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Post by StokieNath on Jan 14, 2017 18:07:48 GMT
I think you know yourself that we are still in a mess Are we fuck in a mess. Bring on ManUre and another 3 points.... Deluded
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Post by Jimmyg on Jan 14, 2017 18:11:07 GMT
Today changes nothing. It has never been an issue of us not being able to beat the bottom few teams and stay out of relegation trouble. The management needs refreshing. apart from our league position...
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Post by sportsman on Jan 14, 2017 18:11:15 GMT
I think you know yourself that we are still in a mess Are we fuck in a mess. Bring on ManUre and another 3 points.... Think some pillocks on here will be singing Rooney, Rooney, and hoping he gets his 250th goal. Sad.
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Post by Lesalanos on Jan 14, 2017 18:12:21 GMT
Typical all the square roots of fuck all, I know more than you and jack shit to back it up. I'm still waiting for you to back up your ridiculous claim that Sunderland dominated us for an hour of that game. Ive just had a read of the Sunderland forum. You'll be surprised to find that they didn't think they dominated either.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 18:13:31 GMT
Are we fuck in a mess. Bring on ManUre and another 3 points.... Think some pillocks on here will be singing Rooney, Rooney, and hoping he gets his 250th goal. Sad. Rooney to grab his 250th ManUre goal as a 90th minute consolation after Crouchie's 100th Premier League goal and a Berahino wonder striker put us 2-0 ahead....
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Post by bmstoke on Jan 14, 2017 18:17:00 GMT
I'm still waiting for you to back up your ridiculous claim that Sunderland dominated us for an hour of that game. Maybe somebody will help me out and check the stats out. I haven't got a clue how to do it but I'd guess having watched the game all the stats after their goal would be in their favor. You know like possession, shots on goal, territory, corners etc but whatever they said you's still be right because you're so up your own arse. Stats that matter. Stoke 3 Sunderland 1
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 14, 2017 18:17:19 GMT
I'm still waiting for you to back up your ridiculous claim that Sunderland dominated us for an hour of that game. Maybe somebody will help me out and check the stats out. I haven't got a clue how to do it but I'd guess having watched the game all the stats after their goal would be in their favor. You know like possession, shots on goal, territory, corners etc but whatever they said you's still be right because you're so up your own arse. This is you not slagging other fans off then is it? ??? Sunderland 1 Stoke City 3. That's the only stat that matters. Or maybe Coatesy should haul Hughes into his office on Monday and sack him because Sunderland had more corners?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 18:17:29 GMT
I love how some spectators expect us to be in total control of a game for 90 minutes.
I'm not talking about the 'game of two halves' that we always seem to get, regardless of the opposition. Moyes would have bollocked his players at half-time and asked them to press us for as long as they could to promote mistakes. This led to more urgency from the S'land players and yes, we were under the cosh for around 15-20 minutes. But we're not a top side (yet?). Teams will still have periods of pressure.
Personally this is because we don't yet have a mobile and strong defensive midfielder to help break up periods of opposition pressure/passing. Yes, minutes 50-70 today were nervy as fuck, but only because Charles, Allen and Whelan weren't able tp the energy levels of the first half against increasingly urgent opposition. The Afellay sub didn't come off until around the 80th minute, but paid off as the game wore on. Bring on the aforementioned new DM destroyer for Whelan or Charles on 60 and we'd probably find it easier to cope with these periods of pressure, as the other players will be given more of a chance to regroup/catch their breath/calm down. It's seemingly why teams like Chelsea (Matic/Kante) and Tottenham (Wanyama/Dembele) can handle periods of opposition pressure. Whelan is great but he's not got the physical presence nor energy to break up opposition attacks by himself for over 45 minutes.
It'll be different next week, however. Arnie, Shaq, Allen and the striker(s) will all need to be on the same wavelength to make probable minimal possession count.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 14, 2017 18:20:18 GMT
Today doesn't eradicate any of the issues or concerns around Hughes, or a lot of his signings. It's a great result and much needed 3 points. I'll look forward to watching it back on Match of the Day tonight, especially the second goal. We desperately needed a cup run though, and we lost against a second string side that is struggling in the championship. And we were at home with all our big guns out. Does winning today mean we just ignore that? No. We've spent 18 million on a guy who can't even get into the match day squad. Do we just ignore that because we won today? No. Hughes has had 3 and a half years and his first choice forward is Crouch. One of his recruits (at 5 million quid) is out on loan. Another forward he chased for 18 months is playing at wing back. Another forward he signed is out in the wilderness. Do we just ignore his incompetence to bring in a decent centre forward given the backing he's had because we won today? No. Yes, we're 9th. But it's ridiculous to suggest everything is fine. It'll be a step in the right direction if we just don't get spanked for at least 4 next week. Doing a fine job from a footballing and bean counting perspectives. Working within the expectations of Sir Peter {Academy, self sufficiency}, on a relatively limited budget for the longer term benefit of SCFC. The benefit of stability means that some of these projects can be a little longer term {Arnie}. The signing of these rough diamonds has sold shirts, upping the merchandising revenue etc. It's a risky strategy but makes for exciting nogger stories. I'm more than happy to back the vision, and continue to believe that as long as it remains a challenge then he's the best man to be at the helm. We've been on a decent run since the Crystal Palace game: DDWWWDLWWLDDLLWW {which includes Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool obv.} Always room for improvement but looking forward to the run in, nowt to fret about. The youth are emerging. And the window ain't shut yet.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jan 14, 2017 18:22:59 GMT
Didn't we have Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea under pressure for periods of time.
Ffs Hughes can't win around here.
Some people around here give the impression that they'd have been happier if we won the shits on target, possession, tackles and best tattoos stats rather than the match!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 18:26:40 GMT
Didn't we have Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea under pressure for periods of time. Ffs Hughes can't win around here. Some people around here give the impression that they'd have been happier if we one the shits on target, possession, tackles and best tattoos stats rather than the match!!!! Bob on though. Only three losses since that Palace game (although yes, we can't discount that awful start and could be up in 6th/7th if Hughes had actually done better there) is bretty great, personally. But no - Bournemouth, Chelsea and Liverpool beat us so fuck it, no other results can make amends!
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Post by pottersrule on Jan 14, 2017 18:45:49 GMT
Because we beat Sunderland? First time in 22 years in the league.Good isn't it!
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jan 14, 2017 18:54:19 GMT
It's football, we can win games and lose games, especially to the likes of Sunderland, but just because we won today doesn't mean we should forget about all the cock ups that Hughes has made. Credit where it's due though to Hughes on getting 3 pts here where we struggle.
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Post by jarhead on Jan 14, 2017 18:54:21 GMT
Unfortunately some people have already embarrassed themselves to the extent that they won't want to lose face. Every time we lose they'll be back, whining and bleating because we're not top of the league by 12 points. Spot on T its ace watching them squeam tonight and how sad they can't Enjoy a stoke city win away in the top flight! Must be a right barrel of laughs in those houses tonight...Not!!!
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Post by jarhead on Jan 14, 2017 18:55:17 GMT
So, we beat Sunderland and Watford, two of the worst teams in the league and everything is ok. The second half today could have been disastrous against a better side. It will take a lot more to convince many that Hughes is the man to take us to this mythical next level!. What is the next level? We beat the bottom teams lose to the top 6 draw against those around us. We're an established top 10 Prem side. I can name two teams above us who we're arguably as good if not better than. I can list 20 plus below us who are bigger clubs than Stoke who'd give everything to be at our level. Sunderland are one of those teams. Spot on
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Post by jarhead on Jan 14, 2017 18:58:10 GMT
Great win but lets be honest we played for half an hour and let a poor team dominate the match from that point. Yes lets be happy, yes lets give Hughes some credit, lets give Crouch some credit but lets not get carried away we still haven't played well in both halves of a game since god knows when If you think Sunderland dominated that match for an hour, you must be even more clueless than the sum of your posts on this message board suggests - and you've set the bar pretty high over the last few weeks. Exhibit A right here in alster for digging a huge Hole for himself that he still criticises a superb away result. Very sad individual
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Post by passtheoatcakes on Jan 14, 2017 19:03:29 GMT
I don't know why folks go to watch the obvious shit that Hughes serves up on a regular basis. In fact if we don't tonk Manure next week I am going to get my van out, with new banners fitted to it and park it outside the Brit (never will be the Bet365 for me).
The banners will read 'Hughes Out' and 'Bayern In'.
It's not just that Bayern 88k poster seems to be a totally miserable sod, he really does appear to know better than Hughes or anyone else on this board for that matter how to manage SCFC and make it a regular top 4 side. I move that he be given the manager's job in the summer. Anyone else back me on this?
Great win today at a place where we have been humbled in the past, time to get behind the manager and the team. UTP.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 14, 2017 19:06:35 GMT
Today should be an end to the Hughes out crap on here... For a while. So, we beat Sunderland and Watford, two of the worst teams in the league and everything is ok. The second half today could have been disastrous against a better side. It will take a lot more to convince many that Hughes is the man to take us to this mythical next level!. The premier league has three levels - relegation fodder, mid table security and champions league contenders, None of these are mythical - its only the number of clubs involved that varies. Hughes has moved us to the (completely real) next level - mid table security. For a club of our size staying there would be a miracle - a miracle that unfortunately many of our supporters simply do not understand.
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Post by MadridStokie on Jan 14, 2017 19:06:36 GMT
Today changes nothing. It has never been an issue of us not being able to beat the bottom few teams and stay out of relegation trouble. The management needs refreshing. Why does it need refreshing ?
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 14, 2017 19:09:05 GMT
Today should be an end to the Hughes out crap on here... For a while. So, we beat Sunderland and Watford, two of the worst teams in the league and everything is ok. The second half today could have been disastrous against a better side. It will take a lot more to convince many that Hughes is the man to take us to this mythical next level!. You can only beat what's in front of you
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Post by sportsman on Jan 14, 2017 19:16:20 GMT
Unfortunately some people have already embarrassed themselves to the extent that they won't want to lose face. Every time we lose they'll be back, whining and bleating because we're not top of the league by 12 points. Spot on T its ace watching them squeam tonight and how sad they can't Enjoy a stoke city win away in the top flight! Must be a right barrel of laughs in those houses tonight...Not!!! We were kicking the cat last week, they're kicking it tonight. Sad.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 14, 2017 19:20:19 GMT
Today should be an end to the Hughes out crap on here... For a while. So, we beat Sunderland and Watford, two of the worst teams in the league and everything is ok. The second half today could have been disastrous against a better side. It will take a lot more to convince many that Hughes is the man to take us to this mythical next level!. So, we are successful against most of the poorer teams....that hasn't always been the case, we've slipped up many times in the past, especially against Sunderland. It could now be argued we are taking advantage of the 'easier' games, and so we should be.
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Post by crownmeking on Jan 14, 2017 19:32:27 GMT
A number of things have been proved today. 1) Hughes has NOT lost the dressing room at all, the players are willing to work for him.
2) We have a group of players who can do the business.
3) We are NOT going to be in a relegation scrap as predicted (Hi Benji)
4) We are inconsistent.
5) There is room for improvement (Just like every other team).
6) The 'crisis' and Hughes out calls were a massive over reaction.
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Post by crownmeking on Jan 14, 2017 19:35:17 GMT
And to anyone saying we beat Sunderland because they were crap, and we shouldn't get over excited, you are the same ones that were saying, Sunderland will be tough to beat, they are in a relegation fight and have found some form recently... You can't have your cake and eat it.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jan 14, 2017 19:37:43 GMT
A number of things have been proved today. 1) Hughes has NOT lost the dressing room at all, the players are willing to work for him. 2) We have a group of players who can do the business. 3) We are NOT going to be in a relegation scrap as predicted (Hi Benji) 4) We are inconsistent. 5) There is room for improvement (Just like every other team). 6) The 'crisis' and Hughes out calls were a massive over reaction. Pretty fair assessment. I don't think 'crisis' was over the top after the Palace game, though! We looked very good first half today, and it was a pleasure to watch at times. As others have said on other threads, 2 or 3 signings wouldn't go amiss, either.
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Post by crownmeking on Jan 14, 2017 19:39:42 GMT
A number of things have been proved today. 1) Hughes has NOT lost the dressing room at all, the players are willing to work for him. 2) We have a group of players who can do the business. 3) We are NOT going to be in a relegation scrap as predicted (Hi Benji) 4) We are inconsistent. 5) There is room for improvement (Just like every other team). 6) The 'crisis' and Hughes out calls were a massive over reaction. Pretty fair assessment. I don't think 'crisis' was over the top after the Palace game, though! We looked very good first half today, and it was a pleasure to watch at times. As others have said on other threads, 2 or 3 signings wouldn't go amiss, either. I am all for improving with new signings, and I know we've had a rough ride, but I cannot agree that we've been in crisis, apart from Bayern's mid life crisis.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jan 14, 2017 19:46:13 GMT
Pretty fair assessment. I don't think 'crisis' was over the top after the Palace game, though! We looked very good first half today, and it was a pleasure to watch at times. As others have said on other threads, 2 or 3 signings wouldn't go amiss, either. I am all for improving with new signings, and I know we've had a rough ride, but I cannot agree that we've been in crisis, apart from Bayern's mid life crisis. Bayern is still not over the death of Leonard Cohen, his motivational speaker.
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Post by dastokie on Jan 14, 2017 19:48:21 GMT
Come on you moaning twats lets hear the negatives from today. Yes I hated losing to the Dingles last week but having to read the sh** put on here last week from so called fellow Stokie's who either were not born early enough to remember the season under kamara, Ball,etc. Hughes may not be Waddington yet but our football is so much better than under Pulis who i also had nothing but respect for. Long live you moaning tw**s who really have nothing better to do than criticise the club i love and always will through thick and thin. Goarn STOKE.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jan 14, 2017 19:49:50 GMT
People are allowed to criticize the manager when he makes mistakes.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 19:54:40 GMT
People are allowed to criticize the manager when he makes mistakes. Really? Well fuck me, I didn't know that!
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