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Post by stokebloke on Feb 2, 2017 12:54:33 GMT
Has shaq always had these problems at previous clubs ?
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Post by medwaypotter on Feb 2, 2017 12:57:28 GMT
I have the answer - robot football We had that last night
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Post by jezzascfc on Feb 2, 2017 13:36:01 GMT
Shaq needs yoga and stretching (not on a rack, although if he was 6 foot tall, he'd be handy at the back post for Charlie's left footed diagonals!), not more weights. Surely our physios should have designed a programme for him to limit his chances of persistent muscle strains and pulls?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 13:44:12 GMT
When do the club have the conversation about letting Shaqiri go, and replace him with someone a bit more robust? It really is a pain in the arse. He annoys me.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Feb 2, 2017 15:18:36 GMT
When do we start foreseeing into the future to know what injuries players are going to have? Apparently the human movement specialists are able to predict reasaonably accurately the likliehood of a range of injuries based on how players move. Possibly why Afellay and Callum Wilson have had 2 cruciate injuries on different knees
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 15:20:02 GMT
When do the club have the conversation about letting Shaqiri go, and replace him with someone a bit more robust? It really is a pain in the arse. He annoys me. He might have Sciatica, granted.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 2, 2017 15:22:11 GMT
When do we start foreseeing into the future to know what injuries players are going to have? Oh we did that with Djemba Ba. Indeed, seriously though do we bother to take into account a players past injury record before we spend big money on transfer fees and or transfer fee's ?
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Feb 2, 2017 15:31:03 GMT
he has had a fair few injury problems but i think its his physique Johnson is more a long career catching up but we dont miss him as much Berahino will beed Shaq and Charlie to provide him with service becaus ehis game is a lot about intelligent movement and they are the two best at spotting early runs
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Post by moz on Feb 2, 2017 15:48:41 GMT
Are'nt our players physical and muscular endurance measured and analyzed routinely to adjust the training regime for each player to avoid that kind of regular injury?
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Post by Kjones9 on Feb 2, 2017 15:59:30 GMT
Nah he's just a sad little man who would rather lecture about my life (which is ace) than ignore someone he clearly thinks is a cunt. That's sad. Of course I do (see Bardsley) but if I don't think I'm wrong why would I? Grant is what he is, a good keeper with faults and those faults would mean that I hope he'd be third choice at best. That's all. I bollocked Grant 3 or 4 times last night and then gave him a standing ovartion for the save. That sums up where I am with him. I think he's vital to us currently but I think a lot of people are going ott with how good he actually is. But when you've come from a keeper who can't save a shot then that is likely to happen. [ Your life's (ace) ...your life is this message board. And twitter, you forgot twitter.
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Post by toppercorner on Feb 2, 2017 16:01:55 GMT
When do we see the light and employ a yoga instructor and get Shaqiri doing it every day? The amount of time he's been out with calf issues is a joke. i find i bizarre that so most muscle injuries are preventable by proper stretching and conditioning, and yet the club don't force the players who are prone to them, to do more prevention work yoga would be the best thing for Shaq, Muni etc . 100% guarantee they wouldn't have any muscle issues after 2 months of doing yoga/pilates why the hell don't they do it before a game?
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Post by Billy the kid on Feb 2, 2017 16:07:20 GMT
When do the club have the conversation about letting Shaqiri go, and replace him with someone a bit more robust? It really is a pain in the arse. He annoys me. Afraid to say, but 100% agree. Can you imagine just how good he could be with a clear run of games? Instead every couple of weeks another muscle explodes.
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Post by elystokie on Feb 2, 2017 17:29:43 GMT
Oh we did that with Djemba Ba. Indeed, seriously though do we bother to take into account a players past injury record before we spend big money on transfer fees and or transfer fee's ? You don't genuinely think we completely ignore it, surely?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 18:52:53 GMT
I think he's suggesting that that's what you've been doing Bayern. I've no problem with what you do/spend your time on but you never admit that you might be wrong, even slightly. The intractability of your positions makes you come across like a bit of a zealot at times If everyone blocked him he'd have no one to talk to.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 2, 2017 19:50:44 GMT
Indeed, seriously though do we bother to take into account a players past injury record before we spend big money on transfer fees and or transfer fee's ? You don't genuinely think we completely ignore it, surely? Out recent history appears to confirm that we don't do it thoroughly enough unfortunately.
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Post by Old School Stokie on Feb 2, 2017 20:07:53 GMT
There has to be a big question mark around our training regime. I don't think they are as fit as a top premier or international player should be. They need to be a bit more scientific in the way they get their players to peak fitness to last 90 minutes in evpremier league. Forget the cushy trips to dubai let's see a more rigorous Athletic training. They have to be fot 52 weeks a year not just the football season. Look at top tennis players - 5 hours on a one to one - I would say most stoke and prem league players are reaching around 60% of their fitness capacity.
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Post by roylandstoke on Feb 2, 2017 20:20:01 GMT
There has to be a big question mark around our training regime. I don't think they are as fit as a top premier or international player should be. They need to be a bit more scientific in the way they get their players to peak fitness to last 90 minutes in evpremier league. Forget the cushy trips to dubai let's see a more rigorous Athletic training. They have to be fot 52 weeks a year not just the football season. Look at top tennis players - 5 hours on a one to one - I would say most stoke and prem league players are reaching around 60% of their fitness capacity. When Arsehole took over Arsenal he was heralded as the master of sports science/yoga/stretching etc ( players like Adams said the new regime probably added years to their careers) yet now no one has more muscle injuries than the current Arsenal team. I am sure our medical/conditioning staff are as good as most people's. Sometimes players just get injured.
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Post by elystokie on Feb 3, 2017 7:00:09 GMT
You don't genuinely think we completely ignore it, surely? Out recent history appears to confirm that we don't do it thoroughly enough unfortunately. You don't think we could be taking calculated risks in the hope of getting better value for our budget? I personally find it difficult to believe that we spend millions of pounds on players without doing some sort of due diligence. I also don't know how our injury list compares with that of our peers, are we really that bad or does it just seem that way? Perhaps you could enlighten me?
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Post by jeycov on Feb 3, 2017 9:08:37 GMT
Out for the West Brom game!! pity
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Feb 3, 2017 9:09:59 GMT
Out recent history appears to confirm that we don't do it thoroughly enough unfortunately. You don't think we could be taking calculated risks in the hope of getting better value for our budget? I personally find it difficult to believe that we spend millions of pounds on players without doing some sort of due diligence. I also don't know how our injury list compares with that of our peers, are we really that bad or does it just seem that way? Perhaps you could enlighten me? He will probably blame hughes. He does for everything else!😁
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 3, 2017 9:17:32 GMT
Both still out tomorrow...
Xherdan Shaqiri is still unavailable, and Glen is likely to miss out too. We are hoping they will both be available for the next game. Geoff Cameron is making progress, which is positive for us. He is having a couple more things done which will benefit him further, and with a bit of luck he will be back in a couple of weeks. He isn't quite with the group yet though. Jon Walters is progressing too, and he is well on track. The timetable for him is being followed. Mame Diouf has been back since Wednesday so he will be in the squad, just as Wilfried is. Those two have strengthened us up.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Feb 3, 2017 10:17:57 GMT
Both still out tomorrow... Xherdan Shaqiri is still unavailable, and Glen is likely to miss out too. We are hoping they will both be available for the next game. Geoff Cameron is making progress, which is positive for us. He is having a couple more things done which will benefit him further, and with a bit of luck he will be back in a couple of weeks. He isn't quite with the group yet though. Jon Walters is progressing too, and he is well on track. The timetable for him is being followed. Mame Diouf has been back since Wednesday so he will be in the squad, just as Wilfried is. Those two have strengthened us up. And typically, Ramadan is still in deepest Africa so we don't have a wing option. Will we go Arnie, Crouchie and Berahino from the off? Or start with Mama on the right and then bring Berahino for Crouchie perhaps, depending on what we need or how the game's going. Of course, there's always Bony....At least we have options up front on Saturday.
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Feb 3, 2017 10:26:33 GMT
Both still out tomorrow... Xherdan Shaqiri is still unavailable, and Glen is likely to miss out too. We are hoping they will both be available for the next game. Geoff Cameron is making progress, which is positive for us. He is having a couple more things done which will benefit him further, and with a bit of luck he will be back in a couple of weeks. He isn't quite with the group yet though. Jon Walters is progressing too, and he is well on track. The timetable for him is being followed. Mame Diouf has been back since Wednesday so he will be in the squad, just as Wilfried is. Those two have strengthened us up. Absolutely pathetic! Out for 2 games (minimum!) because he felt some tightness in his calf in training. Looks like we'll have zero threat on the right again unless Hughes has an epiphany and decides to play N'Goy
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 3, 2017 11:07:00 GMT
Both still out tomorrow... Xherdan Shaqiri is still unavailable, and Glen is likely to miss out too. We are hoping they will both be available for the next game. Geoff Cameron is making progress, which is positive for us. He is having a couple more things done which will benefit him further, and with a bit of luck he will be back in a couple of weeks. He isn't quite with the group yet though. Jon Walters is progressing too, and he is well on track. The timetable for him is being followed. Mame Diouf has been back since Wednesday so he will be in the squad, just as Wilfried is. Those two have strengthened us up. And typically, Ramadan is still in deepest Africa so we don't have a wing option. Will we go Arnie, Crouchie and Berahino from the off? Or start with Mama on the right and then bring Berahino for Crouchie perhaps, depending on what we need or how the game's going. Of course, there's always Bony....At least we have options up front on Saturday. Think I'd be tempted to start Diouf on the right.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 3, 2017 11:14:44 GMT
Geoff's injury has been completely bizzare from start to finish.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 3, 2017 11:30:50 GMT
Geoff's injury has been completely bizzare from start to finish. Are we able to slam those god damn American medics yet because they clearly haven't sorted him out either?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 3, 2017 11:41:54 GMT
Geoff's injury has been completely bizzare from start to finish. Are we able to slam those god damn American medics yet because they clearly haven't sorted him out either? I should coco! And poor Geoff trusted them over our medical team as well. 3 and half months off for a knee strain has to be some sort of world record doesn't it?
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Post by jimmygscfc on Feb 3, 2017 11:50:33 GMT
Are we able to slam those god damn American medics yet because they clearly haven't sorted him out either? I should coco! And poor Geoff trusted them over our medical team as well. 3 and half months off for a knee strain has to be some sort of world record doesn't it? It hasn't just been a knee strain Sheikh. Do keep up.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 3, 2017 11:51:56 GMT
I should coco! And poor Geoff trusted them over our medical team as well. 3 and half months off for a knee strain has to be some sort of world record doesn't it? It hasn't just been a knee strain Sheikh. Do keep up. I guessed that Jim . He'd had a toothache as well
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Post by jimmygscfc on Feb 3, 2017 11:58:03 GMT
It hasn't just been a knee strain Sheikh. Do keep up. I guessed that Jim . He'd had a toothache as well And a runny nose apparently . His absence seems to be growing in importance with each game as far as some people are concerned. I like Geoff but he's not the Messiah.
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