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Post by Scrotnig on Dec 3, 2016 17:31:49 GMT
Come on, some people owe Walters an apology today. There were people slagging him off actually at the exact moment he scored.
Even I have been critical sometimes, (though not recently) but he is due an apology today from some. So let's hear it please!
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Post by crownmeking on Dec 3, 2016 17:34:10 GMT
Where is your Hughes apology thread?
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Post by Scrotnig on Dec 3, 2016 17:35:19 GMT
Where is your Hughes apology thread? I did my Hughes apology weeks ago actually.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 3, 2016 17:39:11 GMT
He was dog shit.
Took the goal well.
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Post by biglad180 on Dec 3, 2016 17:39:33 GMT
has I said on another tread walters always trys if bony put the same amount of work in he might make a decent striker
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Post by crownmeking on Dec 3, 2016 17:39:38 GMT
Where is your Hughes apology thread? I did my Hughes apology weeks ago actually. In a thread of it's own? I must of missed it. I admit, I much prefer your new positive outlook
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Post by kustokie on Dec 3, 2016 17:40:17 GMT
Great goal. Well done. Oh, BTW that's his job.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 3, 2016 17:40:52 GMT
He was dog shit. Took the goal well. This except he was average and took his goal well.
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Post by kustokie on Dec 3, 2016 17:41:32 GMT
TBF to his SJW's detractors, it was his first goal for Stoke since March. So he was a bit overdue.
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Post by Scrotnig on Dec 3, 2016 17:43:06 GMT
I did my Hughes apology weeks ago actually. In a thread of it's own? I must of missed it. I admit, I much prefer your new positive outlook It was in another thread. Several in fact. Happy to start a new one if people prefer. I don't have a positive attitude, nor a negative one. Just a realistic one. Today is not a day for saying anything bad about the team or manager. I hold them to high standards, which were more than met today.
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Post by elystokie on Dec 3, 2016 17:46:21 GMT
He was dog shit. Took the goal well. This except he was average and took his goal well. I'm not even convinced he intended it as an attempt on goal if I'm honest. He's looked better than usual last couple of games for me, still only average overall tho' imo.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 3, 2016 17:47:18 GMT
Constructive critism is fine but as I said earlier some of the abuse and vitriol directed at some of OUR players on here is shocking. They are doing a job (a high paying one granted) in the main to the best of their ability and to be subjected to some of the crap on here is unacceptable. If they were giving the two fingers to the fans or weren't arsed trying them maybe fair enough but ffs rein in the "hate"
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 3, 2016 17:48:06 GMT
Walters attitude is faultless and the effort he put in is unquestionable and that was an excellent goal he scored today. I do however think we need a better technical striker and one who scores more.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 17:49:58 GMT
Are we going to have to apologise everytime a player has a good game? Even if said player was bad for months prior?
Are we going to turn the board into an "I told you so" event?
Asking for a friend.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 3, 2016 17:50:55 GMT
This except he was average and took his goal well. I'm not even convinced he intended it as an attempt on goal if I'm honest. He's looked better than usual last couple of games for me, still only average overall tho' imo. He did mate, it was a lovely instinctive flick. Other than that he couldn't trap a bag of cement.
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Post by redwhite on Dec 3, 2016 17:52:03 GMT
You know the calibre of player you're dealing with when there's this much excitement from those who have fallen in love with him over the fact that he actually scored a goal, as a striker, against Burnley.
He was good today for the most part, but if he put in average to good performances regularly he'd have no doubters and there'd be no embarrassing threads like this. The fact he's scored a goal in one game doesn't make criticisms of his many, many weak performances void.
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Post by Scrotnig on Dec 3, 2016 17:52:19 GMT
Are we going to have to apologise everytime a player has a good game? Even if said player was bad for months prior? Are we going to turn the board into an "I told you so" event? Asking for a friend. No, but today was just particularly funny.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Dec 3, 2016 17:52:20 GMT
As if any of Super Jon's haters are going to apologise... Or if they do it'll be one of those "Glad he proved me wrong" type posts where they'll then lay into him again next week before a ball has even been kicked!
It's the same for Whelan, the same for Pieters, the same for Hughes... It's the same for pretty much our entire club.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 3, 2016 17:53:20 GMT
This except he was average and took his goal well. I'm not even convinced he intended it as an attempt on goal if I'm honest. He's looked better than usual last couple of games for me, still only average overall tho' imo. I think it's a class finish tbf.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 3, 2016 17:54:42 GMT
Are we going to have to apologise everytime a player has a good game? Even if said player was bad for months prior? Are we going to turn the board into an "I told you so" event? Asking for a friend. These pissing contests are starting to get on my tits. It's perfectly fine to acknowledge how well taken his goal was but we shouldn't be still starting league games with Walters as our main striker. It seems to be a difficult concept for some to grasp that you can acknowledge a good performance but still question a players long term use for the team, did Walters do well today? Yes, Is he what we need up front? No, but every bit of criticism against the guy now will degenerate into a slanging match.
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Post by Scrotnig on Dec 3, 2016 17:59:23 GMT
Are we going to have to apologise everytime a player has a good game? Even if said player was bad for months prior? Are we going to turn the board into an "I told you so" event? Asking for a friend. These pissing contests are starting to get on my tits. It's perfectly fine to acknowledge how well taken his goal was but we shouldn't be still starting league games with Walters as our main striker. It seems to be a difficult concept for some to grasp that you can acknowledge a good performance but still question a players long term use for the team, did Walters do well today? Yes, Is he what we need up front? No, but every bit of criticism against the guy now will degenerate into a slanging match. I think we should pick the best players for the game in question, today Walters clearly was.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 18:08:51 GMT
Some people will never learn.
He was good last week as well.
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 3, 2016 18:09:18 GMT
You know the calibre of player you're dealing with when there's this much excitement from those who have fallen in love with him over the fact that he actually scored a goal, as a striker, against Burnley. He was good today for the most part, but if he put in average to good performances regularly he'd have no doubters and there'd be no embarrassing threads like this. The fact he's scored a goal in one game doesn't make criticisms of his many, many weak performances void. Not bad for a player who cost under 3 million , what did city pay for bony idle £28 million
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 18:11:56 GMT
Haven't logged in for over a year, but I have appropriately lurked. SJW is a Stoke Legend. His contribution to this club has been tremendous. I even have a T-Shirt of his antics for Ireland against Germany. I will not say a bad word about the bloke. But (and this may sound a little contradictory) he is an impact player at best and we realistically should have better options upfront.
And I say this after he scores and we go to ninth. It's both crazy and perhaps a statement of our real potential
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Post by scfcwebby on Dec 3, 2016 18:15:47 GMT
He should not start next week IMO
1 (well taken) goal, will not change my overall opinion of him (as a player)
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Post by xchpotter on Dec 3, 2016 18:19:41 GMT
Walters attitude is faultless and the effort he put in is unquestionable and that was an excellent goal he scored today. I do however think we need a better technical striker and one who scores more. A very accurate and balanced assessment which sums up the position perfectly.
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Post by elystokie on Dec 3, 2016 18:21:15 GMT
I'm not even convinced he intended it as an attempt on goal if I'm honest. He's looked better than usual last couple of games for me, still only average overall tho' imo. He did mate, it was a lovely instinctive flick. Other than that he couldn't trap a bag of cement. I reckon he meant to guide it across the face of goal, if he had form for pulling stunts like that and meaning them I may have had more faith.
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Post by foxysgloves on Dec 3, 2016 18:25:14 GMT
He did mate, it was a lovely instinctive flick. Other than that he couldn't trap a bag of cement. I reckon he meant to guide it across the face of goal, if he had form for pulling stunts like that and meaning them I may have had more faith. Oh FFS! Seriously??!! Words fail......
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Post by Scrotnig on Dec 3, 2016 18:25:40 GMT
He should not start next week IMO 1 (well taken) goal, will not change my overall opinion of him (as a player) I might ordinarily agree with you, however, after today, as stated in the matchday thread, I am leaving all team selection matters to Mr Hughes from now on.
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Post by march4 on Dec 3, 2016 18:29:51 GMT
MoM by a country mile. He destroyed Burnley's highly rated defence with his power, intelligence and aggression.
You have just seen the best display of a lone striker by a Stoke player for years and years.
And as for his goal. If Pele had scored it, the world would have stood still to applaud - one of the best goals ever at the Brit (Bet).
A must to start every single game remaining this season.
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