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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 25, 2017 11:04:06 GMT
It's a shortlist of four. It's got to be McGuinness I'd say. Cllr Gareth Snell Cllr Allison Gardner Trudie McGuinness Cllr Stephen Hitchin Now, now Gareth that's my mate Jeremy you're talking about
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 25, 2017 11:12:44 GMT
It's a shortlist of four. It's got to be McGuinness I'd say. Cllr Gareth Snell Cllr Allison Gardner Trudie McGuinness Cllr Stephen Hitchin Very commendable. Righto....... err ........ very commendable.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 25, 2017 11:23:01 GMT
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Post by upthefud on Jan 25, 2017 11:38:36 GMT
Literally everyone I know is voting UKIP and I'll be joining them. Majority ex-labour voters.
Taking the stance that leaving the EU is a mistake and calling your core support racists and uneducated bigots simply isn't working for Labour. Strange that...
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Jan 25, 2017 12:01:52 GMT
Literally everyone I know is voting UKIP and I'll be joining them. Majority ex-labour voters. Taking the stance that leaving the EU is a mistake and calling your core support racists and uneducated bigots simply isn't working for Labour. Strange that... But it's O.K. for U.K.I.P's anti-E.U. crusade to lead to another Referendum in Scotland for independence. U.K.I.P. are fake patriots just as they are the fake friends of the working man! Only time will tell if leaving the E.U. is a mistake but is it a gamble. Many Leavers will agree to that?
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Post by Rick Grimes on Jan 25, 2017 12:03:15 GMT
Literally everyone I know is voting UKIP and I'll be joining them. Majority ex-labour voters. Taking the stance that leaving the EU is a mistake and calling your core support racists and uneducated bigots simply isn't working for Labour. Strange that... So you're going to vote for the leader of UKIP who is a climate change denier and anti-abortion among other things.
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Post by upthefud on Jan 25, 2017 12:05:07 GMT
Literally everyone I know is voting UKIP and I'll be joining them. Majority ex-labour voters. Taking the stance that leaving the EU is a mistake and calling your core support racists and uneducated bigots simply isn't working for Labour. Strange that... But it's O.K. for U.K.I.P's anti-E.U. crusade to lead to another Referendum in Scotland for independence. U.K.I.P. are fake patriots just as they are the fake friends of the working man! Only time will tell if leaving the E.U. is a mistake but is it a gamble. Many Leavers will agree to that? A) Sturgeon and her SNP cronies want another Scotland referendum regardless. They're looking for excuses. B) It's a mistake to attempt to block the democratic will of the British people. Many remoaners will agree to that?
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Post by upthefud on Jan 25, 2017 12:06:49 GMT
Literally everyone I know is voting UKIP and I'll be joining them. Majority ex-labour voters. Taking the stance that leaving the EU is a mistake and calling your core support racists and uneducated bigots simply isn't working for Labour. Strange that... So you're going to vote for the leader of UKIP who is a climate change denier and anti-abortion among other things. I'm voting to ensure my leave vote won't be ignored. Leaving the EU is the single biggest issue in this country and Labour are trying to block it. UKIP will never have the power to implement Nutall's more extreme views.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Jan 25, 2017 12:12:25 GMT
But it's O.K. for U.K.I.P's anti-E.U. crusade to lead to another Referendum in Scotland for independence. U.K.I.P. are fake patriots just as they are the fake friends of the working man! Only time will tell if leaving the E.U. is a mistake but is it a gamble. Many Leavers will agree to that? A) Sturgeon and her SNP cronies want another Scotland referendum regardless. They're looking for excuses. B) It's a mistake to attempt to block the democratic will of the British people. Many remoaners will agree to that? Nobody has attempted to block 'the democratic will' of the British people. If Cameron had wanted to make the Referendum automatically binding on parliament he should have done so! It is clear that parliament will agree to trigger Article 50 so what's the problem here? Since you are such a fan of the scouser Nuttall, who does he support Liverpool or Everton? Wonder how much he would do for SCFC or PVFC if he became M.P.?
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Post by upthefud on Jan 25, 2017 12:17:43 GMT
A) Sturgeon and her SNP cronies want another Scotland referendum regardless. They're looking for excuses. B) It's a mistake to attempt to block the democratic will of the British people. Many remoaners will agree to that? Nobody has attempted to block 'the democratic will' of the British people. If Cameron had wanted to make the Referendum automatically binding on parliament he should have done so! It is clear that parliament will agree to trigger Article 50 so what's the problem here? Since you are such a fan of the scouser Nuttall, who does he support Liverpool or Everton? Wonder how much he would do for SCFC or PVFC if he became M.P.? Owen Smith has written an article today saying he won't vote to trigger A50. David Lammey is still very much crusading to keep us in. Corbyn will refuse to back a deal that involves us leaving the single market. Did I say I was a fan of Nuttall or did I say I'll be voting to ensure that the democratic will of the British people is enforced? Stoke voted out and Labour don't have a clue. Oh, and not that it's relevant, but what did Mr.Hunt do for SCFC and PVFC?
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Jan 25, 2017 12:26:07 GMT
Nobody has attempted to block 'the democratic will' of the British people. If Cameron had wanted to make the Referendum automatically binding on parliament he should have done so! It is clear that parliament will agree to trigger Article 50 so what's the problem here? Since you are such a fan of the scouser Nuttall, who does he support Liverpool or Everton? Wonder how much he would do for SCFC or PVFC if he became M.P.? Owen Smith has written an article today saying he won't vote to trigger A50. David Lammey is still very much crusading to keep us in. Corbyn will refuse to back a deal that involves us leaving the single market. Did I say I was a fan of Nuttall or did I say I'll be voting to ensure that the democratic will of the British people is enforced? Stoke voted out and Labour don't have a clue. Oh, and not that it's relevant, but what did Mr.Hunt do for SCFC and PVFC? But it is relevant! In my flats, we used to have a big Evertonian who was our Company Sec.(we own the freehold). I've never known a scouser yet who wasn't 100% for himself first and last! Nuttall wouldn't make any difference to Article 50 being triggered but he would send all the wrong signals to the world about Stoke! The council are spending £175,000 on a City of Culture bid! That's £175,000 down the drain if Nuttall wins!
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Post by Rick Grimes on Jan 25, 2017 12:30:20 GMT
So you're going to vote for the leader of UKIP who is a climate change denier and anti-abortion among other things. I'm voting to ensure my leave vote won't be ignored. Leaving the EU is the single biggest issue in this country and Labour are trying to block it. UKIP will never have the power to implement Nutall's more extreme views. Voting UKIP in this election will not have any impact at all on the leave vote, we will be leaving the EU so you don't need to worry about that. Labour aren't attempting to block anything either, there will be some who will stick with their conviction that leaving the EU would harm their constituents but there will not be enough to prevent article 50 being triggered.
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Post by upthefud on Jan 25, 2017 12:32:17 GMT
Owen Smith has written an article today saying he won't vote to trigger A50. David Lammey is still very much crusading to keep us in. Corbyn will refuse to back a deal that involves us leaving the single market. Did I say I was a fan of Nuttall or did I say I'll be voting to ensure that the democratic will of the British people is enforced? Stoke voted out and Labour don't have a clue. Oh, and not that it's relevant, but what did Mr.Hunt do for SCFC and PVFC? But it is relevant! In my flats, we used to have a big Evertonian who was our Company Sec.(we own the freehold). I've never known a scouser yet who wasn't 100% for himself first and last! Nuttall wouldn't make any difference to Article 50 being triggered but he would send all the wrong signals to the world about Stoke! The council are spending £175,000 on a City of Culture bid! That's £175,000 down the drain if Nuttall wins! So you're labelling all scousers? Good luck with your campaign but if UKIP beats Labour around here and in other leave voting constituencies then try not to be too surprised.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Jan 25, 2017 12:41:48 GMT
Owen Smith has written an article today saying he won't vote to trigger A50. David Lammey is still very much crusading to keep us in. Corbyn will refuse to back a deal that involves us leaving the single market. Did I say I was a fan of Nuttall or did I say I'll be voting to ensure that the democratic will of the British people is enforced? Stoke voted out and Labour don't have a clue. Oh, and not that it's relevant, but what did Mr.Hunt do for SCFC and PVFC? But it is relevant! In my flats, we used to have a big Evertonian who was our Company Sec.(we own the freehold). I've never known a scouser yet who wasn't 100% for himself first and last! Nuttall wouldn't make any difference to Article 50 being triggered but he would send all the wrong signals to the world about Stoke! The council are spending £175,000 on a City of Culture bid! That's £175,000 down the drain if Nuttall wins! Generalising all scousers is a bad way to make a point.
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Post by upthefud on Jan 25, 2017 12:48:47 GMT
I'm voting to ensure my leave vote won't be ignored. Leaving the EU is the single biggest issue in this country and Labour are trying to block it. UKIP will never have the power to implement Nutall's more extreme views. Voting UKIP in this election will not have any impact at all on the leave vote, we will be leaving the EU so you don't need to worry about that. Labour aren't attempting to block anything either, there will be some who will stick with their conviction that leaving the EU would harm their constituents but there will not be enough to prevent article 50 being triggered. It will mate, look at the amount of Labour MP's still trying to keep us in, still trying to say that we didn't vote to leave the single market (Corbyn among them). What better show of force is there than Labour losing an area it's held since time began? The politicians need to get the message that we want our wishes carried through in full. It's the only way to make Labour sit up and take notice
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Post by Rick Grimes on Jan 25, 2017 12:56:35 GMT
Voting UKIP in this election will not have any impact at all on the leave vote, we will be leaving the EU so you don't need to worry about that. Labour aren't attempting to block anything either, there will be some who will stick with their conviction that leaving the EU would harm their constituents but there will not be enough to prevent article 50 being triggered. It will mate, look at the amount of Labour MP's still trying to keep us in, still trying to say that we didn't vote to leave the single market (Corbyn among them). What better show of force is there than Labour losing an area it's held since time began? The politicians need to get the message that we want our wishes carried through in full. It's the only way to make Labour sit up and take notice No it really won't make any difference at all. It doesn't matter if you vote for the Tories, Labour, UKIP, Lib Dems or Greens we will definitely be leaving the EU. Have you got an exact or even approximate figure of the number of Labour MP's still trying to keep us in, and what percentage of the Labour party they make up? Have you even checked what the Labour candidates that are potentially going to stand in Stoke have said?
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Post by oatcakesity on Jan 25, 2017 12:57:34 GMT
Voting UKIP in this election will not have any impact at all on the leave vote, we will be leaving the EU so you don't need to worry about that. Labour aren't attempting to block anything either, there will be some who will stick with their conviction that leaving the EU would harm their constituents but there will not be enough to prevent article 50 being triggered. It will mate, look at the amount of Labour MP's still trying to keep us in, still trying to say that we didn't vote to leave the single market (Corbyn among them). What better show of force is there than Labour losing an area it's held since time began? The politicians need to get the message that we want our wishes carried through in full. It's the only way to make Labour sit up and take notice Agreed. Conservative Leavers should vote ukip too.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Jan 25, 2017 12:58:11 GMT
But it is relevant! In my flats, we used to have a big Evertonian who was our Company Sec.(we own the freehold). I've never known a scouser yet who wasn't 100% for himself first and last! Nuttall wouldn't make any difference to Article 50 being triggered but he would send all the wrong signals to the world about Stoke! The council are spending £175,000 on a City of Culture bid! That's £175,000 down the drain if Nuttall wins! Generalising all scousers is a bad way to make a point. I'm generalising my own personal experience! There's nothing wrong with that! In 61 years, I've never met one yet I would trust! Do you think Nuttall is trustworthy? I don't!
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Post by Rick Grimes on Jan 25, 2017 13:05:40 GMT
Generalising all scousers is a bad way to make a point. I'm generalising my own personal experience! There's nothing wrong with that! In 61 years, I've never met one yet I would trust! Do you think Nuttall is trustworthy? I don't! I don't trust Paul Nuttall but he doesn't represent all scousers does he, even the Liverpool Echo has referred to him as a 'Bad Bootle meff'.
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Post by countofmontecristo on Jan 25, 2017 13:10:12 GMT
Owen Smith has written an article today saying he won't vote to trigger A50. David Lammey is still very much crusading to keep us in. Corbyn will refuse to back a deal that involves us leaving the single market. Did I say I was a fan of Nuttall or did I say I'll be voting to ensure that the democratic will of the British people is enforced? Stoke voted out and Labour don't have a clue. Oh, and not that it's relevant, but what did Mr.Hunt do for SCFC and PVFC? But it is relevant! In my flats, we used to have a big Evertonian who was our Company Sec.(we own the freehold). I've never known a scouser yet who wasn't 100% for himself first and last! Nuttall wouldn't make any difference to Article 50 being triggered but he would send all the wrong signals to the world about Stoke! The council are spending £175,000 on a City of Culture bid! That's £175,000 down the drain if Nuttall wins! Nice piece of casual prejudice there Nick! bigotnoun [ C ] UK /ˈbɪɡ.ət/ US /ˈbɪɡ.ət/ disapproving a person who has strong, unreasonable beliefs and who does not like other people who have different beliefs or a different way of life: "He was known to be a loud-mouthed, opinionated bigot."
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Jan 25, 2017 13:10:29 GMT
I'm generalising my own personal experience! There's nothing wrong with that! In 61 years, I've never met one yet I would trust! Do you think Nuttall is trustworthy? I don't! I absolutely don't trust Paul Nuttall but he doesn't represent all scousers does he. True! SJW, Cilla Black are/were Tories! Nobody has found out yet if Nuttall is either a red bindipper or a blue bindipper? Surely, somebody must know? What are his admirers so frightened of? The truth?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2017 13:11:18 GMT
Generalising all scousers is a bad way to make a point. I'm generalising my own personal experience! There's nothing wrong with that! In 61 years, I've never met one yet I would trust! Do you think Nuttall is trustworthy? I don't! Aren't you the cunt who keeps labelling people racist? What's the difference between you labelling all scousers and someone saying Muslims can never be trusted? and FWIW I'm having a seriously hard time with Nuttall and some of his views and I would consider myself further right than UKIP
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Post by upthefud on Jan 25, 2017 13:15:31 GMT
I absolutely don't trust Paul Nuttall but he doesn't represent all scousers does he. True! SJW, Cilla Black are/were Tories! Nobody has found out yet if Nuttall is either a red bindipper or a blue bindipper? Surely, somebody must know? What are his admirers so frightened of? The truth? Who did Tristram Hunt support mate?
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Jan 25, 2017 13:16:07 GMT
But it is relevant! In my flats, we used to have a big Evertonian who was our Company Sec.(we own the freehold). I've never known a scouser yet who wasn't 100% for himself first and last! Nuttall wouldn't make any difference to Article 50 being triggered but he would send all the wrong signals to the world about Stoke! The council are spending £175,000 on a City of Culture bid! That's £175,000 down the drain if Nuttall wins! Nice piece of casual prejudice there Nick! bigotnoun [ C ] UK /ˈbɪɡ.ət/ US /ˈbɪɡ.ət/ disapproving a person who has strong, unreasonable beliefs and who does not like other people who have different beliefs or a different way of life: "He was known to be a loud-mouthed, opinionated bigot." Well, my Everton Company Secretary gave illegal advice banned by The Law Society to some of my fellow shareholders! When you have a qualified solicitor knowingly breaking his own profession's rules and regulations, fine! But, that's been my experience of our Merseyside friends. If you have had better experiences great but don't pretend these are universal, because they are not!
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Jan 25, 2017 13:19:01 GMT
True! SJW, Cilla Black are/were Tories! Nobody has found out yet if Nuttall is either a red bindipper or a blue bindipper? Surely, somebody must know? What are his admirers so frightened of? The truth? Who did Tristram Hunt support mate? He said he had regular contact with Stoke. Now, please tell me which team Nuttall supports?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 25, 2017 13:26:57 GMT
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Post by countofmontecristo on Jan 25, 2017 13:27:50 GMT
Nice piece of casual prejudice there Nick! bigotnoun [ C ] UK /ˈbɪɡ.ət/ US /ˈbɪɡ.ət/ disapproving a person who has strong, unreasonable beliefs and who does not like other people who have different beliefs or a different way of life: "He was known to be a loud-mouthed, opinionated bigot." Well, my Everton Company Secretary gave illegal advice banned by The Law Society to some of my fellow shareholders! When you have a qualified solicitor knowingly breaking his own profession's rules and regulations, fine! But, that's been my experience of our Merseyside friends. If you have had better experiences great but don't pretend these are universal, because they are not! I'm not the one prejudging/labeling/defaming 1.3 Million people based on my own limited experience. You are.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 25, 2017 13:37:46 GMT
I can categorically state that at no time last Summer was nicholasjalcock ever in the vicinity of any political offices in Liverpool and did not with malice aforethought propel any hardened clay building materials towards the area of an office window or the windows of any adjacent vertical pedestrian thoroughfares.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jan 25, 2017 13:39:24 GMT
Literally everyone I know is voting UKIP and I'll be joining them. Majority ex-labour voters. Taking the stance that leaving the EU is a mistake and calling your core support racists and uneducated bigots simply isn't working for Labour. Strange that... I must have missed them saying that
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jan 25, 2017 13:40:05 GMT
So you're going to vote for the leader of UKIP who is a climate change denier and anti-abortion among other things. I'm voting to ensure my leave vote won't be ignored. Leaving the EU is the single biggest issue in this country and Labour are trying to block it. UKIP will never have the power to implement Nutall's more extreme views. Labour won't and can't block this. Stupid to think so.
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