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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 3, 2017 9:04:27 GMT
How many weeks out is this for Shaq now?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 9:08:43 GMT
Fuck him off. Lightweight.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 9:09:38 GMT
How many weeks out is this for Shaq now? He's probably seen the weather forecast and doesn't fancy it. Might be a bit unfair that but it's amazing how some players always seem to be sidelined by relatively minor injuries and others play regardless.....
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Mar 3, 2017 9:54:32 GMT
He would fit in really well with those calcium lacking cunts at Arsenal.
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Post by stantheman on Mar 3, 2017 9:57:16 GMT
Ramadan is a better team player. Add the Albanian dwarf to the for sale list with Imbula
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 3, 2017 10:01:26 GMT
I'm sure I heard he was pencilled in for the Tottingham game but told Hughes the day before that his calf was a bit tight so he wasn't included. I don't know how true that is but that sounds like a little niggle which should be right in a couple of days. Is this the same niggle or a different niggle? I have to say I've lost all patience with the bloke. Even if Shaqiri's fit Sobhi should start.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 3, 2017 10:04:04 GMT
He has to be one going out of the exit door in the Summer surely? Ridiculously frustrating.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 3, 2017 10:06:24 GMT
I don't think it's a particularly controversial statement to suggest we should be moving on from him in the summer.
Can't afford the outlay for someone who misses a third of the games every season with niggles.
As with Imbula though, trying to think of the kind of clubs who'd have the desire and cash to get him is reasonably hard. 3 more years at 70k is a tough ask to match for most clubs.
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Post by alster on Mar 3, 2017 10:07:56 GMT
I'm sure I heard he was pencilled in for the Tottingham game but told Hughes the day before that his calf was a bit tight so he wasn't included. I don't know how true that is but that sounds like a little niggle which should be right in a couple of days. Is this the same niggle or a different niggle? I have to say I've lost all patience with the bloke. Even if Shaqiri's fit Sobhi should start. They should both start if fit Shaq in the 10 Allen deeper Ramadan wide.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 3, 2017 10:10:27 GMT
I'm sure I heard he was pencilled in for the Tottingham game but told Hughes the day before that his calf was a bit tight so he wasn't included. I don't know how true that is but that sounds like a little niggle which should be right in a couple of days. Is this the same niggle or a different niggle? I have to say I've lost all patience with the bloke. Even if Shaqiri's fit Sobhi should start. They should both start if fit Shaq in the 10 Allen deeper Ramadan wide. you're right but I was just assuming it would be a straight choice.
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Post by Ex-term-oat-cake on Mar 3, 2017 10:10:45 GMT
This
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Post by alster on Mar 3, 2017 10:17:09 GMT
I don't think it's a particularly controversial statement to suggest we should be moving on from him in the summer. Can't afford the outlay for someone who misses a third of the games every season with niggles. As with Imbula though, trying to think of the kind of clubs who'd have the desire and cash to get him is reasonably hard. 3 more years at 70k is a tough ask to match for most clubs. I think its pretty controversial, without Shaq's contribution this season we could well be in a relegation scrap. I'm not satisfied with his injury record either but why not highlight others who contribute fuck all whether injured, fit or on the pitch.
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Post by mattface on Mar 3, 2017 10:20:23 GMT
Very much this Allen - Cameron Sobhi - Shaq - Arnie Anyone who can hit a cows arse
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Post by alster on Mar 3, 2017 10:20:28 GMT
They should both start if fit Shaq in the 10 Allen deeper Ramadan wide. you're right but I was just assuming it would be a straight choice. Therefore you expect the ridiculous situation with Allen as the most advanced midfielder to continue
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 3, 2017 10:24:07 GMT
It's fair to say that the transfers for the 2015/16 are shitfest on the whole. I wouldn't label a single one a success.
Philipp Wollscheid Jakob Haugaard Joselu Shay Given Glen Johnson Moha Dom Telford Mark Waddington Ibrahim Afellay Sergio Molina Xherdan Shaqiri Giannelli Imbula
EDIT- How could I forget Marco Van Ginkel?
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 3, 2017 10:24:59 GMT
you're right but I was just assuming it would be a straight choice. Therefore you expect the ridiculous situation with Allen as the most advanced midfielder to continue Yes.
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Post by juiceandbits on Mar 3, 2017 10:37:55 GMT
I don't think it's a particularly controversial statement to suggest we should be moving on from him in the summer. Can't afford the outlay for someone who misses a third of the games every season with niggles. As with Imbula though, trying to think of the kind of clubs who'd have the desire and cash to get him is reasonably hard. 3 more years at 70k is a tough ask to match for most clubs. Can't really argue with this but it's still immensely frustrating because I think he has abilities that no-one else in the squad does, namely his ability to play people in regularly and generally be involved in chance creation.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 3, 2017 10:52:46 GMT
I don't think it's a particularly controversial statement to suggest we should be moving on from him in the summer. Can't afford the outlay for someone who misses a third of the games every season with niggles. As with Imbula though, trying to think of the kind of clubs who'd have the desire and cash to get him is reasonably hard. 3 more years at 70k is a tough ask to match for most clubs. Can't really argue with this but it's still immensely frustrating because I think he has abilities that no-one else in the squad does, namely his ability to play people in regularly and generally be involved in chance creation. Yeah - very frustrating as he really balances the team up when he's in a groove of playing matches consistently. But last season he missed 9 and hobbled off in 3 of the 36 he was available for. And tomorrow will be the 13th he's missed from 27. We're paying him to be the main man and his injury record doesn't allow him to really be that person. I'd definitely like to see him have a go as the No.10 though.
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 3, 2017 10:57:15 GMT
I don't think it's a particularly controversial statement to suggest we should be moving on from him in the summer. Can't afford the outlay for someone who misses a third of the games every season with niggles. As with Imbula though, trying to think of the kind of clubs who'd have the desire and cash to get him is reasonably hard. 3 more years at 70k is a tough ask to match for most clubs. Can't really argue with this but it's still immensely frustrating because I think he has abilities that no-one else in the squad does, namely his ability to play people in regularly and generally be involved in chance creation. Yes. His goals at Hull were brilliant, but his passing was also top draw and deserved to yield more goals.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 3, 2017 11:07:52 GMT
I don't think it's a particularly controversial statement to suggest we should be moving on from him in the summer. Can't afford the outlay for someone who misses a third of the games every season with niggles. As with Imbula though, trying to think of the kind of clubs who'd have the desire and cash to get him is reasonably hard. 3 more years at 70k is a tough ask to match for most clubs. I think its pretty controversial, without Shaq's contribution this season we could well be in a relegation scrap. I'm not satisfied with his injury record either but why not highlight others who contribute fuck all whether injured, fit or on the pitch. Sorry mate but what contribution is it you talk aboutš¤Hull away?
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Post by Clayton Wood on Mar 3, 2017 11:17:41 GMT
Probably been told Ramadan starts so his niggle has returned to save face being on the bench?
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Post by jimmygscfc on Mar 3, 2017 11:24:22 GMT
Probably been told Ramadan starts so his niggle has returned to save face being on the bench? When does a niggle become a more significant injury?
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 3, 2017 11:25:45 GMT
Probably been told Ramadan starts so his niggle has returned to save face being on the bench? When does a niggle become a more significant injury? When it's at Stoke.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Mar 3, 2017 11:26:34 GMT
Probably been told Ramadan starts so his niggle has returned to save face being on the bench? When does a niggle become a more significant injury? When Ramadan is consistently picked before him?
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Post by alster on Mar 3, 2017 11:30:02 GMT
I think its pretty controversial, without Shaq's contribution this season we could well be in a relegation scrap. I'm not satisfied with his injury record either but why not highlight others who contribute fuck all whether injured, fit or on the pitch. Sorry mate but what contribution is it you talk aboutš¤Hull away? What can I say if thats how you see it, as I see it when he's been fit he's made major contributions in several games that we have got something out of and our play is far far better with him than without him. You obviously see things differently and focus on a player who has not been available for selection far too often and admittedly been a bit of a passenger in some of our defeats to bigger teams. Each to his own I suppose, whats Affelays contribution been exactly other than coming in and looking tidy in centre mid with no end product and failing to play in N'Goy and Berahino who were in better positions on two occasions I can specifically think of.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 3, 2017 11:40:24 GMT
Sorry mate but what contribution is it you talk aboutš¤Hull away? What can I say if thats how you see it, as I see it when he's been fit he's made major contributions in several games that we have got something out of and our play is far far better with him than without him. You obviously see things differently and focus on a player who has not been available for selection far too often and admittedly been a bit of a passenger in some of our defeats to bigger teams. Each to his own I suppose, whats Affelays contribution been exactly other than coming in and looking tidy in centre mid with no end product and failing to play in N'Goy and Berahino who were in better positions on two occasions I can specifically think of. This probably backs your thoughts up mate but I just don't see it and like you say it's all about opinions
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Post by alster on Mar 3, 2017 11:55:15 GMT
What can I say if thats how you see it, as I see it when he's been fit he's made major contributions in several games that we have got something out of and our play is far far better with him than without him. You obviously see things differently and focus on a player who has not been available for selection far too often and admittedly been a bit of a passenger in some of our defeats to bigger teams. Each to his own I suppose, whats Affelays contribution been exactly other than coming in and looking tidy in centre mid with no end product and failing to play in N'Goy and Berahino who were in better positions on two occasions I can specifically think of. This probably backs your thoughts up mate but I just don't see it and like you say it's all about opinions Does sort of confirm what I thought I think he's been central to most of the good stuff (not that theres been too much of it anyway) that we have done this season. I think we're a much worse team without him even though I can see why he gets the negative reactions he does. This fitness issue is really getting on my tits and its unarguable that he disappears in games where we're under the cosh. Overall he's a bit of a show pony but a relatively effective one. Him and Arnie are the sort of players I go to watch football because of. I see the necessity but not the attraction to watching someone work their gonads off.
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Post by eatfood10 on Mar 3, 2017 12:09:08 GMT
It's fair to say that the transfers for the 2015/16 are shitfest on the whole. I wouldn't label a single one a success. Philipp Wollscheid Jakob Haugaard Joselu Shay Given Glen Johnson Moha Dom Telford Mark Waddington Ibrahim Afellay Sergio Molina Xherdan Shaqiri Giannelli Imbula EDIT- How could I forget Marco Van Ginkel? You wouldn't label Afellay a success? Yes, a few long term injuries, but much prefer how we look with him in the side, such a good, versatile player - on a free transfer too! Could also make arguments for Johnson and Shaq. Imbula frustrates me - looks so good at times, optimistically I want to see him stay and fulfill his potential, realistically he's off. Don't get me wrong, looking at that list is pretty depressing - particularly given the initial excitement of signing some of these players. Back on topic, Shaq is one of our best players on his day, but just seems to get frustrated too easily and then gives up. If he was consistent he wouldn't be at Stoke, I hope he has a massive last 1/3 of the season and we decide to keep him or at the very least make a profit.
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Post by nott1 on Mar 3, 2017 12:15:24 GMT
I have noticed one thing......when Shaq comes off with an "injury" it's his decision AND HE'S NEVER LIMPING! Never saw Harry Burrows or any player of that era doing that, and I've seen players carry on with broken legs etc.
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Post by alster on Mar 3, 2017 12:17:08 GMT
It's fair to say that the transfers for the 2015/16 are shitfest on the whole. I wouldn't label a single one a success. Philipp Wollscheid Jakob Haugaard Joselu Shay Given Glen Johnson Moha Dom Telford Mark Waddington Ibrahim Afellay Sergio Molina Xherdan Shaqiri Giannelli Imbula EDIT- How could I forget Marco Van Ginkel? You wouldn't label Afellay a success? Yes, a few long term injuries, but much prefer how we look with him in the side, such a good, versatile player - on a free transfer too! Could also make arguments for Johnson and Shaq. Imbula frustrates me - looks so good at times, optimistically I want to see him stay and fulfill his potential, realistically he's off. Don't get me wrong, looking at that list is pretty depressing - particularly given the initial excitement of signing some of these players. Back on topic, Shaq is one of our best players on his day, but just seems to get frustrated too easily and then gives up. If he was consistent he wouldn't be at Stoke, I hope he has a massive last 1/3 of the season and we decide to keep him or at the very least make a profit. I don't know where people are coming from with concerns about Shaqiri's fee when you look at the market totally unproven players are regularly changing hands for Ā£12M or more. I would expect a tidy profit if he was to move on.
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