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Post by owdestokie on Jan 27, 2017 23:26:40 GMT
You continually use the word "fact or factual" in numerous threads relating to TP. or where threads are manipulated to continually undermine an individuals credibility. and honesty Words frequently used like "toxic". Why not let us all know what the "facts" are as surely "facts" can't be used in any form litigation You'll just have to trust me mate. I'm sorry when there are a small number of posters on this board that will use any excuse, on any thread, to continue/wage what appears to be personal agendas over a number of years they either have to put up or shut up. "Arguably" our best manager who delivered us the promised land from obscrurity deserves some form of credit like it or not. To use words like "toxic" from behind a keyboard are shallow and require substance from the poster. Opinions are opinions but when the the words fact or factual are used they should be substantiated. Call me old fashioned with values
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Post by owdestokie on Jan 27, 2017 23:29:40 GMT
Watched his interview on sky earlier. He's a young lad who made a mistake and West Brom never let him forget it. For what ever reason pulis continued the bullying. Delighted to be away and chuffed we ended his nightmare. He comes across a genuine lad Hope he repays us. I think he will in spades He did the same with kitson and tuncay and probably afew other's Name me a player that left SCFC under the management of Tony Pulis who went on to equal or greater things in their career
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 27, 2017 23:37:17 GMT
He did the same with kitson and tuncay and probably afew other's Name me a player that left SCFC under the management of Tony Pulis who went on to equal or greater things in their career Please explain how this is a ringing endorsement of his management at Stoke City?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 27, 2017 23:42:46 GMT
You'll just have to trust me mate. I'm sorry when there are a small number of posters on this board that will use any excuse, on any thread, to continue/wage what appears to be personal agendas over a number of years they either have to put up or shut up. "Arguably" our best manager who delivered us the promised land from obscrurity deserves some form of credit like it or not. To use words like "toxic" from behind a keyboard are shallow and require substance from the poster. Opinions are opinions but when the the words fact or factual are used they should be substantiated. Call me old fashioned with values Awww it's love.
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Post by paulkoz on Jan 27, 2017 23:54:49 GMT
Crikey I make a positive post for Stokies, and there is always a few twats that moan....Fuck off support a glory club, I know there is one guy waiting for me reply to his stupidity, but I've still waiting till I can be arsed reply to a fake fan....."this is my local club so blah blah"......Doesn't make him a supporter he is a fad going along with expection, Thats not a supporter its some one who thinks they are doing their duty.
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Post by paulkoz on Jan 27, 2017 23:55:28 GMT
If im not making sense its cause I've had one to many sherbits.
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Post by owdestokie on Jan 27, 2017 23:56:08 GMT
Name me a player that left SCFC under the management of Tony Pulis who went on to equal or greater things in their career Please explain how this is a ringing endorsement of his management at Stoke City? Please don't insult my intelligence or that of many others by asking a question rather than giving an answer
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Post by owdestokie on Jan 27, 2017 23:58:11 GMT
I'm sorry when there are a small number of posters on this board that will use any excuse, on any thread, to continue/wage what appears to be personal agendas over a number of years they either have to put up or shut up. "Arguably" our best manager who delivered us the promised land from obscrurity deserves some form of credit like it or not. To use words like "toxic" from behind a keyboard are shallow and require substance from the poster. Opinions are opinions but when the the words fact or factual are used they should be substantiated. Call me old fashioned with values Awww it's love. No it's what's known as fair play. Of course that would not be part of the agenda merchants view point.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 27, 2017 23:59:51 GMT
No it's what's known as fair play. Of course that would not be part of the agenda merchants view point. The bloke was clearly a twatbox of the highest order.
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 28, 2017 0:02:25 GMT
Please explain how this is a ringing endorsement of his management at Stoke City? Please don't insult my intelligence or that of many others by asking a question rather than giving an answer You clearly lack intelligence by coming out with such a ridiculous comment in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 0:12:26 GMT
The fact, and it is a fact, is that if you'd gone onto the West Brom message-boards three months ago, the inhabitants were generally anti-Pulis. At the same time, there was almost total condemnation of Berahino and his antics.
I hated much of Pulis' time here, but while I don't think Pulis is 100% blameless in the Berahino story, the fact is that even those West Brom fans who wanted to drive Pulis out of town still didn't hold him responsible in any major way for the Berahino fall out. The damage was done long before Pulis turned up there. Pulis probably didn't do much to put things right, but there's a definite feeling among West Brom fans that Berahino was responsible for his own downfall there.
I'm in no way against the signing of Berahino. Quite the opposite. If he can get back to being the player he was a couple of years ago, then the club could be in for exciting times. I think he was a young lad needing guidance who fell in with the wrong crowd of friends, which might still be a concern. Young and immature maybe and unable to stop a spiral of events at West Brom. Now he's out of that, hopefully, like Arnie, with the right guidance he might just see us as a fresh start and a welcoming home for someone who wants to get his career back on track.
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Post by metalhead on Jan 28, 2017 1:32:22 GMT
Wow, just wow.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 28, 2017 6:52:57 GMT
Clearly, he has the talent, but then so does Imbula.
It's going to be mostly down to the attitude of the player himself.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jan 28, 2017 10:05:00 GMT
Clearly, he has the talent, but then so does Imbula. It's going to be mostly down to the attitude of the player himself. I'm not sure that comparison is valid. Both players obviously have talent, true. However, Imbula (it seems to me) has gaps in his football understanding which really should not be there. Defensively, he looks as though he will always be a liability. Hence Sparky's decision to put him on posts at corners - he has no decisions to make when he is positioned there - he just has to stop the ball entering the net if at all possible - and obviously within the laws of the game. He's much more comfortable going forward withn the ball but, even there, his decision making is often dodgy. Berahino seems to have a much better footballing brain. Yes, he's poor at heading, but, that apart, he seems to have a decent understanding of what is required of him and plenty of all round ability. Baggie fans have said that his tracking back (which was a weakness) is much improved and his decision making during games has always looked sound to me. If we can get him fully fit and motivated, I think we'll be happy with Berahino's contribution. I'm not at all sure that is the case with Imbula who, as I said above, does not seem to understand the game as well as he should _ I do hope I am wrong and that he does improve.
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Post by parsons75 on Jan 28, 2017 10:07:44 GMT
You're wasting your breathe owde. The deep rooted hatred from Pugsley and others will never give you the answers you are looking for.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 10:17:34 GMT
Saviour is the wrong word. Make us better is right. IMHO view!
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Post by werrington on Jan 28, 2017 10:28:27 GMT
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Post by safcforever on Jan 28, 2017 10:36:15 GMT
Makes you wonder if they have some sort of hold on them, there were rumours that Gerrard was in some way mixed up with some gangster types in Liverpool to the extent that they blocked a move to Chelsea, maybe blackmail, intimidation, protection racketeering, who knows, but it is certainly not uncommon... Wasn't our very own Ryan Shotton mixed up with some of SoT's less favorable sorts... We had Chopra who was caught up in a lot of dodgy shit.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 10:44:51 GMT
He did the same with kitson and tuncay and probably afew other's Name me a player that left SCFC under the management of Tony Pulis who went on to equal or greater things in their career You're quite right, he did ruin a lot of players.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 13:46:09 GMT
I was totally posed to this but now hes ours
hoping he comes good and proves me totally wrong
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 28, 2017 14:19:44 GMT
The 'hope I'm proved wrong brigade'. The worst posters on here.
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Post by stokiejoe on Jan 28, 2017 14:34:11 GMT
No longer matters what he did or didn't do or who caused it. He is a Stoke player now and deserves, and will get knowing our fans, full support. Given the chance he will prove things one way or another, but he deserves that chance.
Odemwhingie turned out to be great for us despite the previous Baggie baggage
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Post by Kjones9 on Jan 28, 2017 14:35:54 GMT
I love on all the articles that have been posted on the net the thick yam yam twats are queuing up to state how less arsed they are.
They doth protest too much.
Boing Boing.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jan 28, 2017 14:38:45 GMT
In the words of Kevin Keegan, I would love it if he got the winner against the Baggies. LOVE IT.
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Post by superheroantonius on Jan 28, 2017 14:48:49 GMT
I am really interested to see how this situation pans out ?
Went on loan to Brentford , fell out with everyone , started slagging off manager Uwe rossler on social media and had to have his loan terminated
Went back to west brom , fell out with everyone , started slagging off Jeremy peace on social media and had to be sold
sounds a total tool , but he has some ability , and could come good one day ?? maybe ?
Brave call by sparky ... hope it works out !!
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 28, 2017 14:54:13 GMT
No longer matters what he did or didn't do or who caused it. He is a Stoke player now and deserves, and will get knowing our fans, full support. Given the chance he will prove things one way or another, but he deserves that chance. Odemwhingie turned out to be great for us despite the previous Baggie baggage I agree. Even if I thought someone was a terrible signing (which isn't the case here), they would have my full support while at the club. No arguments.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 28, 2017 14:58:18 GMT
The 'hope I'm proved wrong brigade'. The worst posters on here. Rubbish. Can't supporters have a view on a new signing now? I felt - and still feel - that there may be too much baggage and / or that the weight of expectation may be too high. It's not difficult to understand that I would nonetheless be absolutely delighted if it turned out I was wrong. Are we only allowed to have approved opinions now or something?
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Post by superheroantonius on Jan 28, 2017 15:53:15 GMT
Agree with above, once they have signed for stoke I want them to do well, regardless of any history
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Post by Alvechurch Assassin on Jan 28, 2017 16:17:38 GMT
Has that lad ignored him yet at Greggs?
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 28, 2017 16:29:45 GMT
I am really interested to see how this situation pans out ? Went on loan to Brentford , fell out with everyone , started slagging off manager Uwe rossler on social media and had to have his loan terminated Went back to west brom , fell out with everyone , started slagging off Jeremy peace on social media and had to be sold sounds a total tool , but he has some ability , and could come good one day ?? maybe ? Brave call by sparky ... hope it works out !! another one....
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