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Post by gingerninja on Mar 6, 2017 14:45:33 GMT
Strange to read in the Italian press that Stoke might be looking at a foreign coach next.. I know Coates is very pro British so maybe if he were to stand down his siblings might be more inclined to take that route?. Personally I would stick with him. Yes we appear to have stagnated but let him have a clear out this summer and rebuild a hopefully more vibrant side.
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Post by skip on Mar 6, 2017 14:46:34 GMT
I'd like him to stay. The radical option.
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Post by muglump on Mar 6, 2017 14:52:35 GMT
I think he will and that's a good thing. He has his faults but we are getting slowly better i think. A couple of transfers have gone tits up and his subs can be a little odd but on the whole 8/10 which is a good mark for any football manager
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Mar 6, 2017 14:53:16 GMT
Hopefully not, sooner he fucks off the better.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 6, 2017 14:54:02 GMT
It'd take an astonishing turn of events for him not to be.
And rightly so
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 14:54:34 GMT
I think he'll stay. I also think he's taken us as far as he can.
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Post by heworksardtho on Mar 6, 2017 15:00:56 GMT
Course he will he's just earned PC anlther 100 million plus off sky for next season , who wouldn't keep him on
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Post by jwhpotter on Mar 6, 2017 15:04:57 GMT
He still seems to be able to attract big name players (doesn't mean they do the job) but high profile nonetheless. I've never really liked the guy but there's no way Coatesy will get rid
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Post by alster on Mar 6, 2017 15:05:03 GMT
I think he'll stay. I also think he's taken us as far as he can. When was that though. If it was battering Liverpool or out playing Man City or Utd I'll take that forever and a day if you mean Charlie Adam twatting it up the park toward Crouch he needs fucking off. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Mar 6, 2017 15:09:52 GMT
Very much on the fence when it comes to Hughes as I think we can potentially do better than we are but also saying that, I have no worries about being in a relegation battle either. Think Pete will give him another season at least BUT our recruitment needs to be a lot better this summer, especially when it comes to spending big.
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Post by metalhead on Mar 6, 2017 15:10:10 GMT
I think he'll stay. I also think he's taken us as far as he can. What I would like, is for him to get someone new in the backroom staff to give an alternative opinion. I do wonder how much Mark Bowen says "no". |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 15:10:58 GMT
Hopefully he'll still be here. We saw on Saturday what a difference one player (Cameron) can make to the fluidity of the team. If we can get in the right defensive midfielder them a couple of improvements elsewhere, things could look a lot healthier next season, particularly with the emergence of Ramadan and the return of Butland.
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Post by redstriper on Mar 6, 2017 15:11:38 GMT
Of course he'll stay, and...
He's going to buy pacey, super fit full backs so we can beat spurs
Jack is going to return as brilliant as ever
Gcam and muni will seasons to remember
our front six (arni, sobhi, bera, aff, bojan or allen, and shaq) will prove interchangeable playing half a match at a time each, and impossible to contain
and we will win something.
The future is bright.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 15:11:54 GMT
I think he will leave by mutual consent, preserving dignity on all sides, I am neither a hater or a lover of his, for me the club is bigger than Hughes, Coates, and anyone, apart from maybe Benjaminbiscuit.
Joking apart, I think everyone knows from the top to the bottom that a change is inevitable, and for me, the sooner the better, and with no fuss, no acrimony and no bitterness, bit like when the capped one left.
Who to bring in...Well...That's for another debate, and can only really be thought about when the inevitable happens, and we see who is available, and who fits into our plan moving forward.
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Post by alster on Mar 6, 2017 15:26:08 GMT
I think he will leave by mutual consent, preserving dignity on all sides, I am neither a hater or a lover of his, for me the club is bigger than Hughes, Coates, and anyone, apart from maybe Benjaminbiscuit. Joking apart, I think everyone knows from the top to the bottom that a change is inevitable, and for me, the sooner the better, and with no fuss, no acrimony and no bitterness, bit like when the capped one left. Who to bring in...Well...That's for another debate, and can only really be thought about when the inevitable happens, and we see who is available, and who fits into our plan moving forward. No thanks. I know it might be devious, underhand, disrespectful but have an appointment secured before you let an adequate manager leave. |
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Post by nott1 on Mar 6, 2017 15:28:39 GMT
I'll repeat my words about Pulis "He's going nowhere".........oh!
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Post by peterthornesboots on Mar 6, 2017 15:31:19 GMT
There's no if's but's or maybe's - he will be here next season.
I have no problems with that, although he needs to have a very good summer to sort out some of our issues!
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Post by stokief on Mar 6, 2017 15:31:39 GMT
I somehow feel there may be a little writing beginning to appear on the wall. First, Mr C lets rip on the Spurs debcale. Not something he seems prone to do but I still think he has every right to pass comment. Secondly, I read some comments made by MH in one of the papers last week where he seemed to insinuate that unlike Everton for example  , we were never going to really splash the cash to 'push on' any further. Strikes me that this is a kind of poor retaliation excuse as we are currently experiencing a hard to keep fit £12 million signing and an £18 mill potential flop.Plus waving goodbye to Joselu, Wolly and Bojjers. Not sure I would be giving him £25 mill a pop willynilly  Anyway, I think that the Coates family maybe have more ambition than he's giving them credit for but are possibly having doubts that he is the guy to be given financial backing to go the next step. We are not in the league of the Chelsea/Man Utd/ Man City spending power but I'm guessing that we could have the potential to go a bit further. I'm a little indifferent to him myself and I guess always have been. No body can deny that it's pretty reasonable to have another top ten finish (should we do so)if we dont I definitely think there will be a change. AS much as I thanked TP for what he'd achieved there was the inevitability of his departure.I cant help feeling whether it's the Board's or his own choice there could be a change around the corner and it would not surprise me to see a foreign manager as British decent ones are thin on the ground. I believe little 'ole Stoke may have a little more pulling power now that some, including Mark give us credit for. |
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Mar 6, 2017 15:33:36 GMT
100% he will be here. The summer will be a testing one....he needs to get rid of a lot of deadwood and bring in 3-4 signings that are younger and far more mobile than we presently have!! Starting at dm and rb and lb.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 6, 2017 15:53:41 GMT
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Post by flinteastwood on Mar 6, 2017 16:19:06 GMT
he will be here for 2 more years minimum Coates wont sack him he'll wait for the contract to run out but as long as he continues to fight for top ten and never gets us into any relegation worries in the next 2 years id offer him an extension to his contract to stay longer.
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 6, 2017 16:21:38 GMT
I'm all for change if the right bloke comes in. If not I'm happy for him to carry on, mainly because it pisses off the moaning know it alls on here.
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Post by skemstokie on Mar 6, 2017 16:22:17 GMT
Hopefully he'll still be here. We saw on Saturday what a difference one player (Cameron) can make to the fluidity of the team. If we can get in the right defensive midfielder them a couple of improvements elsewhere, things could look a lot healthier next season, particularly with the emergence of Ramadan and the return of Butland. We have mixed Cameron  |
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Post by Gods on Mar 6, 2017 16:31:31 GMT
Sorry to be thick but was that it reply to a specific question on the matter? Otherwise I'm not sure why he would feel the need to comment at all. But equally I'm not sure anyone would dare ask after he has just presided over the first 3 consecutive top half finishes in our long history and maybe heading for a 4th, it would just sound like a preposterous question, the musings of a mad man  In any case Peter Coates is coming up to 80 next birthday, I don't think he would take well at this late life stage to some Pedro banging on at him in Spanglish, I'm pretty sure Welsh is about as exotic as Mr. Coates is willing to get  |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 6, 2017 16:32:44 GMT
Sorry to be thick but was that it reply to a specific question on the matter? Otherwise I'm not sure why he would feel the need to comment at all. But equally I'm not sure anyone would dare ask after he has just presided over the first 3 consecutive top half finishes in our long history and maybe heading for a 4th, it would just sound like a preposterous question Even if you don't buy that argument Peter Coates is coming up to 80 next birthday, I don't think he would take well to some Pedro banging on at him in Spanglish, I suspect Welsh is about as exotic as Mr. Coates is willing to get Not sure tbh mate,I just looked at the twitter feed |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 16:41:38 GMT
I'm not against a new manager but it would have to be a relatively stunning appointment that represents ambition to progress to the next level, which is to become a leading club just outside the top 6 with not unreasonable hopes of occasionally breaking into that top 6. And to become a club that regularly competes in The Europa League.
For all Hughes' faults he's still a pretty decent manager. This season is a bit of a write off but there's reasons to be excited for next year such as the emergence of Ramadan, the return of Butland who was making headlines across the world before his injury (Grant has done amazingly well this year and I hope he wins POTS but he's not in Butland's class, that's just a fact) and the prospect of moving on a few players and injecting the team with a shot of high-quality young, hungry blood.
I think Hughes will still be here and I have faith that next season will be a crystal clear improvement.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 6, 2017 16:42:48 GMT
He can be frustrating but
1 - we don't go to training.
2 - we don't know how much input he has on transfers.
3 - he's had a lot of bad luck with injuries.
4 - we don't know the players personally or what issues they have.
But one things for sure and that is that he's got us 3 x 9th place finishes and has on the whole done well.
What I would say though is he needs to be told what we need and that there will not be funds freed up for any more no. 10s or box to box midfielders.
So for me he needs to stay but be told things need to change.
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Post by tuum on Mar 6, 2017 16:48:11 GMT
100% he will be here. The summer will be a testing one....he needs to get rid of a lot of deadwood and bring in 3-4 signings that are younger and far more mobile than we presently have!! Starting at dm and rb and lb. Full backs will not be so high on the agenda but we need to bring in at least one who will be a clear first team regular. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 6, 2017 16:49:28 GMT
Like FM says above, it would take a remarkable turn of events to see Hughes go. It would virtually re-write the rules on what a sacking offence is and the pressure on the new bloke would be virtually unbearable. Even if we get over 50 points this season, it would be very hard to argue we were progressing and the regularity of our four goal spuddings is absolutely maddening but it’s about as far away from a sacking offence as its possible to get.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 16:52:39 GMT
I would be all for replacing Hughes PROVIDED that the new manager produces better results. That would mean AT LEAST 8th place finishes for at least three years and hopefully better than that. Cup runs also required.
Only a moron would expect something like that to happen.
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, we were never going to really splash the cash to 'push on' any further. Strikes me that this is a kind of poor retaliation excuse as we are currently experiencing a hard to keep fit £12 million signing and an £18 mill potential flop.Plus waving goodbye to Joselu, Wolly and Bojjers. Not sure I would be giving him £25 mill a pop willynilly 
Anyway, I think that the Coates family maybe have more ambition than he's giving them credit for but are possibly having doubts that he is the guy to be given financial backing to go the next step. We are not in the league of the Chelsea/Man Utd/ Man City spending power but I'm guessing that we could have the potential to go a bit further. I'm a little indifferent to him myself and I guess always have been. No body can deny that it's pretty reasonable to have another top ten finish (should we do so)if we dont I definitely think there will be a change. AS much as I thanked TP for what he'd achieved there was the inevitability of his departure.I cant help feeling whether it's the Board's or his own choice there could be a change around the corner and it would not surprise me to see a foreign manager as British decent ones are thin on the ground. I believe little 'ole Stoke may have a little more pulling power now that some, including Mark give us credit for.
