just because they believe the current man isn't up to the job. Grow a pair and nail your colours to a mast instead of bleating like a fucking gooner.
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Post by StokieNath on Apr 29, 2017 17:57:10 GMT
He needs to go.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 17:58:53 GMT
Utter bollocks mate. Chuckyrocky is spot on with what he is saying. As supporters it's not our job to name a new manager or even suggest one to take over. All I know is that Hughes isn't getting the best out of this squad he's assembled so he need to be replaced, who Coates brings is his decision and while we can all speculate on who he might bring in should Hughes be sacked it isn't necessary for fans to give names of viable alternatives just because they believe the current man isn't up to the job. Grow a pair and nail your colours to a mast instead of bleating like a fucking gooner. My colours are well and truly nailed to the Hughes out mast and have been for a few months now. Unlike you who still can't make his mind up about our manager. Also it wasn't that long ago since you were bleating on a daily basis she we were under Pulis' stewardship you massive hypocrite.
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Post by BuzzB on Apr 29, 2017 18:00:10 GMT
Go then mate the floor is yours now you are not driving, defend this record from Jan 2015 up until today. P 48 W 15 D 11 L 22 Those wins; Middlesborough Hull x 2 Bournemouth Sunderland x 2 Villa Newcastle Swansea Watford x 3 Burnley W Ham Palace Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/user/736/recent#ixzz4ff0XxQd8Look at the table you've got 8th west brom on 44 pts we are one win and a draw away from that. 7th is Everton on 58pts. That's a massive gap. We haven't taken points off the big sides this season but not many other teams have. The gulf between the rest of the league and the top 7 is huge in terms of money and class. You go into those games hoping to win. Not expecting to win. They go into those games expecting to win. We played Chelsea under mourinho last season where we won when he was having an abysmal season. Man united were playing terrible. Man city knew pelligrini was going to be sacked and that definitely played on players minds you could see that. We took points off of the top teams who were playing bad and that's where our extra points came from leading to 50 odd points and a lot of happiness. This season guardiola has come in found it hard but got a winning mentality at man city some good signings and very hard to beat. Mourinho unbeaten in how many. We have 2 points off of Man U. Tottenham second in the league have been in outstanding form this season. Chelsea new manager conte. League leader nearly double our points says it all. Liverpool have been playing well under klop i thought we were unlucky not to get points from them but that's football. We have beat the teams you would hope to beat below and around us. And dropped points to teams around us as well. We aren't going to win every game of football. Hughes has had a hard job getting the team right this season. I wished it would have been better we all do. But I seriously think there is no better manager than him who can take us forward at this moment in time. Mancini would be the only one I would swap him for. I don't get this love in with marco silva from hull. Signings wise i have no problem with him not playing Imbula. He came in played very well for the latter half of last season then dropped off massively. Either he's not happy in England or his work ethic is just no there. Hughes sees this in training and isn't playing him. Sobhi I wish would play in a three of arnie shaq sobhi but it's not happening At the minute who knows really what's going on there. You don't know. I don't know. Only Hughes knows. But I wouldn't drop arnie or shaq for him. Both can play utter shit but can win us a match with one pass or shot and we can't afford not to play them. If we back Hughes and get 3-4 quality signings. RB, midfielder alongside geoff, bring bojan back and another CAM. And another striker I think he will really push us on. We've got Butland back who I think had he played in some of the games against top teams we may have had more points not knocking grant think he's been absolutely fantastic. But Butland is hands down a better keeper. The defence seem more at ease with Butland and I think muni should be our number one left back with pieters back up. Alot of good points mate and well put, well written. Does not however mask the performances of late, he is uncapable of motivating this lot for some reason. I can take losing against a good Man City or a top quality Spurs IF the effort and commitment is shown, which clearly its not! We amble through too many games, today for example was like a training session. I give up trying to get my point across, not just on here but with people I speak to wherever, its dross and with the quality of the squad it shouldn't be, a new face could get this lot organised and playing to their potential, now that could get good!!
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Post by VolvicStokie on Apr 29, 2017 18:01:06 GMT
I highly doubt Mancini would be tempted.
Yes we've got money but we're Stoke City. Be realistic lads.
If Hull go down we should go for Silva.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 29, 2017 18:04:06 GMT
Grow a pair and nail your colours to a mast instead of bleating like a fucking gooner. My colours are well and truly nailed to the Hughes out mast and have been for a few months now. Unlike you who still can't make his mind up about our manager. Also it wasn't that long ago since you were bleating on a daily basis she we were under Pulis' stewardship you massive hypocrite. I've been saying for over a month he can go for me. Yes, I wanted Pulis out and I put forward a viable alternative who got the job and improved us despite minimal initial investment. Now it's time for another change as he appears to have lost the plot. Give us a name.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 18:08:22 GMT
My colours are well and truly nailed to the Hughes out mast and have been for a few months now. Unlike you who still can't make his mind up about our manager. Also it wasn't that long ago since you were bleating on a daily basis she we were under Pulis' stewardship you massive hypocrite. I've been saying for over a month he can go for me. Yes, I wanted Pulis out and I put forward a viable alternative who got the job and improved us despite minimal initial investment. Now it's time for another change as he appears to have lost the plot. Give us a name. It seems like you suffer from memory loss as well as being a hypocrite.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 29, 2017 18:09:06 GMT
I've been saying for over a month he can go for me. Yes, I wanted Pulis out and I put forward a viable alternative who got the job and improved us despite minimal initial investment. Now it's time for another change as he appears to have lost the plot. Give us a name. It seems like you suffer from memory loss as well as being a hypocrite. Give us a name.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 18:09:34 GMT
My colours are well and truly nailed to the Hughes out mast and have been for a few months now. Unlike you who still can't make his mind up about our manager. Also it wasn't that long ago since you were bleating on a daily basis she we were under Pulis' stewardship you massive hypocrite. I've been saying for over a month he can go for me. Yes, I wanted Pulis out and I put forward a viable alternative who got the job and improved us despite minimal initial investment. Now it's time for another change as he appears to have lost the plot. Give us a name. It's not the job of the fans to suggest replacements. It's the job of the board to select a new manager if the see fit to get rid of Hughes. Why are people so obsessed with fans suggesting a successor? Just because they don't, does it make their opinion less valid?
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