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Post by iglugluk on Apr 12, 2017 15:43:13 GMT
I'd be very surprised if this is true but who knows with our current manager and transfer team. :/
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Apr 12, 2017 15:52:37 GMT
I can't believe some fans are so quick and flippant to sell a player who has shown nothing but loyalty to this club. Ryan has been a servant to this club, and can quite rightly be considered a legend. No he hasn't had the best of seasons, but the club and fans should replicate the loyalty he has shown to us. And I am sure in time Ryan can re-find his form. Thats football and business though isnt it? He is not the player he was, he seems to have lost a bit of pace, he will be 30 in october, so this may be his penultimate big contract? And Newcastle are a massive club, and if Rafa massages his ego with talk of building a defence/team around him then I could see him being interested. I know I would!
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Post by sharonbeech21 on Apr 12, 2017 15:54:59 GMT
We could see a total collapse of the team this summer. I hope we keep Shawcross with Bruno if hopefully he signs for us. There is bound to be interest in Arnie and Shaqiri.I hope we can hang on to our best players
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 12, 2017 16:02:29 GMT
I'd be very surprised if this is true but who knows with our current manager and transfer team. :/ How the club would sell it Christ only knows. This would just antagonise already perturbed fans. It has to be total bollocks but they have questions to answer about his contract now either way.
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Post by sharonbeech21 on Apr 12, 2017 16:10:58 GMT
I would like Ryan to stay and finish his career with us. He has been a great servant to us and showed great loyalty. The club should start contract talks with him now to show their loyalty to him
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 16:13:17 GMT
A lot of people saying he's not the same player since his injury. I think there have been signs this last couple of months he's recovering that form. It would be stupidity of the highest order to sell Ryan as he wouldn't generate a high transfer fee anyway. He has been the absolute bedrock of Stoke these past 8 years and when he does leave for whatever reason the club will be poorer for it. I remember us selling another bedrock centre half. He is playing in the quarter finals of the Champion's league tonight for the premier league champions! Nothing would surprise me with the current regime. Our transfer dealings are shambolic.
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Post by nott1 on Apr 12, 2017 16:27:25 GMT
They all have a price if the offer is big enough!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 16:33:47 GMT
Ryan will defo NOT leave he is Mr Stoke City and well on his way to becoming a Stoke legend.
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Post by nott1 on Apr 12, 2017 16:35:17 GMT
Straight swap, Shawcross for Benitez... No need for Ryan to go if we got Benitez!
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Post by mozalini on Apr 12, 2017 16:45:01 GMT
I can't believe some fans are so quick and flippant to sell a player who has shown nothing but loyalty to this club. Ryan has been a servant to this club, and can quite rightly be considered a legend. No he hasn't had the best of seasons, but the club and fans should replicate the loyalty he has shown to us. And I am sure in time Ryan can re-find his form. Thats football and business though isnt it? He is not the player he was, he seems to have lost a bit of pace, he will be 30 in october, so this may be his penultimate big contract? And Newcastle are a massive club, and if Rafa massages his ego with talk of building a defence/team around him then I could see him being interested. I know I would! To me it doesn't make any footballing or business sense to sell your captain, longest-serving stalwart, and arguably best defender. Other Premier League defenders have proven that it is possible to play at the top level way into your thirties. In a league full of mercenaries, Ryan is the real deal, and has proven time and time again that he is a Stoke legend. I believe it would also be dangerous to the stability of the club to sell the likes of Shawcross, Whelan, and Walters, in a single window. History has shown that plenty of teams in the Premier League with good squads have been relegated because they lack dependable, committed, and loyal players like the above. When the going gets tough these are the players you know will give you everything. That's not to say there isn't a place for players like Bojan, Shaqiri either - teams and squads need balance. If Stoke don't offer Ryan a contract extension, he has every right to go to Newcastle, and I would wish him the best of luck. But I couldn't think of anyone who deserves one more at the club. Most footballers have to retire before they reach the iconic and cult status he has reached during his career.
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Apr 12, 2017 16:49:51 GMT
If people are going to start adding ryan to the already ridiculously long list of "must go" players, they genuinely need their fucking heads looking at.
If we got rid of every fucker that some have said have to go, we would be starting the season with a squad of about fucking 10... if we secure bruno's signature.
Fuck may.
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Post by gingerninja on Apr 12, 2017 16:51:37 GMT
I think Cilla alluded in a post around the January transfer window that the summer would see us say goodbye to some popular faces. Maybe Shawcross may be one of them?
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Apr 12, 2017 16:55:36 GMT
Sell him and use the money to sign harry Maguire, job done. Bruno is now our no1 centre half, make him captain too. Harry Maguire....the name puts me in mind of some old cockney gangster, Harry "the hat" Maguire!!!
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Apr 12, 2017 17:02:19 GMT
The high paid executives need to get a grip. Round each others necks.
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Post by rawli on Apr 12, 2017 17:02:32 GMT
CAPTAIN. LEADER. LEGEND Nuff said Please don't sully Ryan by using that wanker's banner.
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Post by Miles Offside on Apr 12, 2017 17:22:33 GMT
Rafa is a top manager and, in the unlikely event we could prise him away from Newcastle, he'd be perfect for us.
That should be the only way he gets to work with Ryan.
Hughes played a major part in destabilising Ryan's game by splitting up his partnership with Huth.
The best top-level CB partnership we've had since Smith & Bloor was destroyed by the attempt to introduce a "footballing" partner for Ryan - first Wollscheid, then Muniesa, before realising what a disaster that was and eventually reverting to a proper defender in Bruno.
We all know that Ryan's game was affected by his injury, but he's still easily one of the best CBs outside the top six.
The other feature that has undermined his game - and for which Hughes is responsible - has been the lack of two proper DMs in the 4-2-3-1 system. Time and again the opposition have just run past our midfield leaving our CBs as the first, instead of the last, line of defence.
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Post by fig on Apr 12, 2017 17:26:16 GMT
It's a sort of unwritten rule amongst real Stokies.
Ryan Shawcross can do what he likes.
Stay or go, he's up there with Denis Smith.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 12, 2017 17:27:18 GMT
You do wonder if the reputed ‘match the top earner’ clause in his contract is a sticking point? At his age he would want a minimum of 3 years on the same terms I’d imagine. He nowhere near deserves that kind of contract.
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Post by fig on Apr 12, 2017 17:32:04 GMT
You do wonder if the reputed ‘match the top earner’ clause in his contract is a sticking point? At his age he would want a minimum of 3 years on the same terms I’d imagine. He nowhere near deserves that kind of contract. I know you go to matches, but do you ever watch them? I think you just do the match thing and bypass the football thing. It shows in your posts. Well, it does to me...because I know football as a game, not a Satdee afternoon routine or summat do.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 12, 2017 17:33:15 GMT
You do wonder if the reputed ‘match the top earner’ clause in his contract is a sticking point? At his age he would want a minimum of 3 years on the same terms I’d imagine. He nowhere near deserves that kind of contract. It's his last big contract though isn't it. He isn't going to want a reduction in terms you wouldn't have thought if there was genuine interest from elsewhere. At 29 he isn't going to sign a contract less than 3 years with no guarantees is he?
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Post by stokienorthants on Apr 12, 2017 17:47:40 GMT
I can't believe some fans are so quick and flippant to sell a player who has shown nothing but loyalty to this club. Ryan has been a servant to this club, and can quite rightly be considered a legend. No he hasn't had the best of seasons, but the club and fans should replicate the loyalty he has shown to us. And I am sure in time Ryan can re-find his form. I can't believe some fans are so naive to believe that multi millionaire footballers can ever be classed as servants to ours or any other football club.
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Post by mozalini on Apr 12, 2017 18:01:26 GMT
I can't believe some fans are so quick and flippant to sell a player who has shown nothing but loyalty to this club. Ryan has been a servant to this club, and can quite rightly be considered a legend. No he hasn't had the best of seasons, but the club and fans should replicate the loyalty he has shown to us. And I am sure in time Ryan can re-find his form. I can't believe some fans are so naive to believe that multi millionaire footballers can ever be classed as servants to ours or any other football club. The excessive wages Ryan and other Premier League football players earn are an unfortunate fact of current economic structures and relations of society; however, I don't see how this diminishes the nine years of loyalty and commitment Ryan has shown to this club. He could have chosen any club to earn vast amounts of money playing for, but he didn't, he chose ours, and has never wavered from giving everything he's got.
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 12, 2017 18:07:27 GMT
Every player has a price including Ryan That's true but for a player entering the last year of his deal with an attractive offer elsewhere, often his price is significantly lower than his value. There's not going to be a bidding war. Know what you saying a bit like the zonz affair
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Post by DentySCFC on Apr 12, 2017 18:08:27 GMT
Sell him and we're going down next season.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 12, 2017 18:11:41 GMT
Let him go and build our team around Bruno Utterly, utterly bizarre. Totally nuts, in fact.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 12, 2017 18:13:19 GMT
Sell him and use the money to sign harry Maguire, job done. Bruno is now our no1 centre half, make him captain too. Is everyone 100% confident he'll be signing? I'm certainly not And as much as I'm really pleased with Bruno. He still ain't as good as Ryan.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 12, 2017 18:16:51 GMT
He nowhere near deserves that kind of contract. I know you go to matches, but do you ever watch them? I think you just do the match thing and bypass the football thing. It shows in your posts. Well, it does to me...because I know football as a game, not a Satdee afternoon routine or summat do. Pipe down sonny, I like Ryan but the club shouldn't be tied to that kind of deal. It's ridiculous.
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Post by chad on Apr 12, 2017 18:18:50 GMT
You do wonder if the reputed ‘match the top earner’ clause in his contract is a sticking point? At his age he would want a minimum of 3 years on the same terms I’d imagine. He nowhere near deserves that kind of contract. Yes he does He's been a Rock for nearly 10 years and he's easily got three good years left
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 12, 2017 18:20:20 GMT
He nowhere near deserves that kind of contract. Yes he does He's been a Rock for nearly 10 years and he's easily got three good years left Not linked to the highest earner though. No way.
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Post by chad on Apr 12, 2017 18:27:31 GMT
Yes he does He's been a Rock for nearly 10 years and he's easily got three good years left Not linked to the highest earner though. No way. What. So you think Imbula deserved more pay than Ryan ????
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